Not to help catch a stray/escaped dog! Now it’s my fault it’s been injured apparently!

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Someone’s dog keeps escaping and for some reason it kept making its way into my garden. It had been dodging cars apparently and being a nuisance. Regularly have people knocking asking is it mine.

Two weeks ago someone saw it run into my garden and they were banging on the door . I answered (I was WFH and busy) and they were demanding to be allowed into the garden to keep hold of the dog till the warden could get there. I said no. Wait till it goes back out again (I didn’t want someone I don’t know in my house / garden) then catch it and secure it .

Ive since got the gap fixed and the dog can’t get in anymore. Haven’t seen it

Had a knock on the door today (same person) saying the dog had been hit by a car and they’d had to take it to a vet and how it all could have been avoided had I allowed them access and they hoped I was happy with having it on my conscience. So i just closed the door as they were still talking which made them shout and bang on the door???

Im not the irresponsible dog owner so it’s not my fault !

Disagreeing with you isn't 'being combative'.

I'm talking about the OP not helping out with the loose dog situation in the first place. I don't think she was helpful or neighbourly, because she clearly wasn't. I assume that's why the man was angry with her, rather than it just being out of the blue. But I can't be arsed to deal with the usual barrage of dog haters on here, so I'm out.

You were combative well before you disagreed with me, in fact.

Funny how you're out once it's been pointed out that you've got some things wrong about the situation and made others up. What a coincidence, but get better at reading next time you want to stick the boot into someone.

Well i’d always allow someone to get their dog, and yes i would feel bad an animal had been injured because I didn’t, clearly you don’t but they are also to blame for not stopping the dog from escaping

Women who baulk at unknown men in their homes = dog haters. Who knew?

Oh wow, yeah you've got me. Yawn.

Indeed. I'd much rather be considered a dog hater than a naive idiot who lets any tom dick or harry into my home because of a dog.

Why did thean even have to be in your garden? Surely it would have been easier for him to block the hole, and dog stays in your garden til the warden arrives? Or am I missing something?

I do indeed. Do better next time.

She clearly didn't actually have to let the random man into her house and there were plenty of other ways of dealing with this that kept the dog safe without putting her at risk.

Are you always this preachy?

This is invention, just so we're all clear. You have no idea if there were plenty of ways.

Of course there were.

But have the last word as it's clearly desperately important to you.

Think you've misunderstood, I'm in fact being gloaty.

Oh well. You do you.

Maybe you'll manage to stick the flounce this time. Second time lucky, eh.

Are you really bored? Why don't you go and have a nice lie-down.

Where on earth does it say the dog was terrified? If it genuinely was terrified what do you think its reaction would have been to Random Man stepping out of OP's house, cape billowing around him? To leg it FFS! A calm chilled dog might have come to him through the gap, any other situation would almost certainly have involved the dog hot-footing it straight out and possibly on to the road. This is all so illogical.

Again, I love dogs and wish this accident could have been avoided but do not think for one second OP letting a random stranger into her garden would have helped.

Like what for instance?

Why don't you actually read the OPs posts and stop showing yourself up.

I don’t have any dog leashes available in my home, I guess that most non dog owners wouldn’t either. So where is the lead coming from in your suggestion?

And then once you have found a lead, we have the problem of catching a volatile dog, how we have no idea is going to react to being chased, caught, leashed then dragged through a strangers house.

i find your suggestions rather stupid.

May not have been your fault completely, but yes you had a dealing in it. Ffs why couldn't you have just let them deal with it ? I'm sick of hearing "not my problem ".
You carry on living in your ivory tower,and let's hope that in the future you don't need someone to lend a hand.

Wonder how it was I guessed that it was a man who came to your home specifically to confront you and then hammered on your door to intimidate you. Just goes to show your instinct not to invite this entitled, aggressive creep into your home was spot on.

But this is Mumsnet, therefore YABU if you expected anything approaching a measured, sensible response from a dog thread!

Had I been working I wouldn't have bothered to answer the door at all. I dislike having my concentration interrupted. And only on MN is there any form of weird-hang up where answering or not anwering your own door in your own home is in any way a matter of contention.

YANBU. If he continues to harass you, report the fucker.

I wouldn't let a strange man into my house. If an escaped dog get's run over, the owner is to blame. Simple. I would not have been impressed to have a dog in my garden in the first place, nor would I go anywhere near to catch it myself.

This thread is absolutely ridiculous.

Firstly, the two incidents were unrelated to each other and separated by two weeks. In the first incident the man could have waited outside the garden for the dog to exit and then returned it home, or it could have been caught by the warden and then returned home, or it could have returned home under its own steam. The chances are it would have escaped again regardless of the OP's involvement or not. If the dog had been hit by a car that day then I could more readily understand the comments on here (although still not think the OP was to blame), but this was an incident that happened weeks later.

Secondly, most people don't want a random man and dog in their garden for hours. I wouldn't. If the man had been the actual owner armed with a lead then I would have allowed him entry if he was unable to call his dog out of the garden, but this guy wasn't the owner and he didn't have a lead. And are wardens going to prioritise non-aggressive dogs in gardens and swiftly attend the scene to take it away? Or is that dog going to be added to the bottom of the list of dangerous dogs, dogs worrying cattle and the like and therefore left for hours in the garden?

Thirdly, the man could have waited for the dog to exit the garden.

Fourthly, why are posters putting so much effort into telling the OP she's a horrible person/dog hater/spawn of Satan rather than blaming the actual dog owner for not caring for his/her dog properly?

Fifthly, non-dog owners don't have leads laying around on the off-chance they need to catch a stray dog.

Sixthly, being Northern doesn't make you a more caring person.

And I'm sick of reading reports of men harrassing and threatening women. I'm also sick of reading protestations that women should just humour and entertain the demands of men, no matter how unreasonable (and if you're a man, asking for access into the property of a woman you don't know falls decisively into the territory of highly unreasonable).

I wonder how many women have heeded this sort of advice and ended up one of the 2-3 women a week murdered at the hands of a man? It's also clear that dishing out glib advice like this is very much part of this pervasive social problem. It's contributing to the social conditioning of women who are primed in this way from infancy.

But I'm guessing that's 'not your problem', right? And that 'not all men are like that'.

Sing a different tune.