To think that gay and lesbian people should be able to have a conference in peace

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Transactivists have tried to disrupt the LGBA conference by releasing insects into the venue. It's disgusting . Because they don't think gay men and lesbians should be allowed to meet peacefully without them.

No one is stopping transpeople from having events by themselves, why shouldn't gay men and lesbians be able to meet if that's what they want to do? It's just repackaged homophobia - same sex attracted people aren't allowed to have their own conference.

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I deliberately used the example of someone who would have sex with men or women. Those people still find certain personality traits unattractive, including someone's beliefs, be that in a deity/ that there is no deity, that football is a great game, that Liz Truss was a great but misunderstood prime minister or that gender is more important than sex.

So more than half selected a person whose gender was congruent with their sexual orientation, regardless of that persons natal sex.

Of the minority of people of all sexual orientations in the study who were open to dating a trans person, yes. Not the majority who did not want to.

Lets be clear. Most people didn't.

So you agree it's not transphobic for a gay man to not be attracted to trans men, it would just be rude for them to say to their face that it's because they're a woman?

I can’t believe we live in a day and age where gender is being debated…. Two genders X + Y
I suspect there are more level headed lesbian and gay people that know this and therefor don’t want to acknowledge nor add the extra letters to their “LBG” name, or invite the “TQwhateverthefuxkelse” to their conference because they know that these people are not ok in the head

I’ll get the popcorn out 🙈😜

The overwhelming majority of gay people manage this- quite the opposite- they are their greatest support and allies

It doesn't actually extend to sexual attraction to them though, according to the research.

Im not asking for any of that to be different, not at all . Im perfectly comfortable with all of that.

The only people trying to police and define other people’s sexuality are people like you who are claiming it’s impossible for lesbians or straight men to like trans women, despite the fact that many do 🤷🏼‍♀️.well I'm afraid the world isn't going to magically rearrange itself around your wishes, and believing it might won't lead to happiness for you.

lesbians or straight men to like trans women, despite the fact that many do

I think the numbers in the study were about 2% of straight men and 9% of lesbians who are happy to date MTF trans people so "many" is arguable.

As you would expect from their sexual orientation of being attracted only to female people.

I bet my bottom dollar that in general gay people are much more willing to date trans people than straight people.

Transphobia is prevalent and deeply ingrained , but in general gay people are less transphobic and better allies to trans people than straight people.

People can be attracted to whoever they're attracted to. Words have meanings, and while you may decide a word now has a new meaning, you can't enforce this on everyone else. Like I said, this is not going to lead to happiness for you. You're not the centre of the universe to anyone except yourself.

I bet my bottom dollar that in general gay people are much more willing to date trans people than straight people.

Your bottom dollar assertion is great, but doesn't really cut the mustard in terms of data I'm afraid.

How many lesbians are there in the uk (presuming these figures are uk specific ? ) What is 9% of those. I’d definitely call that “many”.
Interesting that more lesbians are willing to date MtF frans people than gay men. How would you explain that?

How many lesbians are there in the uk (presuming these figures are uk specific ? ) What is 9% of those. I’d definitely call that “many”.

It's an American study

So you reckon research would show that more straight people date trans people , than gay people?

Highly doubtful.

Do have a source for that? It's a bit wotireckon.

Ok, so what is 9% of lesbians in the US. That’s a lot of people.

But you are the one telling 9% of American lesbians they are not lesbians… ?

Interesting that more lesbians are willing to date MtF frans people than gay men. How would you explain that?

I don't know, it is an interesting question I agree. More research definitely needed.

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Lesbians aren't attracted to men, however they choose to dress. A woman attracted to a man is not a lesbian. That doesn't mean there is anything wrong with a woman being attracted to a trans woman, and no doubt many women are, but the ones who are, are not lesbians.

I don't know how to put it any more simply for you.

No I fully comprehend your claim.

I’m just astounded at the arrogance (and hypocrisy) involved in you telling a whole bunch of lesbians that they are not lesbians.

And then telling me I am the one centering my own perspective here,

Astonishing feats of illogic.

Regarding more lesbians saying they would be willing to date an Mtf transgender person than gay men, it's impossible to say without more research, but my guess would be that it stems from women tending to have been socialised into putting the needs of others before their own. What I'm beginning to think of as "toxic femininity".

Pansexual people, they are interested in anyone that they find attractive. Do keep up.

@PiggleToes The word lesbian has a meaning.

This is really getting very tiresome and childish, and I have to work in the morning, so I'll leave you to your Alice in Wonderland world where words mean whatever you choose them to mean.

Good luck with life, you're going to need it.

Now we can define our own sexuality as feels most authentic to us, I'm happy to tell you all I'm a lesbian.

I'm attracted to and have sex with only biological males (those ones who agree they are male, although I don't mind if they have long hair or wear a bit of nail polish or whatever).

However, it's my sexuality to define, and I look good in dungarees and have always rather fancied living in Hebden Bridge.

I'll look forward to receiving my lesbian card in the post.

Also, I'm now vegan (the meat eating kind).