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Nursery incident. Ofsted?

180 replies

Felly67 · 18/10/2024 18:27

My DD nursery has dress up women’s fancy hats and shoes from charity shops. Today she was injured by hat pin that was left inside one. It was a large pin that secured a decoration on the hat. Would you report this to ofsted?

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Headinthesand21 · 18/10/2024 20:19

I hope your DD is Ok, but honestly, get a grip.
It was an unfortunate and silly oversight, which hopefully the nursery will learn from and check all clothes more carefully in the future.

What do you think OFSTED will do?
You will just look silly and ruin your relationship with the nursery.

MrsSunshine2b · 18/10/2024 20:20

Felly67 · 18/10/2024 18:27

My DD nursery has dress up women’s fancy hats and shoes from charity shops. Today she was injured by hat pin that was left inside one. It was a large pin that secured a decoration on the hat. Would you report this to ofsted?

What do you hope OFSTED will do? Thoroughly search the setting for hatpins? Give them a good telling off? Downgrade their rating to inadequate and close them down?

Silverbook · 18/10/2024 20:23

Glutenfreebread · 18/10/2024 19:39

If a child was injured with a sharp object like that at home and presented to a medical professional I would expect there would be some kind of contact from either a HV and/or SS for a quick follow up to make sure the home environment is safe, don’t see why this would be any different and you could argue that a nursery should actually be safer than a home !

Are you serious? You honestly think that EVERY child presenting to medical professional with a bruise, bump, cut, scratch etc gets a referral for a follow up visit?

Headinthesand21 · 18/10/2024 20:23

Glutenfreebread · 18/10/2024 19:39

If a child was injured with a sharp object like that at home and presented to a medical professional I would expect there would be some kind of contact from either a HV and/or SS for a quick follow up to make sure the home environment is safe, don’t see why this would be any different and you could argue that a nursery should actually be safer than a home !

Don’t be ridiculous.
HVs and SS hardly have time for children on their caseload who are seriously at risk.
This (rightly) wouldn’t even register unless it was part of a pattern of injury or suspected non-accidental.

loulouljh · 18/10/2024 20:25

No! For goodness sake...

Sherrystrull · 18/10/2024 20:26

Scenario 1

Parent and nursery have a productive conversation. Nursery apologises, checks all hats thoroughly and everyone moves on.

Scenario 2

Parent kicks off and contacts Ofsted. All dressing up clothes are removed just in case. All children lose out and staff lose a chunk of enthusiasm needed to spend weekends trawling charity shops for interesting things.

Littlemisscapable · 18/10/2024 20:26

Stop

Pussygaloregalapagos · 18/10/2024 20:29

No

WillowtreeHouse · 18/10/2024 20:29

Of course not.

Lemonadeand · 18/10/2024 20:30

Felly67 · 18/10/2024 19:26

Ok, maybe odsted was over reaction. But they state that they check and risk assess everything but this has been missed and it could have caused a bad injury

I just don’t think it occurred to them to check and risk assess a hat. I’m sure it will in future.

Bellab89 · 18/10/2024 20:33

I can’t believe how many mean, sarcastic people there are on this site. Guys, you can give your advice and opinion without being so patronising. Being behind a screen doesn’t make it ok.

I would be really annoyed by the carelessness and would definitely raise it with management. But if this is a one-off incident and you have no other concerns, I wouldn’t contact ofsted, personally!

DoTheDinosaurStomp · 18/10/2024 20:39

You're joking, surely? They missed a tiny hat pin. Come on.

Avanet · 18/10/2024 20:39

So, the major part of the injury was that "she was upset" at getting pricked/poked.

You need to get a grip mate.
A toddler can get cut, scratched, poked or pricked by many a thing. A zip, a fork, a pencil, a pointy stick, a splinter or even their own razor sharp little finger nails. It doesn't half hurt, even as an adult, if a cracker crumb goes in your eye. Should the nursery ban food that makes sharp crumbs?

OFSTED is going to be really busy if you go there every time your child cries at a sharp sensation.

In response to a PP who asks, "what if the child swallowed the pin" .
A hat pin is four to six inches long. The toddler who can swallow that, is either very determined or has a future as a sword shallower.

sassyduck · 18/10/2024 20:41

No.

Pixiedust49 · 18/10/2024 20:44

Avanet · 18/10/2024 20:39

So, the major part of the injury was that "she was upset" at getting pricked/poked.

You need to get a grip mate.
A toddler can get cut, scratched, poked or pricked by many a thing. A zip, a fork, a pencil, a pointy stick, a splinter or even their own razor sharp little finger nails. It doesn't half hurt, even as an adult, if a cracker crumb goes in your eye. Should the nursery ban food that makes sharp crumbs?

OFSTED is going to be really busy if you go there every time your child cries at a sharp sensation.

In response to a PP who asks, "what if the child swallowed the pin" .
A hat pin is four to six inches long. The toddler who can swallow that, is either very determined or has a future as a sword shallower.

I was just thinking this. So many potentially dangerous things in a nursery…. scissors, planks of wood, Lego bricks. List is endless really …

elliejjtiny · 18/10/2024 20:44

No, accidents happen.

SilverChampagne · 18/10/2024 20:45

Felly67 · 18/10/2024 19:25

It wasn’t just a regular pin. It was a very long and sharp one. It poked her eye annd eyelid and she was very upset. It could have been worse. They said sorry but it makes me wonder are they careless and don’t check their equipment

How did she manage to poke it in her eye?

Ginburee · 18/10/2024 20:45

I am sorry your child was injured but please give your head a wobble.
Most young people who work in nurseries now wouldn't have a clue what a hat pin was, let alone know to look for them.
Please don't waste offsteads time, ypu are going to have a bit of a wake up call when your child goes to school and you can't run to ofstead every time there is an incident.

twomanyfrogsinabox · 18/10/2024 20:46

Felly67 · 18/10/2024 18:29

Well, I would have thought these types of hats would be checked. It hurt her eye as she was wearing it

Hurt her eye how? Has it impacted her vision? Actually damaged her eye? If so you would want compensation for her disability, otherwise not a big deal.

Nataliaa · 18/10/2024 20:48

Contact your MP. And the press.

catin8oots · 18/10/2024 20:48

Sometimes o read these threads and it feels like I'm having an out of body experience because it is so removed from reality

padampada · 18/10/2024 20:49

What's your goal? To put the nursery in special measures and shut it down? Seems a reasonable response...

Pretty certain Ofsted are dealing with actual safeguarding issues this week. A concealed hatpin is regrettable but not really on the same level. Have the nursery apologised and learnt from the incident? Please move on.

McGregor33 · 18/10/2024 20:51

My daughter had an accident in nursery, lost finger tip and nail. A boy was holding the door open and let the door go. Accidents do happen and nursery was completely apologetic.

Headinthesand21 · 18/10/2024 21:02

Felly67 · 18/10/2024 19:25

It wasn’t just a regular pin. It was a very long and sharp one. It poked her eye annd eyelid and she was very upset. It could have been worse. They said sorry but it makes me wonder are they careless and don’t check their equipment

They made a human error, apologized and will hopefully be more careful in future.
If you are worried that they are ‘careless’ then find a new nursery for your DD which you are happy with. I really don’t wish this to be rude, but I suspect that nursery won’t mind.

SofiaAmes · 18/10/2024 21:08

I would be much more concerned about them spreading lice by exchanging hats. My ds' nursery were doing this type of dress up and couldn't figure out why they kept having outbreaks of lice.

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