My baby has fallen victim to North Korean propaganda!

[sunnyinthevalley]

I left my 17 month old baby at my mother's home when I went to a afternoon party with DH, and left DD17mo with my tablet, opened on the youtube app.

I come home, and some strange music is playing, and DD is clapping along happily and swaying a bit, and my mother is smiling, swaying along + cooking a casserole.

I peer at what's playing on the tablet, and it's this:

My current guess is that it appeared as a recommended video and DD tapped it (she's good with these things - even laptops!)

DM was singing 'key shown oon' along (she's not really in touch with current affairs/news, had no idea this was a dictator, and thought it was some sort of ad DD had looped.)

Then I was scrolling the BBC on my laptop, with DD beside me, and she sees Kim, and starts smiling and giggling.

I'm not sure if I should be irritated or amused

Imagine being still so ignorant of child development. And being angry when people point it out.

My degree is in child development but I don’t go ramming it down people’s throats and telling them they’re a shit parent if they make different choices.

So glad this has been so self esteem boosting for you though.

Yes. I read some it last night too.
A pitiful display of superiority.

I didn’t call OP a shit parent. Go and be angry at someone else.

That's a massively underrated funny comment

She says, mindlessly scrolling mumsnet.

It is a banger tbf.

You can't expect me to be a perfect mummy always carrying around DD or finding infinite toddler activities for the kiddo.

It's not possible.

If a baby isn’t exposed to dopamine inducing. screens and flashy overstimulating toys then they don’t need adults to provide entertainment. People who show TV to small children are shooting themselves in the foot because you’re undermining the child’s attention span and getting them hooked on being entertained rather than learning to entertain themselves with very little.

Not pearl clutching, just basic child development and psychology. Will be illegal to give screens to under 2s soon, like it is in Sweden

www.janetlansbury.com/2009/10/blue-sky-thinking/

You’ve definitely come to the wrong place for that!

I'm a Child Development Officer for the local authority. I work in education, soley with children with additional support needs...from primary 1 through to senior phase. I have picked up some knowledge along the way.

I can see that an ill-intentioned, unsupportive, self-congratulatory lot have descended upon this thread and turned it into their crowing platform.

I came here to be told off by Scottish people.

You have to make it very, very clear in the title of your post if it is meant to be fun by using the word “lighthearted”. It’s similar to a trigger warning in that it gives the more po faced, humourless mumsnetters the opportunity to scroll past.

They don’t though, because they don’t like to miss an opportunity to criticise even if it is misplaced in a lighthearted thread.

But bear in mind that some of them who say they are appalled that your child looks at screens may well be sitting on the sofa, breaking off from their outraged comments, to slurp some Special Brew, puff on a fag, and shout a Frogmella to stop eating the poo in the cat tray.

None of us know if a poster really is what/ who they portray themselves to be. But I’m willing to bet you have a good sense of humour IRL.

This has really made me giggle OP, especially your mum singing along! Reminds me a bit of flying into Vietnam on holiday this summer. We landed in Ho Chi Minh City (formerly Saigon) and, once we landed, the airplane played The Ballad of Ho Chi Minh over the speakers and we all had to listen to it before we could disembark. My kids were looking at me like "where on earth have you brought us?" at first, but, for Communist propaganda, it was incredibly catchy, and we were all singing along to the chorus by the end.

Not that I want to compare North Korea with Vietnam (which I love!).

So you're saying as a Child Development Officer that it's fine for a 17 month old baby to be on YT on a tablet all afternoon, on it so frequently that she knows how it works, clicking on anything she likes pretty much unsupervised?

I just think it's sad. What would you mum have done to entertain you OP when you were that age? Can't you ask her to do that instead? I know it's more effort and work but if she only has her once every few weeks then it's not a huge ask.

What people are forgetting or not understanding is that the tv of our / our parents’ youth is nothing like YT / TT.

The fast pace, multiple cuts in shorter timeframes, colours, sounds etc are far more extreme. They are designed to appeal to an algorithm that prioritises dopamine hits as that’s what keeps people watching.

They are not designed to educate or inform or with early education best practice in mind like a lot of CBBC / Sesame Street etc.

Not all screen time is bad, but there should be no doubt that some of it is very harmful - and a 17mo watching North Korean propaganda is suboptimal.

Yes it could be seen as cute/funny now, but OP already says the next step is she smiles every time she sees him. Keep watching the videos and the nice friendly happy man is teaching her that democracy is bad or whatever. Obviously this is highly unlikely to happen in this case, but it’s part of the playbook in how people get indoctrinated. People don’t get sucked into Britain First by the extreme videos - they start liking posts about brave service dogs or reunion videos of servicemen and their kids.

again, not saying this is anything close to what is happening here, just that propaganda is designed to be insidious.

So you're saying as a Child Development Officer that it's fine for a 17 month old baby to be on YT on a tablet all afternoon, on it so frequently that she knows how it works, clicking on anything she likes pretty much unsupervised?

😂

Explains a lot though doesn't it!

So you're saying as a Child Development Officer that it's fine for a 17 month old baby to be on YT on a tablet all afternoon, on it so frequently that she knows how it works, clicking on anything she likes pretty much unsupervised?

Did OP say the child had been doing that all afternoon?

Why are you discounting the possibility that the child is simply a genius who learns at lightening speed?

Funny post OP. Peak Mumsnet soor-faced responses.

@TheAlchemy using this thread to have a pop at people for being English, as well as the reverse snobbery stuff, is honestly the worst of Scottish chip-on-the-shoulder stuff.

@Molly

So you're saying as a Child Development Officer that it's fine for a 17 month old baby to be on YT on a tablet all afternoon, on it so frequently that she knows how it works, clicking on anything she likes pretty much unsupervised?

You're putting words in my mouth. I didn't say any of that.
You have also fantasised the above scenario and posted as though you were there yourself.

I'm not going to use my Sunday morning to bicker with that. I'm relaxing.

@sunnyinthevalley
Are you aware of the peer reviewed research linking ADHD and constant clicking on Youtube and TikTok
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9659797/

This thread is a perfect example of how crap mumsnet has got recently. I do wonder how many friends the sanctimonious set on here have in real life- and I’d love to hear the discussions they have between themselves after a visit from The Best Mums Ever 😂

Using this thread to tell another mum they’re a shit parent and harming their kid is the worst chip-on-the-shoulder stuff but sure I’m the problem.

Laudanum. A derivative of opium. Drugging babies was very popular with parents until over the counter opium was banned in the 1920s.

By a strange coincidence television broadcasts started in the 1920s.