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Not to help catch a stray/escaped dog! Now it’s my fault it’s been injured apparently!

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notmyproblems · 10/10/2024 12:32

Someone’s dog keeps escaping and for some reason it kept making its way into my garden. It had been dodging cars apparently and being a nuisance. Regularly have people knocking asking is it mine.

Two weeks ago someone saw it run into my garden and they were banging on the door . I answered (I was WFH and busy) and they were demanding to be allowed into the garden to keep hold of the dog till the warden could get there. I said no. Wait till it goes back out again (I didn’t want someone I don’t know in my house / garden) then catch it and secure it .

Ive since got the gap fixed and the dog can’t get in anymore. Haven’t seen it

Had a knock on the door today (same person) saying the dog had been hit by a car and they’d had to take it to a vet and how it all could have been avoided had I allowed them access and they hoped I was happy with having it on my conscience. So i just closed the door as they were still talking which made them shout and bang on the door???

Im not the irresponsible dog owner so it’s not my fault !

OP posts:
Hunnymonster1 · 10/10/2024 14:07

thoonerismspread · 10/10/2024 12:35

YABU. Owner at fault as pp says however that dog was in a vulnerable position and you could have helped and chose not to.

Spot on fancy nit allowing someone in back garden to get dog i mean why not it's very strange. Sure she's not dog. Owner but seriously

MilesOfCarpetTiles · 10/10/2024 14:07

It does, however, mean a chance to stop the dog getting hurt was missed. That's just a fact.

As does the fact the man didn't wait for the dog. Yet he was the one banging on OP's door and shouting at her.

As does the fact the owners didn't look after the dog even when this had happened repeatedly.

OrdsallChord · 10/10/2024 14:08

Bluenoodles · 10/10/2024 14:06

Jeezus. Do you struggle with comprehension. Go back and read my comments and see if you can manage to piece them together. Maybe get a safe adult to help you.

None of your comments explain where the OP said she'd seen the dog. You've just assumed, and now you're trying to move the goalposts to say she could've checked. Nobody said she couldn't. That's not why you're wrong.

DoIWantTo · 10/10/2024 14:08

Why does it matter what any of us thought after the fact? You took the attitude of not your circus, not your monkeys, not on you to help; as you are allowed to do. Doesn’t really matter what any of us think you should have done, you’ve already done it so the point is moot.

listsandbudgets · 10/10/2024 14:08

HoppingPavlova · 10/10/2024 14:03

Honestly, it likely would have taken you less time to duck out to garden, grab dog, shove it out front door to person and tell them it was their problem to look after it somewhere else till the warden got there.

Edited to add in case not clear, I’m not saying let the person into your house. Tell them you’ll just be a minute. Shut the front door. Duck out back door, grab dog, open front door and shove dog onto them. Shut door.

Edited

Actually while I criticise the OP for not letting someone else in to catch the dog I would not recommend this at all. If OP not used to dogs or dog turned out to be aggressive - slightly more likely it it was frightend then it could have turned out quite badly for her. The person at the door clearly felt confident to deal with a dog we don't know that OP would have been

BarrioQueen · 10/10/2024 14:10

You could have kept the dog safe yourself. Poor innocent animal. You didnt need to let a random person in but you could have kept it safe.

Hunnymonster1 · 10/10/2024 14:11

listsandbudgets · 10/10/2024 14:08

Actually while I criticise the OP for not letting someone else in to catch the dog I would not recommend this at all. If OP not used to dogs or dog turned out to be aggressive - slightly more likely it it was frightend then it could have turned out quite badly for her. The person at the door clearly felt confident to deal with a dog we don't know that OP would have been

Fine then allow someone in back garden what is the big deal here. Why are folks nowadays so unhelpful maybe it's cos I am a northerner but I hear all stories I listened to a podcast yesterday where a man was about to jump in front of train and no one tries to help and ignored him like wtf

GabriellaMontez · 10/10/2024 14:11

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 10/10/2024 14:00

The ultimate blame is with the owners but I'd definitely have let someone stay in the garden, I don't see what skin off your nose that would have been. Stranger and strange dog in the actual house, no obviously, but what's the harm of giving someone access to your garden for a bit?

He has to come through the house to get to the garden. OPs second post.

Still happy with this?

Then wait.
Then back through.

MaryEllenWaldron · 10/10/2024 14:12

Paperchase100 · 10/10/2024 12:49

I’d be the same. I wouldn’t want a strange man (or woman) in my garden for 2 hours with a dog that’s not mine, especially being at home and I have young DC.

Unless she's scared of dogs, she could have simply gone to get it herself and brought it through the house for the person-trying-to-help to take with him. I've done this when finding a dog in my back garden. Presumably the dog had a collar so an improvised lead can be attached - I used a bathrobe belt. I wouldn't want her as a neighbour.

OrdsallChord · 10/10/2024 14:12

Hunnymonster1 · 10/10/2024 14:11

Fine then allow someone in back garden what is the big deal here. Why are folks nowadays so unhelpful maybe it's cos I am a northerner but I hear all stories I listened to a podcast yesterday where a man was about to jump in front of train and no one tries to help and ignored him like wtf

I'm northern and I think it's batshit to expect women to let random men onto their properties because those random men claim to be looking for a dog. So it's not that.

Poisoningpigeons · 10/10/2024 14:12

Still don't get why the dog's unfortunate injury is any more the fault of the OP for not letting a man sit in her garden two weeks ago, than it is the fault of the man for not being willing to wait by the gap in the fence at that time. If he was so terribly concerned for the dog, why didn't he care enough to wait by the fence?

And anyway, what do either of those scenarios have to do with something that happened two weeks later?

diddl · 10/10/2024 14:12

Op do you know why the bloke didn't want to catch the dog?

NamelessNancy · 10/10/2024 14:13

BarrioQueen · 10/10/2024 14:10

You could have kept the dog safe yourself. Poor innocent animal. You didnt need to let a random person in but you could have kept it safe.

How? By going into her garden to catch it? With one of the many slip leads she no doubt keeps handy for this very purpose? Besides which the dog would almost certainly just headed back the way it came. If Random Man really wanted to catch it or keep it safe his best bet was waiting at the gap until either the dog came out or the dog warden arrived.

Bluenoodles · 10/10/2024 14:13

OrdsallChord · 10/10/2024 14:08

None of your comments explain where the OP said she'd seen the dog. You've just assumed, and now you're trying to move the goalposts to say she could've checked. Nobody said she couldn't. That's not why you're wrong.

I haven't assumed anything.
I have said she can check the garden, use her own eyes and see for herself.
Fuck sake. Don't bother responding if you cannot do basic comprehension.

Gretagarbaled · 10/10/2024 14:13

Owner should be prosecuted for having a dog out of control. If it was hit by a car then it was on the road where it could have caused fatalities . I strongly feel 3rd party insurance should be compulsory for dogs. Very lucky this dog didn't cause a car accident.
Given this guy's reaction it would seem you were right not to let him in your home.

phoenixrosehere · 10/10/2024 14:14

HoppingPavlova · 10/10/2024 14:03

Honestly, it likely would have taken you less time to duck out to garden, grab dog, shove it out front door to person and tell them it was their problem to look after it somewhere else till the warden got there.

Edited to add in case not clear, I’m not saying let the person into your house. Tell them you’ll just be a minute. Shut the front door. Duck out back door, grab dog, open front door and shove dog onto them. Shut door.

Edited

Unless I missed it, OP hadn’t said or mentioned that they have actually gone up to the dog when it has come into their garden so it may not be as easy and simple as go into her garden and grab it.

Hunnymonster1 · 10/10/2024 14:15

OrdsallChord · 10/10/2024 14:12

I'm northern and I think it's batshit to expect women to let random men onto their properties because those random men claim to be looking for a dog. So it's not that.

Not if you look out yiur window abd said dog is in back garden it's not awkward or wrong is it

OrdsallChord · 10/10/2024 14:16

Bluenoodles · 10/10/2024 14:13

I haven't assumed anything.
I have said she can check the garden, use her own eyes and see for herself.
Fuck sake. Don't bother responding if you cannot do basic comprehension.

You've written far too much bollocks in this thread to be able to pull off condescending.

Your whole argument was that he wouldn't wait til the dog was in the garden if he was a predator. And OP never said whether she knew the dog was there or not. You made an assumption, and you know what they say about those.

Hunnymonster1 · 10/10/2024 14:17

Look right yes ultimately it's dog owner fault i have 2 dogs it would be my fault but if I knew my dog had got on someone's garden abd they didn't try to call me as my number is on their collar stitched on or allow a guy to get dog then I woukd be a bit upset. If u saw dog was in your back garden why not allow the dude to do that. This wories for safety shit all the time is madness I say that as a woman not all me are gonna kill you

SmallBox · 10/10/2024 14:17

What is wrong with people on this thread? Why the hell would a woman alone in her house and AT WORK let a complete stranger in, a man who could be anybody to rescue a dog (not even his dog!) that might be aggressive or bite. Has nobody watched the news? Women are not safe from men they don't know!

Bluenoodles · 10/10/2024 14:19

OrdsallChord · 10/10/2024 14:16

You've written far too much bollocks in this thread to be able to pull off condescending.

Your whole argument was that he wouldn't wait til the dog was in the garden if he was a predator. And OP never said whether she knew the dog was there or not. You made an assumption, and you know what they say about those.

Again can see basic comprehension doesn't appear to be a strong point. Maybe stay off the internet.

Hunnymonster1 · 10/10/2024 14:19

SmallBox · 10/10/2024 14:17

What is wrong with people on this thread? Why the hell would a woman alone in her house and AT WORK let a complete stranger in, a man who could be anybody to rescue a dog (not even his dog!) that might be aggressive or bite. Has nobody watched the news? Women are not safe from men they don't know!

Bullshit seriously why so paranoid if I looked out my window and there was a dog there i wouldn't think oh here comes an axe murderer by the way it's partners that kill more women not strange men

OrdsallChord · 10/10/2024 14:19

Bluenoodles · 10/10/2024 14:19

Again can see basic comprehension doesn't appear to be a strong point. Maybe stay off the internet.

You're the captain of Team Barking.

SmallBox · 10/10/2024 14:20

Hunnymonster1 · 10/10/2024 14:17

Look right yes ultimately it's dog owner fault i have 2 dogs it would be my fault but if I knew my dog had got on someone's garden abd they didn't try to call me as my number is on their collar stitched on or allow a guy to get dog then I woukd be a bit upset. If u saw dog was in your back garden why not allow the dude to do that. This wories for safety shit all the time is madness I say that as a woman not all me are gonna kill you

Edited

No, of course not all men are going to kill you but how do you know which ones are? Do we let all of them that bang frantically on our door into our house while we're alone?

Hunnymonster1 · 10/10/2024 14:20

SmallBox · 10/10/2024 14:20

No, of course not all men are going to kill you but how do you know which ones are? Do we let all of them that bang frantically on our door into our house while we're alone?

I wouldn't have a problem i don't think omg here's a killer its bloody paranoid thinking.

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