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Not to help catch a stray/escaped dog! Now it’s my fault it’s been injured apparently!

554 replies

notmyproblems · 10/10/2024 12:32

Someone’s dog keeps escaping and for some reason it kept making its way into my garden. It had been dodging cars apparently and being a nuisance. Regularly have people knocking asking is it mine.

Two weeks ago someone saw it run into my garden and they were banging on the door . I answered (I was WFH and busy) and they were demanding to be allowed into the garden to keep hold of the dog till the warden could get there. I said no. Wait till it goes back out again (I didn’t want someone I don’t know in my house / garden) then catch it and secure it .

Ive since got the gap fixed and the dog can’t get in anymore. Haven’t seen it

Had a knock on the door today (same person) saying the dog had been hit by a car and they’d had to take it to a vet and how it all could have been avoided had I allowed them access and they hoped I was happy with having it on my conscience. So i just closed the door as they were still talking which made them shout and bang on the door???

Im not the irresponsible dog owner so it’s not my fault !

OP posts:
OrdsallChord · 12/10/2024 13:40

Also there is no side gate.

NinaPersson · 12/10/2024 13:41

Sharptonguedwoman · 12/10/2024 13:28

Fair. But I’d always help the dog if I possibly could. Always.

I’m pretty wary of dogs, it would be a big ask to approach and care for it. WFH or not.

SerafinasGoose · 12/10/2024 13:53

NinaPersson · 12/10/2024 13:39

How is WFH an excuse? If you’re working, you are working regardless of where you are!?

Are you in the habit of allowing strange men into your house? And then sitting in your garden for an unspecified amount of time whilst they wait for the dog people to retrieve it?

This would be a big disruption don’t be silly

Absolutely. Not least, no one needs an 'excuse' as to what they do in their own home, or who they do (or don't) allow access to it. Some posters really do take too much upon themselves.

Had OP let this bloke in, had the consequences been horrible and OP later posted about it on this site for support, you can guarantee she'd be berated for her naivity. The hope would be expressed - in a combination of gentle, patronising and disparaging tones - that she'd now be wiser and more cynical as a result of her bad experience.

Women can't fucking win. In which case they might as well prioritise themselves, their safety and their home environment as they see fit.

Because the rest of society sure as hell won't.

SerafinasGoose · 12/10/2024 13:58

Fluufer · 11/10/2024 19:31

And can we please stop telling women that we should be opening the door with a smile to random men who hammer on the door demanding access. Fucking hell.

I suspect the responses are from a combination of the sort of loopy anthropomorphists who believe the wellbeing of dogs outweighs that of humans on every conceivable instance; from the kind of incels populating this site who constantly peddle the mindless message that a woman's place is to do exactly what a man tells her or else; or to the third and most inexplicable group of the lot: women who support this crap at other women's expense and call other women who don't support it 'man haters'.

This tedious treadmill to nowhere is very much the direction this site has been taking for the past five years or so.

Sweetnessandbite · 12/10/2024 14:03

I find it so strange that this has turned into women's wfh not being as important as the mighty dangerous man.

She didn't need to let him through the house. She could have attempted to help another way It may not have worked but there were various options.

Also we have already established that all estates would have a multitude of animal lovers or just decent people that would help contain a dog if a social media post was made. Dog wardens do take ages but there are other options.

I don't know why it has turned into let a dangerous man in house for hours or do nothing. As I have said before there were other options.

If we want to pretend it was so black and white to ease the conscious of those that say not my problem, then fine. But it is very sad. It also isn't about being a dog lover, just a decent human. We need more info if we could make any real thoughts but op has long since disappeared.

Sweetnessandbite · 12/10/2024 14:12

The man does sound off to coming back 2 weeks later to have a go at the OP. That is not on. Also why does no-one know the owner if the dog is always out.

If a dog that is always out is posted on Facebook normally there are lots of posts about it.

The OP didn't need to be responsible for catching the dog and stopping future escapes. The owners are the irresponsible ones although there may be a reason behind it and they may need help. Again we don't know. But she could have helped more tha she did. That's all. This whole thread is ridiculous

OrdsallChord · 12/10/2024 14:17

Sweetnessandbite · 12/10/2024 14:03

I find it so strange that this has turned into women's wfh not being as important as the mighty dangerous man.

She didn't need to let him through the house. She could have attempted to help another way It may not have worked but there were various options.

Also we have already established that all estates would have a multitude of animal lovers or just decent people that would help contain a dog if a social media post was made. Dog wardens do take ages but there are other options.

I don't know why it has turned into let a dangerous man in house for hours or do nothing. As I have said before there were other options.

If we want to pretend it was so black and white to ease the conscious of those that say not my problem, then fine. But it is very sad. It also isn't about being a dog lover, just a decent human. We need more info if we could make any real thoughts but op has long since disappeared.

If we need more info, why do you keep making things up? This post is full of total invention.

NinaPersson · 12/10/2024 14:25

Sweetnessandbite · 12/10/2024 14:03

I find it so strange that this has turned into women's wfh not being as important as the mighty dangerous man.

She didn't need to let him through the house. She could have attempted to help another way It may not have worked but there were various options.

Also we have already established that all estates would have a multitude of animal lovers or just decent people that would help contain a dog if a social media post was made. Dog wardens do take ages but there are other options.

I don't know why it has turned into let a dangerous man in house for hours or do nothing. As I have said before there were other options.

If we want to pretend it was so black and white to ease the conscious of those that say not my problem, then fine. But it is very sad. It also isn't about being a dog lover, just a decent human. We need more info if we could make any real thoughts but op has long since disappeared.

The third post from the OP said that the man who knocked on the door wanted to be allowed into the garden to sit with the dog until the dog warden came, which could have been a couple of hours. So the (potentially dangerous) man would have been (potentially) on OPs property for a few hours, this is where that came from.

The OP was working, she wasn’t been paid to play dog catcher.

NinaPersson · 12/10/2024 14:27

Sweetnessandbite · 12/10/2024 14:03

I find it so strange that this has turned into women's wfh not being as important as the mighty dangerous man.

She didn't need to let him through the house. She could have attempted to help another way It may not have worked but there were various options.

Also we have already established that all estates would have a multitude of animal lovers or just decent people that would help contain a dog if a social media post was made. Dog wardens do take ages but there are other options.

I don't know why it has turned into let a dangerous man in house for hours or do nothing. As I have said before there were other options.

If we want to pretend it was so black and white to ease the conscious of those that say not my problem, then fine. But it is very sad. It also isn't about being a dog lover, just a decent human. We need more info if we could make any real thoughts but op has long since disappeared.

the only other sensible option which the op suggested to shouty man was wait at the opening, problem solved.

no wonder OP hasn’t been back, absolutely ridiculous suggestions and posters.

Sharptonguedwoman · 12/10/2024 14:40

NinaPersson · 12/10/2024 13:41

I’m pretty wary of dogs, it would be a big ask to approach and care for it. WFH or not.

I’m a long term dog owner so pretty chilled but careful.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 12/10/2024 14:58

She didn't need to let him through the house. She could have attempted to help another way It may not have worked but there were various options.

So come on all you random man/rabid dog lover/gullible people pleaser supporters, what are these other options (aside from the sensible man guards hole in hedge suggestion that the OP provided)?

notmyproblems · 12/10/2024 15:02

Sorry haven’t been back on as work has been hectic so just catching up on replies I wasn’t expecting so many.

OP posts:
NinaPersson · 12/10/2024 15:03

Sharptonguedwoman · 12/10/2024 14:40

I’m a long term dog owner so pretty chilled but careful.

then I can see why you would think it would be possible to catch this dog. However, many of us wouldn’t feel comfortable, so probably shouldn’t offer this as a suggestion or maybe prefix it with, “if you’re comfortable and confident approaching dog”

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 12/10/2024 15:08

I'm not sure there's any need to catch the dog (assuming the OP doesn't mind it running round her garden). Stop it leaving the garden and let (as it happens non-existent) dog warden deal with catching it. What was random man planning on doing, lassoing it with his belt?

Bellatrixpure · 12/10/2024 15:18

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 12/10/2024 15:08

I'm not sure there's any need to catch the dog (assuming the OP doesn't mind it running round her garden). Stop it leaving the garden and let (as it happens non-existent) dog warden deal with catching it. What was random man planning on doing, lassoing it with his belt?

😂 who knows, the random shouty man seemed a bit unhinged so god knows what his plan was!

Quite a few posters suggested leashing it (with a lead, that OP may not have had) or using one of her belts ( emmmmm, nope) or allow random crazy man on the loose in her house and property to play crazy dog lover rescue brigade.

I probably wouldn’t want a dog roaming my garden shitting everywhere, digging up my plants or chasing away the welcome wildlife

cherish123 · 12/10/2024 15:27

notmyproblems · 10/10/2024 12:36

The only way in and out of the garden is through the house I didn’t want a random person then a dog warden and they could have been hours ! I was working

I think YANBU.
I am a dog owner. This is not your responsibility and you were working. Do not feel guilty. You are within your rights to make your garden secure. Was it the owner or someone else who banged on your door?

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 12/10/2024 15:27

I probably wouldn’t want a dog roaming my garden shitting everywhere, digging up my plants or chasing away the welcome wildlife.

No neither would I ( nor presumably the OP since she has blocked the hole) but I'd probably put up with this rather than get involved!

NinaPersson · 12/10/2024 15:52

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 12/10/2024 15:27

I probably wouldn’t want a dog roaming my garden shitting everywhere, digging up my plants or chasing away the welcome wildlife.

No neither would I ( nor presumably the OP since she has blocked the hole) but I'd probably put up with this rather than get involved!

I’d put up with it then send the bill to the dog owners for the damage caused

phoenixrosehere · 12/10/2024 16:09

NinaPersson · 12/10/2024 14:27

the only other sensible option which the op suggested to shouty man was wait at the opening, problem solved.

no wonder OP hasn’t been back, absolutely ridiculous suggestions and posters.

And he couldn’t be bothered to do that. He was happy to wait inside a woman’s home for the dog warden while she was working, but didn’t want to wait outside the gap the dog would have come out of eventually.

Some are choosing to ignore that the dog warden hadn’t shown up (unless he did and OP wasn’t home) and if this guy was so worried about the dog, he could have come back and politely enquired about the dog the next day not wait two weeks to come back and blame OP because it left from where it came of as usual and got hurt.

There’s no guarantee the dog wouldn’t have run out on its own as it did if OP had tried to help and let the guy in.

She would have had to pause her call, explain the situation, maybe even reschedule, let the guy in to her house, lead him through to her garden. By the time, she had done that, the dog could have gone out on its own and she would have done all that for nothing.

Babbahabba · 12/10/2024 18:22

I love animals so personally, as long as it didn't look dangerous or aggressive, I'd have tried my best to help the poor things. But no you weren't under any "obligation" to help it- we all have different morals.

diddl · 12/10/2024 19:12

Babbahabba · 12/10/2024 18:22

I love animals so personally, as long as it didn't look dangerous or aggressive, I'd have tried my best to help the poor things. But no you weren't under any "obligation" to help it- we all have different morals.

Op didn't need to assist though.

The bloke could have waited to catch the dog as it exited her garden.

TheMerryCritic · 12/10/2024 19:55

“Hi I’m a man you don’t know. Can I come in your house and sit in your garden for an hour or so to stop a dog you have nothing to do with from going back through the hole it entered by and thus being on a road and perhaps being a danger to itself and everyone else? No I don’t have a lead. No I am nothing to do with the dog. If you refuse and once again it runs riot (not still safe in your garden, with me), even gets injured, I will come back and shout abuse at you in a fortnight. You work from home? Not to worry. I’ll sit in your garden until another man you don’t know comes to get the dog, to return it to the owner who lets it wander about. Or maybe to get it put down, who knows what wardens do. If he turns up at all. “

The world has gone mad. Who let the dogs out?

Jzp · 12/10/2024 20:15

YABVU. Does it make you happy being deliberately obstructive? At the end of the day that’s a living creature that your actions put at risk. If you were that busy with work you wouldn’t have answered the door in the first place

Petitchat · 12/10/2024 21:37

Babbahabba · 12/10/2024 18:22

I love animals so personally, as long as it didn't look dangerous or aggressive, I'd have tried my best to help the poor things. But no you weren't under any "obligation" to help it- we all have different morals.

Nothing to do with morals.

Obviously, you haven't read OP'S posts properly.

Petitchat · 12/10/2024 21:41

Sweetnessandbite · 12/10/2024 14:03

I find it so strange that this has turned into women's wfh not being as important as the mighty dangerous man.

She didn't need to let him through the house. She could have attempted to help another way It may not have worked but there were various options.

Also we have already established that all estates would have a multitude of animal lovers or just decent people that would help contain a dog if a social media post was made. Dog wardens do take ages but there are other options.

I don't know why it has turned into let a dangerous man in house for hours or do nothing. As I have said before there were other options.

If we want to pretend it was so black and white to ease the conscious of those that say not my problem, then fine. But it is very sad. It also isn't about being a dog lover, just a decent human. We need more info if we could make any real thoughts but op has long since disappeared.

Would you stay on your own thread where many posters are saying you should have put your own safety last and taken risks?

No?
Me neither?