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My sister’s husband has made her ill

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Setroinh · 11/10/2024 20:09

My lovely sister has been extremely destroyed by her pathetic husband. He’s completely vanished. Six weeks ago he sent her an email telling her he “couldn’t do it anymore”. BIL was working in Stockholm, we obviously speculate he has met someone. Completely left sister in the lurch - school fees, bills etc. Sister helped with the business admin but BIL did the actual work (she is not trained to do). She has cried, stopped eating, had panics attacks, contemplated suicide. It’s been horrendous.

My immediate family are supportig sister - our non-mum sister moved in to help with the three young kids, my mum’s cooked meals, my dad has done the food shop etc. My brother and SIL have taken the dogs and hamster.

She is on sertraline. She’s still a shell. She can do basically one activity a day ie the school run but then spends hours and hours in bed sleeping. She looks 20 years older.

I’ve suggested the cinema, spa day, dog walks. You name it. I just am at a loss. How can I help her? Brother is helping sister with business side of things. Is it an only time will heal thing? She’s so bad I can’t see her getting over this.

Any advice would be great. I’ve lost weight from seeing her like this. As I type my stomach is in knots. I’m just scared for her (don’t tell her this obviously). As she won’t be able to live off savings forever.

OP posts:
Nothanks17 · 12/10/2024 06:47

It sounds like she has a wonderful family around her. Keep doing what you are doing and when the tine is right, try get her to be angry.

Being angry will help (and her family) to get everything in order for a divorce and get her finances sorted.

You sound like a lovely sister and you are doing a great job being supportive through what is probably the worse moment of your sisters life.

OverthinkingOlive · 12/10/2024 06:47

LunaMay · 12/10/2024 06:35

Yep, start pulling back. She's very lucky you've all provided space for her to wallow a bit but she's got responsibilities to her children and needs to think of them and start making plans.

I'm not downplaying how awful this must be for her but i think the support has been extreme (you took the pets? 1 activity a day??) and wont be helpful in the long run. Support from the sidelines but help her find a new normal where she is participating in her childrens lives and their healing.

I have to agree with this. Most of us have been through extreme heartbreak and it's gut wrenchingly sickening, but after six weeks and children to take care of it's time to start kicking. I'm not saying get over it and move on but she needs to start trying to gain some strength. I wouldn't wish a broken heart on my worst enemy. What a bastard.

kkloo · 12/10/2024 06:48

Carabelliana · 12/10/2024 06:24

This is very sad and a terrible shock for your poor sister & distressing for the children, but I agree with the comments that she needs to get on with things now. Six weeks is a long time, even longer in the poor children's eyes.

He has behaved awfully, men often do when they have young children, it's unforgivable.

Why have the dogs & hamster been taken from the home? Pets provide normality to a home, it's very difficult to be depressed when you have a demanding animal around. This would surely be upsetting for the children too, losing their pets. You all need to be pragmatic & practical. Tell her she needs to get up & plan for the children's future, assuming now that he's not coming back.

Doesn't she work? Many mothers work & this provides a focus & reason to carry on.
You say she's crying about the house & schools but she should be worrying about the impact this is having on the children & finding some resilience for them.

You say she won't be able to live off savings forever, no, she'll have to get a job & change things to support the children like millions of abandoned mothers do. Downsize, get a lodger, whatever.

The husband will undoubtedly reappear at some point. I would be over there looking for him to find out the truth behind his behaviour & to confront him about the future so she knows where she is & what to do next.

She should be cooking, doing all the normal things etc which will help her. Wallowing in bed for hours every day is ridiculous when you have three young children, normality is essential, she's making it worse for the poor children.
Don't get me wrong, it's a horrible shock, but reading between the lines he may have left her because:

a)She doesn't work & contribute to the household & he's tired of being the main breadwinner
b) she has zero resilience & is too dependent on him & he's met a strong, independent woman (possibly a single mother) & has made unfavourable comparisons, possibly fallen for her

There's no mention in your post about the relationship being good to begin with or any happy family times.

I feel there's more to this story. You say she can do one activity a day. This is because you're letting her do one activity a day. This enormous safety net isn't helping, not are the medications.

So she can access an Apple account, have a consultation with a lawyer, but not cook for her children or walk the dogs? People are surviving wars & atrocities in the world far worse than this right at this moment & surviving. Was she quite a weak person before all this? Did she have a good friendship network, activities/playdates for the kids etc? You don't say how old they are except that they are young, but they need both a semblance of normality & distractions right now.

The human spirit is strong when it needs to be & she needs to toughen up for her children, they are the priority here, seeing their mother completely fall apart is the worst thing she can do.

Have you thought about a career helping people with mental health issues? 😃

With your empathy levels and no nonsense advice everyone would be back to normal in no time at all 😃

Mummyoflittledragon · 12/10/2024 06:58

I definitely think it is important to get a mental health assessment for your sister. It does sound as if she may be having some kind of a breakdown or at the very least an extreme reaction. Idk if she would be as bad if you weren’t around to pick up the pieces. Sometimes helplessness is learned and if your sister has always been looked after in this way when things in the past go wrong she either hasn’t learned resilience (eg is immature) or for some reason is unable to be resilient. The two being completely different imo even if right now they appear similar.

I also agree with posters, who say this is the same as a bereavement. It is a sudden death of sorts and therefore an unexpected and brutal bereavement. It is of course very different from a death, however, in some ways it is worse and in some ways not. He chose not to be with them all rather than having no option, which may have a more compounding effect.

My father died after a very short illness when I was a teen. It was very difficult and brutal. My mother was there physically but not emotionally in any shape or form. No one was there actually and you’re doing an amazing thing stepping in for both parents. However, I cannot emphasise enough how much they need their mum right now. Apart from one teacher once, I was never given so much as a hug after my dad died and this has had lifelong effects.

They are also losing their school and therefore their friends. This is such a disastrous situation for them and they really do need their mum. Right now they are likely so confused and your 5 yo niece appears to be copying her reaction. If anything the children are coping better by the sound of it.

I would also be aware of what is known as parentification. This is where the child attempts to look after the parent’s needs. It can be physically helping. As you are doing everything, I would be concerned with the children thrust in a position of emotionally supporting their mum.

Lastly, your bil hasn’t made your dsis ill. She has control over her reactions to a situation. The situation has made her ill. Saying he has made her ill is giving her permission to fall to pieces, which is why the mental health assessment you are seeking it’s important right now.

Errors · 12/10/2024 06:58

This broke my heart and I don’t even know you. Your poor sister, her poor kids and I have every sympathy for you and the rest of your family. This must be awful for you to witness.

I would say she is having a normal response to an abnormal situation. Is she definitely taking her medication every single day? It can take a while to kick in - my understanding is that they put you on a small dose for a couple of weeks and then increase and you will notice the difference after about three months. It can’t hurt for her to speak to the GP again though.
The time between now and the medication giving her a little boost is critical- sounds like you are doing all the right things but she just needs time. She is in shock and lying around and resting all day is probably not a bad thing. She needs to recover. Hopefully, once the medication kicks in it will give her enough of a boost to take some action. Therapy, for example. Or a bit of self care

Carabelliana · 12/10/2024 07:05

kkloo

There's no such thing as normal. But it's the mundane tasks, routine & desire to survive that provides strength & new hope. Look at what atrocities people are coping with around the world to ensure their children survive. I do have sympathy at this situation but she's not putting her children above her own feelings.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 12/10/2024 07:06

She sounds very ill indeed. It will take a while to sort things for her.

Wigglytails · 12/10/2024 07:07

your poor sister and what disgusting behaviour from her husband. You and your family sound like very kind considerate and caring people. She is incredibly blessed to have you all so close emotionally and physically.

BUT she needs to get her big girl pants on now/ her young children need her to find her inner strength (which I hope is there by the sheer fact she is a mother) and get a plan for how she will move forward.

lawyer up - to get the best financial outcome from him as possible.
Get a therapist to isolate the time she can “fall apart” in a therapy room / get it out by talking.
reflect on why the marriage is broken - no one happy just walks out on a solid happy home. It’s okay to say that and not wrongly make her feel like it was all rosy and he just woke up one morning with a desire to abandon their family.
move forward and make the piece of $hit regret his actions every day for the rest of his life. new haircut, new look and new future

ask her straight if she wants to let this beat her and he wins or if she wants to come out of it even stronger more resilient and a woman her children look up to in adulthood

coach her to never touch a similar type of man in future and let her know in a month she won’t feel as she does today, in a year she will look back in amazement at her strength & in 10 years she will feel like she has dodged a bullet by not having husband in her life.

I hope she can get her head and body into a place she can function and then thrive. 💐

Errors · 12/10/2024 07:07

kkloo · 12/10/2024 06:48

Have you thought about a career helping people with mental health issues? 😃

With your empathy levels and no nonsense advice everyone would be back to normal in no time at all 😃

Not sure if you’re being sarcastic or not but the poster you quoted isn’t a million miles off.

FeetupTvon · 12/10/2024 07:16

If this is totally out of character for him you need to call the police.
An email to family is a well known way of communicating by someone who may have caused harm to the victim.
Personally I would at the very least report him as a missing person.

Icequeen01 · 12/10/2024 07:17

Does he have a Swedish passport or a visa to work in Sweden? If not, he will presumably have to return to the UK soon (assuming your DSis lives in the UK?

Rosscameasdoody · 12/10/2024 07:30

Sparklfairy · 11/10/2024 20:34

Not making excuses but could her husband be depressed?

Who gives a fuck.

The family should. Because if that is the case, he’s going to come slithering back at some point begging for forgiveness. And it sounds very much as though if that happened in the near future he’d worm his sorry arse back in.

LoveTheRainAndSun · 12/10/2024 07:33

readysteadynono · 12/10/2024 06:23

You’re really wrong. Psychologically it’s as traumatic as a death. This is a cataclysmic event in her life that has removed all her sense of who she is, who her family is, what her future looks like. I doubt tough love would do anything other than push her to a sucide attempt.

I wonder if something like this is harder than a death, in a way. If he was dead through an accident, at least she'd know where she stands and could process more readily. Someone being dead is so final, you know what you're dealing with, you know what needs to be done and that there is only one way forward. The not knowing is more like having a missing person and no answers. The uncertainty and not knowing could be so much harder.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 12/10/2024 07:33

She’s probably grieving not only him but their lives. It sounds like things will have to change like schools, home unless she can get legal help to claim money from him.

He is one of the biggest pricks I’ve ever heard about on here. How he can just not contact his children? Does his mother know the little girl is vomiting herself sick with crying? She needs to. If I was his mother I’d go and drag him back from Stockholm to face his responsibilities or he’d never see me again.

I hope she gets out of the hole soon. Try and make her see he’s not worth ruining her life.

Rosscameasdoody · 12/10/2024 07:33

Quaver9 · 11/10/2024 23:58

Feel free to put forward your suggestion for further intervention but you’re replying directly to me who is not disputing that.

I’m disputing the insinuations that her response is not normal, 6 weeks is a long time and she should be ‘better by now’ or that the support should be withdrawn.

Here’s some examples for you (there’s many more)

6 weeks is long enough to get over the initial shock.

I think it’s great that you are all so supportive but you are enabling her behaviour.

It’s time to start backing off

As harsh as it seems six weeks on she perhaps needs some tough love.

I think you’re doing too much.

She needs to be better. 6 weeks is a really long time.

6 weeks is long enough to get to a point where self preservation ought to take over.

she kind of needs a big of taking in hand and told to get on with things

There's a thing called learned helplessness.

I realize she is suffering from bereavement but many of us have been bereaved and back at work the following week.

I don’t know anyone who has been bereaved of a life partner and been back at work the following week.

Rosscameasdoody · 12/10/2024 07:35

LoveTheRainAndSun · 12/10/2024 07:33

I wonder if something like this is harder than a death, in a way. If he was dead through an accident, at least she'd know where she stands and could process more readily. Someone being dead is so final, you know what you're dealing with, you know what needs to be done and that there is only one way forward. The not knowing is more like having a missing person and no answers. The uncertainty and not knowing could be so much harder.

I agree. I think it’s harder in the sense that as well as processing the grief you feel at the end of your life as you know it, you have a sense of rejection by your partner because they have left voluntarily.

fastforwardplay · 12/10/2024 07:38

She sounds like she's had a complete breakdown. Please ask the GP to visit her if she won't go to the doctor herself l. Please be there with her because she's unlikely to be able to describe her current condition or will give a misleading statement. She's needs urgent professional medical help - she won't be able to get better by herself.
And big credit to her wonderful family (you guys) for the support and intervention

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 12/10/2024 07:39

Rosscameasdoody · 12/10/2024 07:35

I agree. I think it’s harder in the sense that as well as processing the grief you feel at the end of your life as you know it, you have a sense of rejection by your partner because they have left voluntarily.

And at least if he’d died, she wouldn’t have all the financial turmoil/worry about what to do… assuming they had life insurance etc.

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 12/10/2024 07:40

hettie · 11/10/2024 21:39

Gently, your sister is reacting entirely normally to a very abnormal event. Unless this has tipped her into a mental health crisis she doesn't need a psychiatrist, you can't medicate your bway out or profound loss, trauma and grief. I'm slightly dismayed she's been given sertraline tbh. The physical manifestation of trauma and loss are what your seeing. Not sleeping, no appetite, very tearful, struggling to carry out normal daily activities it's all 'normal'. She needs your support and help with daily tasks, she needs you to reassure her that her feelings and actions are understandable and she needs time..... It's brutal. Of course it goes without saying that her ex is a total and utter grade a shit. Marriages end, people have affairs, but to walk out on your wife and kids without any communication or thought is despicable. I hope the lawyer is a grade A bulldog who ensured your diss gets a decent settlement and I hope the ex is dumped by the new squeeze

All of this.

You can't medicate your way out of life's unexpected albeit traumatic events.
The shock will subside naturally, humans are built and designed to deal with these things without the use of drugs. She is not ill just experiencing a trauma.
It's obviously horrible for her and the children but with your help she will pull through this and come out the tunnel the other side.

BrownBirdsFly · 12/10/2024 07:44

I would urge you to look at the book ‘runaway husbands’ and the website that accompanies it.

Written by a woman who went through the same thing and containing the stories of many others. It will help her and you all feel much less alone and provide much needed hope.

I echo what other posters have said that this is worse than death. If someone dies they’re gone but you’re not faced with your whole past that you knew being destroyed and being totally betrayed by the one person you probably trusted most in the world. It is a loss of the past as well as the present and future.

It is a different level of trauma.

I did get up and go to work but I lost two stone, I contemplated suicide. I didn’t have a very supportive family and without my friendship group and a new partner I’m not sure I’d be here.

I would advise her to read the book. To feel less alone. To see the stages she will go through. To get her outside each day and most of all to provide her with hope. One day she will feel happy again. Most likely she will realise lots of things weren’t what she thought and he wasn’t the man she thought.

sending lots of love for the journey.

Rosscameasdoody · 12/10/2024 07:44

Thevelvelletes · 11/10/2024 20:56

Bloody hell sertraline won't touch the side's of such a traumatic event.
She will need all the support family and friends can provide, emotional and practical.

My DH takes Sertraline to help with bipolar disorder, and it’s very effective. She’s only been on it six weeks - in some people it takes longer to work, it just needs time. Not saying that family support isn’t the most important thing, but this is similar to a bereavement, and many people need support in the form of this kind of drug. And taking her off it now will cause more harm than good, because she’ll have withdrawal symptoms to cope with on top of everything else.

Rosscameasdoody · 12/10/2024 07:46

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 12/10/2024 07:40

All of this.

You can't medicate your way out of life's unexpected albeit traumatic events.
The shock will subside naturally, humans are built and designed to deal with these things without the use of drugs. She is not ill just experiencing a trauma.
It's obviously horrible for her and the children but with your help she will pull through this and come out the tunnel the other side.

A bit of chemical help is no bad thing if she’s this distressed. It doesn’t need to be long term - just to get her over the worst bits until she’s ready to face things. Sertraline is a very effective drug, it just takes time to work. And taking her off it six weeks into treatment is likely to make things worse, not better. The withdrawal symptoms aren’t very nice either.

LoveTheRainAndSun · 12/10/2024 08:00

Medication won't help fix things but it can take the edge off while going through the trauma. It's a tool, not the be all and end all.

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 12/10/2024 08:01

I know, this is the problem is the withdrawals.
I personally don't think she should have been put on them in the first place because it is a situational depression not clinical. This is how drug companies get so many people dependant for life because they become addicted and struggle to withdraw. As I said I'm not talking about true, clinical depression or mood disorders.
All it will do in her case is mask the emotions which is natural to go through then once she comes off it will all come back and she could relapse.
I know in the scheme of things 6 weeks isn't a long time, but as a mother her sense of protection should have overridden anything else she is feeling by now.
I think she needs to get off those meds they're probably making her feel worse. Unpopular opinion I know. There was a mother in my area who had post natal depression, she went on anti depressants and 4 weeks later jumped off a motorway bridge. It was awful and right before Christmas as well.

Errors · 12/10/2024 08:05

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 12/10/2024 08:01

I know, this is the problem is the withdrawals.
I personally don't think she should have been put on them in the first place because it is a situational depression not clinical. This is how drug companies get so many people dependant for life because they become addicted and struggle to withdraw. As I said I'm not talking about true, clinical depression or mood disorders.
All it will do in her case is mask the emotions which is natural to go through then once she comes off it will all come back and she could relapse.
I know in the scheme of things 6 weeks isn't a long time, but as a mother her sense of protection should have overridden anything else she is feeling by now.
I think she needs to get off those meds they're probably making her feel worse. Unpopular opinion I know. There was a mother in my area who had post natal depression, she went on anti depressants and 4 weeks later jumped off a motorway bridge. It was awful and right before Christmas as well.

I don’t think that’s great advice. As someone else said, now she is on them, coming straight back off then is likely to make her feel even worse. Or if she is taking them erratically. I appreciate that situational depression isn’t the same as clinical depression.
I took sertraline for a while after my marriage broke down (nowhere near as traumatic as what the OP’s sister is going through but he was abusive and I had a small child and had to move out etc)
I personally think I used it correctly. It gave me enough of a boost to be an effective mother, to carry on working and to move home and I came off it 6 months later and haven’t been back on it since.