Anyone else just wish these xl bullies would disappear?

[Mayaamelia]

I know I’m not the only one and don’t think I am being unreasonable tbh but didn’t know where else to post this.

In the past week or so there have been five serious attacks in the UK but what we have plastered all over the news is the police apologising to a deluded xl bully owner, when he’s the one who failed to do as he’s told.
What kind of message does that send?

The other day armed police were called to Stockport because of a dangerous dog and three people were injured. There’s only one little article about it in the Star. When did this ever used to happen in this country? It’s not normal.

I just don’t see why normal, decent people should have to live in fear of these scumbags and their dangerous dogs. Nothing is being done, how can something be banned if there are exemptions?
When the dogs do attack, the owners get months in prison which is the equivalent to a slap on the wrist.

It’s like being in possession of something worse than a loaded gun or a lion. Nobody’s allowed pepper spray though - you can get 4 years in prison just for carrying it apparently.
If they at least increased the jail time maybe that would deter people from owning these dangerous dogs.

My angry designer pets are ginger and white cats

FWIW I have sat in many cafes and walked around many towns, cities and villages and never once felt in fear of dogs attacking

This idea of getting rid of the breed of dog that attacks the most would just result in getting rid of every breed of dog

Because at some point every dog breed would be at the top of the list

Cows kill on average 4-5 people per year

Let’s cull all cows. No more beef or milk or cheddar. But a small price to pay surely for those 4-5 human lives.

But the thing is, you don't seem to grasp the fact that the reason you and your son are still alive after being attacked by the spaniel and the shitzu are because they arent anywhere near as powerful as an xl bully.

I can garuntee if your xl bully attacks you or your son you will end up worse off.

Your posts are all complete nonsense. Genuinely, every single one.

@ZippyLimeSnake yes you’ve had a lot of responses but think this one through

You are not being realistic about the power of the breed and the fatal harm it can do, and how powerless you would be. Or your dc if you have them

Haven't read the full thread so not sure if it's been mentioned already but it's XL bullys specifically that have a genetic predisposition to 'switch' and attack without any of the usual warning signs (growling, snapping etc). Very different to most breeds where handler/environmental issues are more likely to fuel violent behaviour. Something to do with a significant majority being bred from the lines of sire Killer Kimbo - info was linked on another thread about dog attacks, I think it was this website bullywatch.link/2023/08/01/finding-kimbo/comment-page-1/

Love dogs but these are disproportionately vicious. They should be rounded up and put to sleep. No iff and buts. Any dog from the same line also put down. Eventually people will stop breeding them

@Yalta Interesting logic.

How many families do you know that selectively breed aggressive killer cows, keep them at home in densely-populated areas and walk them in the park?

I appreciate your polite replies.

Do stories like this not scare you? Loved dogs suddenly killing their owners?

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/woman-mauled-to-death-posted-video-of-her-dancing-with-xl-bully-to-song-saying-i-dont-give-a-f-about-the-breed-being-banned-13148665

Imagjne what your dog could do to your three year old, even with you in the room? I don’t understand how you are not worried at all?

You will recognise an XL Bully if you see one. They’re huge and muscly.

I'm not a fan of xls, whatsoever, ugly brutes, but I see plenty about out walking my dog, usually unmuzzled. I cross over and go different ways. My dog doesn't like them either and will react. It's obviously a body language thing. Usually, the owners stand out a mile, one that I do know, has done frequent prison sentences for violence. I avoid.
I agree with licensing, compulsory training, insurance, and lead restrictions. I hire a field regularly so she can run off lead.
I spend a small fortune on weekly classes, so my dog is trained in a 'job', purely as enrichment, but she could use the skills if required.( similar to rescue dog/ police dogs) She is a large crossbreed ( no bully breeds!) We adopted her as a puppy, now 6 years old, but we still have classes weekly and I will do until she's too elderly.

What utter drivel

I was on a large, chunky pony and felt very much in danger. It didn't stop until my pony stopped giving warnings and kicked the dog hard. There is no way any unarmed human could stop an attack.

Years ago my dog was attacked by a pitbull and my dad - who worked as a builder and was very physically strong and tall - could not stop the dog. Being graphic here but the dog didn't stop until he smashed the dog's skull in with a sledgehammer and it died. My dog - a large crossbreed - had such extensive injuries that he lost a leg. And that was a pitbull who was half the size of the monsters today.

Also, having grown up in the country and around cattle, I'd take a herd of them over a XL bully any day. Cows are predictable at least.

But XL bullies are bred to fight. It's in their dna. Look how many can be traced back to "killer kimbo". It's in breeding at its worst.

@Yalta your posts are so unbelievably stupid it would be funny if it weren't such a scary subject.

Are you really comparing a cat or a cow to an XL bully? A complete powerhouse of muscle and aggression that lives domestically and are subjected to people in public places everyday? Do you genuinely not realise how idiotic that is?

I’m a dog owner and dog lover.
It will be a cold day in hell before I’d ever allow my children to even knock on the door of someone who owned an XL bully. I wouldn’t allow them to visit the houses of their friends where there are guns or used needles or XL bullies. Those dogs are dangerous. I am surprised children’s services haven’t taken a harder line on those killing machines sitting on the sofa with small children but they’re swamped with everything else so this must have to go on the back burner.

@ZippyLimeSnake

Disagree RE the article I posted . She thought they were soft enough to "dance with" there's footage of her doing so, and THEN they turned so ferociously they ripped her arm out of the socket. It's outsiders who've called them extremely aggressive after the fact, she thought they were big softies who would never hurt her. She called them her babies.

Reading that list of fatal attacks at the end of the article is just horrifying.

They all need to be PTS.

I was once walking someone else's alsation and I wasn't used to it and he pulled out his retractable long lead and I couldn't rein him in and he jumped up (happily) at this elderly lady and I felt so terrible. I realised later on another walk when he lunged forward too fast that he is really much stronger than me and it was just good behaviour that kept him on his lead on those walks

Exactly. You may as well say "my dog hasn't attacked or killed anyone...yet" 🤦‍♂️

You are incredibly rude. It is possible to commincate with class to get your point across rather than attacking someone who clearly loves their dog.

The thing that blows my mind about people who have children and these dogs is that most of us spend our lives trying to avoid taking risks with our children. Accepting that while we can’t eliminate all risk, we can do our very best to keep them as safe as possible and not take silly chances with their safety.

So the idea of willingly bringing a huge and unnecessary risk into the house is crackers! The owners must surely know there is some risk - even if they are ignorant to the full extent - so I don’t know why you’d ever happily increase the odds of something terrible happening to your children. It is just absolutely insane.

@ZippyLimeSnake happy you're a good owner.
You see the argument that's it's bad owners not bad dogs.
We have a police and military dog trainer in the family , any dog can go at anytime.
That is the problem.

And with an XL bully it would be impossible to get it off a person as you may be able to do with a smaller breed.

She's not being rude at all, pointing out what 99% of posters (and the general public) think

It always scares me when I see powerful dogs on retractable leads. I have a GSD, but he's walked on collar, halti, and harness, with a two point lead and a belt, so three points of contact. They're strong dogs and retractable leads just aren't suitable for them or any other big breed!