My baby has fallen victim to North Korean propaganda!

[sunnyinthevalley]

I left my 17 month old baby at my mother's home when I went to a afternoon party with DH, and left DD17mo with my tablet, opened on the youtube app.

I come home, and some strange music is playing, and DD is clapping along happily and swaying a bit, and my mother is smiling, swaying along + cooking a casserole.

I peer at what's playing on the tablet, and it's this:

My current guess is that it appeared as a recommended video and DD tapped it (she's good with these things - even laptops!)

DM was singing 'key shown oon' along (she's not really in touch with current affairs/news, had no idea this was a dictator, and thought it was some sort of ad DD had looped.)

Then I was scrolling the BBC on my laptop, with DD beside me, and she sees Kim, and starts smiling and giggling.

I'm not sure if I should be irritated or amused

Is it? Or is it a useful thing to share information about how social media is not the same as the broadcast tv of our youth?

Have you not considered that people are sharing this not to beat the OP with her failings but to help anyone reading to make better choices.

Not knowing the dangers of SM is understandable - wilfully trying to shut down people sharing those dangers is just weird.

Oh yeah because the posts have all be really kind, helpful, sympathetic and well meaning towards the OP 🙄

Using this thread to tell another mum they’re a shit parent and harming their kid is the worst chip-on-the-shoulder stuff but sure I’m the problem.

But it's far from ideal to let a baby/toddler have that much access to screens that they're comfortable operating them. It's addictive even for adults and there's real concern about the effects on new brains in the process of wiring.
Sorry but people aren't going to say that's great, it's really not.

I think you might have linked the wrong study, that one is about the representation of ADHD information on Tiktok.

I think they've had too long a break from it. I can't believe the responses either.

When I read the OP, my first thought was that 'Korean twat', then I looked at the video, put it in context of OP's 17 month old daughter jigging along to it with her gran and that was a nice thing for both of them. What they're enjoying is the song, not the politics. That's a lovely relationship right there.

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What is insidious on this site is the 'better mummies' that can't wait to cluster, pile on and make somebody feel really badly about themselves. There must be some really deep-seated damage in these women but they don't recognise that about themselves so they'll just carry on. They're so legion that they are a tribe. A horrible but pointless tribe.

Sometimes quite too often I say something but today and every other day that I can manage, I will ignore them. Mumsnet would be better if everyone did ignore them, leave them to froth themselves into oblivion that won't be missed.

How arrogant you are. Thinking that your 'wise words' will help somebody.

Let me clue you in. Apart from the other wholly inadequate 'women' in your tribe, nobody is applauding you. They are looking at yours and the other finger-wagging posts and thinking, WTF?

Embarrassing for you that you so earnestly believe you are providing some sort of public service. You aren't. Just stop.

I used to think in the night garden had subliminal messages from some cult as sent my DD into a trance....can't say it's much different from north Korean propaganda...you do you OP... anything to get you through the day with a toddler....

Heh, how is it not possible?
How do you think it was done before TV?

The people who for some reason get really angry about hearing this are probably the ones who need to read up a bit more.

It’s like you can’t have a normal discussion anymore because people get so pissed off hearing other views or they become offended. Sad and weird.

Does it even occur to you that this is how quite a few would some up your post. You are not speaking for everyone. If anything this post is the most arrogant of them all..

Well, perhaps both of us should shut up and let the better speakers, the ones who don't antagonise and berate others, do the talking and educating.

You're certainly not speaking for me.

Why on earth are you so angry and telling people to shut up? This is a public chat forum ffs. I never said I was speaking for you. I don’t want to. Hope the rest of your day becomes better for you.

Do you believe you speak for anyone except yourself, or that I derive validation from what strangers on the internet think? ‘Embarrassing for you’ is such a pathetic phrase. I wouldn’t be ashamed to share this information with anyone in real life, why do you think I would be shamed by some anonymous person on the internet?

I believe it is in everyone’s interest to counter the current trend for ‘everyone’s opinion is valid’ and post-expert ‘information’.

The idea that women should blindly support each other regardless of how stupid or dangerous they are behaving is peak stupidity.

This was a lighthearted post, I’m sure, but when people are piling on to others because they are sharing things that could make the world a better place, and counter the harmful effects of technology creep, you don’t get to gate-keep comments - especially with some phrase that plays on a misogynist trope over female shame.

lol at them counting themselves as a better speaker.

So much anger. Have a cheery sing-song!

One, two, three ... 🎶 da da da da Kim Jong Un ..,. da da da da de da da ... da da da da Kim Jong Un ... de doo do do do da da ... 🎶

@Twofifty
Sorry, you are quite right.
I think this is the one I read
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3220824/

There is a suggested link about the constant clicking onto a new video ( which discourages sustained interest and ADHD traits.

I’m not saying it’s okay or it isn’t okay but what I am saying is that you’re a shitebag

imagine sitting on the internet calling someone else a shit parent to make yourself feel better. So sad.

oh the irony @TheAlchemy

Also I think my boss would not be happy for me to shut up, as I actually have spoken about this subject at parental meetings quite a few times. None of the parents reacted like you did, we had great discussions and no one was personally offended.

I have also had to talk to parents when their children have been referred to social services for neglect, as their children have had so much screen time they can barely put a sentence together by the age of four. I have had to teach parents how to physically read books to their children, as they claim they are not good at reading to them and simply can’t do it. This is not in a country where English is the first language, but these kids first words are English and it continues up till the age 4-5 because they get it from watching things on their iPad. They are bored with everything that does not include a screen.

This is normal educated parents, who want nothing but the best for their children but simply don’t understand the dangers with just giving your child an iPad. And no, I am not saying that this is OP. At all. But it is extremely important to talk about it.

I look after my under fives grandchildren four days a week. I would never allow them unfettered access to Youtube. I do let them watch CBeebies ( sometimes, not all the time) on the ipad in the car. it amuses me as they listen ( in the past week) to a programme about Eid. A musical performance of the Ginger Bread Man ( London Philharmonic Orchestra) and other brilliant programmes designed for small children.

There’s no irony because I would in fact say that to her face.

Why does a 17-month old have access to a tablet ? They are developping sensory skills in that age and are perfectly happy with toys and little books. This is utter madness if it's true.

There’s a lot of irony because i hadn’t even said anything about the OP, I was only pulling you up for your anti-English comment and stereotypical comments about the working class…or are you also happy to go and slag someone off in person for being English? If an English person had posted that comment about all Scottish people being x,y,z I’m sure you would have had something to say.

I don't agree that women should be blindly supported but do you honestly think this thread was that? That OP has her child in front of the TV or pad for hours a day? In fact, she made a point of saying that she was away for an evening. I took that at face value.

I use this board differently perhaps, it's a distraction. I'm not interested in gate-keeping, I just didn't like the 'crap parent' flavour of some of the posts and said so. Apologies mumsinnets that I suggested shutting up.

There’s no irony because I would in fact say that to her face.

Ah one of those ‘I tell it straight, it’s not my fault if people think I’m rude’ people are we? @TheAlchemy