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Not to help catch a stray/escaped dog! Now it’s my fault it’s been injured apparently!

554 replies

notmyproblems · 10/10/2024 12:32

Someone’s dog keeps escaping and for some reason it kept making its way into my garden. It had been dodging cars apparently and being a nuisance. Regularly have people knocking asking is it mine.

Two weeks ago someone saw it run into my garden and they were banging on the door . I answered (I was WFH and busy) and they were demanding to be allowed into the garden to keep hold of the dog till the warden could get there. I said no. Wait till it goes back out again (I didn’t want someone I don’t know in my house / garden) then catch it and secure it .

Ive since got the gap fixed and the dog can’t get in anymore. Haven’t seen it

Had a knock on the door today (same person) saying the dog had been hit by a car and they’d had to take it to a vet and how it all could have been avoided had I allowed them access and they hoped I was happy with having it on my conscience. So i just closed the door as they were still talking which made them shout and bang on the door???

Im not the irresponsible dog owner so it’s not my fault !

OP posts:
KnottedTwine · 10/10/2024 13:23

Sorry boss, I can't take this Zoom meeting or reply to emails or make that phone call because I am twatting around with a random man, chasing a dog which isn't even mine. Or his.

listsandbudgets · 10/10/2024 13:24

So a dog has somehow escaped or been abandoned - either the owner is frantically looking for it or it's effectively a stray.

The dog gets into traffic and panics. You have a gap in your fence and it runs in to your garden.

A well meaning member of the public wants to catch the dog, put it on a lead and hand it over to a safe pair of hands. Unfortunately this means going through your house.

You decide to refuse access to do that - you'd prefer the dog got out and took its chances with the traffic?

Traumatic for the person who hit the dog. Awful for the dog. Terrible (assuming the dog's not been abandoned) for the owner.

Poor dog. Yes you could have prevented it by allowing them in to collect the dog. You don't sound very compassionate hope you've not got pets.

OrdsallChord · 10/10/2024 13:24

Gwenhwyfar · 10/10/2024 13:21

We often have to let strangers into our home. Police, workmen, etc. It wasn't totally random - it was to get the dog.

You don't have to, actually, unless the police have a warrant. Which you'd be able to see in most cases. You could ask for ID, in many cases you'd have arranged the visit yourself, and you could refrain from letting them in until you've phoned someone else for confirmation. None of those things apply to this in fact totally random bloke. Poor comparison.

qualifiedazure · 10/10/2024 13:24

Gwenhwyfar · 10/10/2024 13:21

We often have to let strangers into our home. Police, workmen, etc. It wasn't totally random - it was to get the dog.

Pretty sure there's a difference between a policeman there for a purpose and a bloke saying he needs help looking for a lost dog...
Seriously you would just let any strange man in your house if he had a good story? No ID needed, no appointment, just a cold knock at the door asking to come in?

Teeshs · 10/10/2024 13:25

Of course they could have waited for the dog to come out if they were that concerned.
Yanbu.

PosiePetal · 10/10/2024 13:25

I think it’s very sad that you couldn't help out,

Myas · 10/10/2024 13:25

listsandbudgets · 10/10/2024 13:24

So a dog has somehow escaped or been abandoned - either the owner is frantically looking for it or it's effectively a stray.

The dog gets into traffic and panics. You have a gap in your fence and it runs in to your garden.

A well meaning member of the public wants to catch the dog, put it on a lead and hand it over to a safe pair of hands. Unfortunately this means going through your house.

You decide to refuse access to do that - you'd prefer the dog got out and took its chances with the traffic?

Traumatic for the person who hit the dog. Awful for the dog. Terrible (assuming the dog's not been abandoned) for the owner.

Poor dog. Yes you could have prevented it by allowing them in to collect the dog. You don't sound very compassionate hope you've not got pets.

he didnt want to put it on a lead and take it out

PopcornSquirrel · 10/10/2024 13:25

YANBU. If he was that bothered about the dog he could have waited by the fence for it to come back out. No reason he needed to be in your house or garden.

Mischance · 10/10/2024 13:26

I am a dog hater. But I think I would probably have let her in but asked her to take the dog away to wait for the warden rather than waiting in my garden. That way the dog would have been out of circulation and unable to be a nuisance.

It sounds as though the woman was "demanding" which would put anyone off though.

It is not your fault the dog was injured. There was no way you could have known this would happen.

ChiffandBipper · 10/10/2024 13:26

Gribbit987 · 10/10/2024 13:17

This isn’t about liking dogs. This is about recognising an animal is a sentient being and trying to avoid it suffering unnecessarily. Which the op had an opportunity to do.

There were a lot of options open to them that weren’t “no”. They didn’t have to allow a person to wait in their garden for a dog warden. But they could have engaged and tried to help. They didn’t. Their actions culminated in a dog being injured. Most people would want to avoid this and find the outcome upsetting. The op is instead indignant.

Most people recognise a basic principle of being respectful to animals. This includes helping them in times of need. The op’s conduct was selfish and unpleasant.

What? Their actions culminated in a dog being injured? What are you talking about? OPs actions 2 weeks prior to the event had as much bearing on the injury as what the dog had for breakfast!

listsandbudgets · 10/10/2024 13:26

qualifiedazure · 10/10/2024 13:24

Pretty sure there's a difference between a policeman there for a purpose and a bloke saying he needs help looking for a lost dog...
Seriously you would just let any strange man in your house if he had a good story? No ID needed, no appointment, just a cold knock at the door asking to come in?

Except it's clear ot OP there's a dog in her garden - so unless they went round released it through the fence and then went on knocked on her door they're not exactly casing the joint

OrdsallChord · 10/10/2024 13:26

Bluenoodles · 10/10/2024 13:23

Are you saying he’s been waiting for the opportune moment to get onto the ops house under the guise of helping the dog ?

We don't even know the dog was in the garden at that point, only that it has been in the past and that he told OP it was. Might not have even done any waiting.

qualifiedazure · 10/10/2024 13:26

listsandbudgets · 10/10/2024 13:24

So a dog has somehow escaped or been abandoned - either the owner is frantically looking for it or it's effectively a stray.

The dog gets into traffic and panics. You have a gap in your fence and it runs in to your garden.

A well meaning member of the public wants to catch the dog, put it on a lead and hand it over to a safe pair of hands. Unfortunately this means going through your house.

You decide to refuse access to do that - you'd prefer the dog got out and took its chances with the traffic?

Traumatic for the person who hit the dog. Awful for the dog. Terrible (assuming the dog's not been abandoned) for the owner.

Poor dog. Yes you could have prevented it by allowing them in to collect the dog. You don't sound very compassionate hope you've not got pets.

The man could have waited by the fence to get the dog,

The dog getting hit by a car weeks later when the OP has already blocked up the hole in the fence has nothing to do with her.

phoenixrosehere · 10/10/2024 13:26

Bluenoodles · 10/10/2024 13:23

Are you saying he’s been waiting for the opportune moment to get onto the ops house under the guise of helping the dog ?

No because that is not what I wrote.

I wrote exactly what I meant. The poster I responded to wrote OP could be ostracised by her neighbours over this. I pointed out there’s no proof he is a neighbour.

NamelessNancy · 10/10/2024 13:26

In all likelihood as soon as Random Man stepped heroically out of OP's house the dog would have legged it out of the garden through whatever route it entered by!

blobby10 · 10/10/2024 13:27

@notmyproblems how is it your fault the dog was hit by a car when it was two weeks ago that you wouldn't let the random person access the garden? This is bizarre! fwiw I wouldn't have let them in either!

listsandbudgets · 10/10/2024 13:29

As an addendum to my previous post - sorry OP they had no right to ask to wait in your garden with the dog. I would have let them in to get it on a lead but they'd not have been hanging about.

MassiveOvaryaction · 10/10/2024 13:30

I'm confused - was the dog hit by the car the day you refused a randomer access to your home? Or today because you've blocked up the hole so the dog can't get into your garden?

colourfulchinadolls · 10/10/2024 13:30

Yanbu.

No way would I be OK with someone's feral dog running around pissing and shitting up my lawn and yapping when im trying to work.

This is why we need pet licences.

qualifiedazure · 10/10/2024 13:32

listsandbudgets · 10/10/2024 13:26

Except it's clear ot OP there's a dog in her garden - so unless they went round released it through the fence and then went on knocked on her door they're not exactly casing the joint

If it was your teenage daughter home alone and a strange man knocked on the door and asked to come through the house into the garden to wait with a stray dog - would you be happy if she let him in?

mammaCh · 10/10/2024 13:33

No way would a stranger be allowed in my house!
Why couldn't they wait at the gap they saw the dog go into?

namechangetheworld · 10/10/2024 13:35

Procrastinates · 10/10/2024 13:17

Some of you are absolutely batshit, honestly.

I'll second that statement. Honestly there was zero reason he needed to be in the garden.

Edited

Dog nutters. They come out in full force over stuff like this.

listsandbudgets · 10/10/2024 13:36

qualifiedazure · 10/10/2024 13:32

If it was your teenage daughter home alone and a strange man knocked on the door and asked to come through the house into the garden to wait with a stray dog - would you be happy if she let him in?

My teenage daughter would know not to answer the door to a strange person especially in the first place dog in the garden or no dog in the garden. Don't you tell yours the same?

However, the OP is presumably not a teenage girl and she knew there was a dog out there.

Apollo365 · 10/10/2024 13:37

They are fucking insane.

Procrastinates · 10/10/2024 13:37

namechangetheworld · 10/10/2024 13:35

Dog nutters. They come out in full force over stuff like this.

I actually wonder if those who think the op is BU own dogs.

As a dog owner myself I find it's often those who don't actually own a dog who have stronger views on what you should/shouldn't do in regards to dogs. It's a bit like those who have no children having stronger opinions on how kids should act, behave or be disciplined etc.