My baby has fallen victim to North Korean propaganda!

[sunnyinthevalley]

I left my 17 month old baby at my mother's home when I went to a afternoon party with DH, and left DD17mo with my tablet, opened on the youtube app.

I come home, and some strange music is playing, and DD is clapping along happily and swaying a bit, and my mother is smiling, swaying along + cooking a casserole.

I peer at what's playing on the tablet, and it's this:

My current guess is that it appeared as a recommended video and DD tapped it (she's good with these things - even laptops!)

DM was singing 'key shown oon' along (she's not really in touch with current affairs/news, had no idea this was a dictator, and thought it was some sort of ad DD had looped.)

Then I was scrolling the BBC on my laptop, with DD beside me, and she sees Kim, and starts smiling and giggling.

I'm not sure if I should be irritated or amused

You never answered my question. Would you or would you not say to someone in real life that they were a shit parent if they told you this story?

Of course you wouldn’t because you’re the big bold yin on the internet only.

I’m a middle class Englander and think I have to agree with you.
Anyhoo, need to go find the baby, think I left them playing with the oven…

This thread is WILD, and not because of the OP…

‘I'm not sure if I should be irritated or amused’.

I’d go with irritated… what’s wrong with good old CBeebies?? I say this as someone who does allow screen time on the TV. At least then they’re not going to end up watching something inappropriate (I don’t just mean the video she ended up watching).

I’m assuming she’s used to watching unsupervised You tube at home with you if your mum is doing it too - why is she sticking her in front of tablet? Your mum only sees her alone once a month and she gets put infront of a tablet instead of them spending quality time together? Unless there’s some huge back story here that’s pretty sad.

Surely letting her roam around whilst she cooks is better, or sitting her in the high chair to watch her cook? You’re being very naive to think this is harmless. It might be now but when she’s 3/4/5 and she’s able to have unsupervised/unrestricted access to YT you might not be so lucky.

Yes and that would be as equally sad.

A@TheAlchemy I replied to this thread only to your point because I can’t bear seeing fellow Scots take any chance to slag people off on the basis of their nationality and because you seem to think that being a working class parent means it’s perfectly ok to do things that aren’t great for their kids. As I’m a bit long in the tooth, I think I may have the words to explain it rather better if I had a young family member or friend doing this.

It’s not a bit of telly though, is it? I don’t have a problem with tv for kids, and I don’t think youtube is the devil but it’s a tablet, and a 17 month old who’s being plonked in front of one. Tablets and smartphones are worse for emitting blue light and it’s more harmful to kids, it’s causing early onset puberty in lots of kids and that causes a whole host of other problems later on. And this is a 17 month old who the OP refers to as being ‘good with these things’ so it’s clearly not occasional use if they’ve picked up how to select videos at that age.

No you don’t. A 17-month old baby wouldn’t have learnt how to use the iPad and laptop if it was once every four weeks.

Touchy somewhat? THIS IS AIBU !!!

On his own device. So he has to come and use family tech rather than be tucked in a corner scrolling forever.

Are you ok?

Just checking in to see if this thread panned out the way I thought it would: yup. @TheAlchemy has it. (Fist bump from this fellow Scot.)

OP, I love the mental image that gave me. Imagining her starting school with a North Korean haircut and lecturing the other 5 year olds about Our Glorious Leader...

Perfectly fine because im not spending a Sunday morning telling someone they’re harming their kids.

If you need to use a screen for downtime, regular tv would be far better as you’ve found out the algorithm can take you to crazy places on YouTube, some kids content on has some really really dodgy content, tv and YouTube are vastly different and yt has little to no regulation.

Of course not - however an informed decision is an important part of making an independent decision in my opinion.

it doesn’t sound as if OP was aware of the guidance- she now has the opportunity to make an informed decision. She might still decide she wants to go against the guidance.

I personally follow it because - as previous posters have noted - screens are incredibly addictive (guilty as charged here), there’s all sorts of crap on screens I don’t want my child exposed to …. the commentary helps with their language development so it’s not saying it’s a bad thing to sit and watch telly with your three year old - it can have benefits, I just don’t want to spend my time doing it. (In saying that , she does ballet and acro and there have been a few occasions when I’ve shown her brief bits of both with active commentary because I’d broken my foot and couldn’t actively demonstrate/join in- but it was time limited until my boot came off) Other family members will sit with her now she’s three and prattle away and good on them - it’s just not for me (an independent choice - I’m sure she’d love it if I would!!)

Well she is though, according to research.

It’s not some you can just ignore or say it’s not true because I don’t believe it does any harm for my baby. I doubt all parents know how bad it is, and if OP is saying this is what all parents do in Scotland (which I doubt very much) then they obviously don’t.

Not judging OP, it was quite funny, but that baby should do other things rather than watching YT on an iPad.

And you’re with the OP and her baby every minute of the day and you know that the baby does nothing else except watch the iPad do you?

imagine sitting on the internet calling someone else a shit parent to make yourself feel better. So sad.

It's a bop!

It got a bit of attention on social media a couple of months ago because it is actually quite a good little tune! A lot of people watched it because of that. I did as well.
I wouldn't worry. It'll be an amusing story to tell in 20 years.

17 months is too young for hours of screens regardless, but as you have just found out, YouTube is vastly different when the child can just click on, and watch, anything.

I don't even let my 6 and 8 year olds watch it.

Why would I be with OP and her baby? I am definitely not calling her a bad parents. I said it’s bad for babies to go on YT on an iPad, if the baby is 17 months old and already knows well how to use the iPad and laptop, it is used often.

Is it not good to encourage parents to actually do some research on it, if they honestly don’t know why it is bad?

Yep click on MN any hour of any day, on any thread and you’ll always find a keyboard warrior spewing stuff they wouldn’t dare say IRL. I suspect there are a lot of people with serious anger management issues using MN as an outlet. Maybe it should be recognised as a public service !!

“Well she is though, according to research.“

you did call her a bad parent. And you used “according to research” as a means to justify it.

Anyway hope it’s made you feel better.

This thread is absolutely awful. What a sour crowd.

About average for a Sunday morning on AIBU !!