My baby has fallen victim to North Korean propaganda!

[sunnyinthevalley]

I left my 17 month old baby at my mother's home when I went to a afternoon party with DH, and left DD17mo with my tablet, opened on the youtube app.

I come home, and some strange music is playing, and DD is clapping along happily and swaying a bit, and my mother is smiling, swaying along + cooking a casserole.

I peer at what's playing on the tablet, and it's this:

My current guess is that it appeared as a recommended video and DD tapped it (she's good with these things - even laptops!)

DM was singing 'key shown oon' along (she's not really in touch with current affairs/news, had no idea this was a dictator, and thought it was some sort of ad DD had looped.)

Then I was scrolling the BBC on my laptop, with DD beside me, and she sees Kim, and starts smiling and giggling.

I'm not sure if I should be irritated or amused

“why on earth would I be setting my baby up for an addiction from so early on? I have teenagers and that’s bad enough but at least they weren’t exposed from so early on when studies are quite clearly showing harmful impacts on kids attention span.

you did say stuff about the OP so why are you lying?

honestly enjoy your Sunday this is so pointless.

The only people that are rude are those sat on an internet forum telling a mum she’s harming her kid and she’s a terrible parent. When they wouldn’t say that to her face.

She also said her kid knows how to get the next video on YT. Some other read into that in a way that concerned them and they posted information about the harm SM causes.

We have no way of knowing where on the line the OP is, nor any of the thousands (?) reading this are. So it’s perfectly acceptable to share thoughts on why YT is not the harmless electronic babysitter some might think it is.

@TheAlchemy hardly anyone has called her a ‘terrible parent’, you’ll always get rogue posters.

The vast majority of posters have been pointing out - with evidence - why this isn’t a healthy thing to do with a baby. And I’m pretty sure most of us would indeed explain that to op’s face wouldn’t we? Why would we not?

The vast majority of posts have in fact been horrible have you RTFT?

look the OP won’t be back and I don’t blame her and I won’t be back either. Have a lovely Sunday.

BBCLW · Today 00:37

Buy your daughter a portable DVD player instead, and invest in DVDs of Bagpuss, The Clangers, Bod, Fingerbobs...
That's what we did with ours and it worked a treat. No North Korean propaganda to be seen

Bod was definitely on something. Or the writers were.

Why do think that is the equivalent of saying the op is a “ shit parent”?? It’s really not a contested belief that screen time so young is not a good thing, most of us with older teens would probably understand that once you let that screen genie out of the bag you can’t go back and so delaying access for as long as possible is best for that child? Many of us realise now that we did things when our teens were younger that weren’t a great idea, often because we were overwhelmed, needed a break and to make it easier for ourselves…. I certainly regret stuff so I hate to see younger people making choices that may impact on that child. It’s sad on a personal level and on a societal level. It’s quite possible to express opinions without people resorting to insults or swearing at each other.
ps I made other comments in response to YOUR posts somehow suggesting ,again, that being Scottish and working class, somehow means we are all set up with a rule book of what we can say and think. I am allowed to have an opinion that different to yours, although that somehow justifies you being able to swear at someone?

If a stranger came up to someone and told them a (probably made up anyway) story like this I'm sure plenty of people would say something. Because OP is a stranger and not a family member or friend

I literally never said anything about all working class Scottish people having to think a certain way etc

instead I said that the middle class middle Englanders of mumsnet wouldn’t find the OP funny…. And they haven’t….

People laughing at a propoganda video is hardly the same as giggling at the suffering of the people of North Korea

No one has declared their nationality or social class along with their replies, so bit of a pointless comment.

Who needs K Pop when there's NK Pop!

“Sure but if you weren’t behind your little phone screen (the irony) and someone told you this story, would you, in a Scottish working class community, be bitching on to someone about how they’re a shit parent?
Of course you wouldn’t.”
Your post ! I can’t copy all your posts as some have been deleted….

Can your children not play independently for any length of time? If not, maybe it's because you always used the TV or a tablet instead of facilitating them learning to play.

Edit to add...
Everyone saying people are "shaming" or hating a 'random mum'.... there's no shaming going on. The OP told a story online about something she did, on a chat forum where the point is to elicit discussion and responses. Many posters have responded that what she did I the story and subsequently said she does often is inappropriate for her baby. No shaming involved, just responding to the OP.

Bit late to the party aren’t we

It's a funny thread and not that big of a deal but if the kid is scrolling YouTube and found north Korean propaganda without anyone noticing they could easily of found something a lot more fucked up. I've worked in a school and seen this happen where reception kids are scared shirtless of the toilet man or whatever. It doesn't necessarily mean anyone's a bad parent just they're ignorant about technology and yea I would and have said that to many people's faces

I think it's meant as a somewhat light-hearted post.

I do openly talk about screen restrictions. Because otherwise the perception continues that “all children spend hours on you tube”

And at 12 this is negotiated with DS. There’s mild bribery involved to make it sound appealing (wouldn’t you rather have this long form computer game) but he agrees to not using the frantic video platforms.

Making light of any other kind of neglect of a 17mo old on here and the parent would get destroyed.

But screentime neglect is so convenient that PPs get defensive because they are deep in denial

Do some basic research! You wouldn’t leave your baby shut alone in a room for hours, what makes you think this well evidenced cause of developmental delay is acceptable?

The studies re developmental delays are based on hours of screen time every day.

This child is having some screen time about once per month.

You are being absurd.

This child is having some screen time about once per month.

If you re-read all the op’s posts you will probably change your mind…

DD tapped it (she's good with these things - even laptops!)

Doncha just looove it when a thread derails like this? Grand-mum making dinner, gives tablet to toddler to keep them occupied and out of way, turns into neglect, congnitive delay, vision damage. Someone call cps. 😲

@Mumtobabyhavoc
Do you also looove it when you reply on a thread when you haven’t even read the op’s first post? The one where she says she left her baby with the tablet with YouTube open on it?

And?