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My baby has fallen victim to North Korean propaganda!

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sunnyinthevalley · 05/10/2024 23:26

I left my 17 month old baby at my mother's home when I went to a afternoon party with DH, and left DD17mo with my tablet, opened on the youtube app.

I come home, and some strange music is playing, and DD is clapping along happily and swaying a bit, and my mother is smiling, swaying along + cooking a casserole.

I peer at what's playing on the tablet, and it's this:

My current guess is that it appeared as a recommended video and DD tapped it (she's good with these things - even laptops!)

DM was singing 'key shown oon' along (she's not really in touch with current affairs/news, had no idea this was a dictator, and thought it was some sort of ad DD had looped.)

Then I was scrolling the BBC on my laptop, with DD beside me, and she sees Kim, and starts smiling and giggling.

I'm not sure if I should be irritated or amused Grin

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OP posts:
IdaPrentice · 06/10/2024 00:41

God, I remember in the old days of mumsnet when the responses to a thread like this would have been very funny. Not po-faced moralisers with a sense of humour failure.

Allthehorsesintheworld · 06/10/2024 00:41

and so did all our mothers!

Err, no, I didn’t.
Babies need sensory toys, textures, sounds they can make not just hear passively. Mine didn’t know we owned a TV until they were nearly school age.

Longdarkcloud · 06/10/2024 00:42

Such a jolly some and dance routine no wonder it appeals to toddlers. When one has no awareness of the words or political message it’s no different than an inane commercial.
I hope there aren’t any cartoons, however, because DD could learn basic Korean and you may then have a future problem !
I think it’s rather sweet that DD and her DGM can share the very occasional programme on your tablet. I feel the much larger TV screens are overbearing for little ones who often appear hypnotised.

Goxhound · 06/10/2024 00:42

theres always western propaganda that can be used to re-educate

Solent123 · 06/10/2024 00:44

Haven't read the thread but is this about the Teletubbies? I always suspected them.

LBFseBrom · 06/10/2024 00:47

sunnyinthevalley · 06/10/2024 00:25

Moonies are South Korea I think!

Oh right, I didn't know that, thank you. I should have known actually because I knew a couple of Moonies back in the day and learned about Sum Myung Moon at the time - but it was a long time ago.

Op, your daughter sounds delightful.

PontiacFirebird · 06/10/2024 00:48

For me it’s not really about the North Korean content- she’s a baby it’s just sounds and faces- it’s just the fact that all I see is parents giving their kids phones and tablets to shut them up. I just don’t actually think that’s funny and the fact that it’s apparently normal now seems bonkers to me.

Sethera · 06/10/2024 00:53

PontiacFirebird · 06/10/2024 00:48

For me it’s not really about the North Korean content- she’s a baby it’s just sounds and faces- it’s just the fact that all I see is parents giving their kids phones and tablets to shut them up. I just don’t actually think that’s funny and the fact that it’s apparently normal now seems bonkers to me.

OP was out at a party for one afternoon! She's allowed a social life!

pictoosh · 06/10/2024 00:54

God you lot, have a humour break.

Goinggreymammy · 06/10/2024 01:21

Sethera · 06/10/2024 00:53

OP was out at a party for one afternoon! She's allowed a social life!

None of the posters who are pointing out how it is not good for a 17month old to be sat in front of a tablet all afternoon are suggesting the OP does not go out. Nobody but herself suggested she should be "a perfect parent and carry her baby around all day". What pps HAVE suggested is that the amount of exposure to screens that OP says her baby gets is too much and it would be better to give her sensory toys or other age appropriate items or activities - where ever the baby is or who ever is minding her.

seedsandseeds · 06/10/2024 01:21

Choosenandenough · 06/10/2024 00:41

I hate mumsnet sometimes I really do. It suck’s the bloody life out of you.

This

AimieDaisy · 06/10/2024 01:36

Namechangedagain20 · 06/10/2024 00:01

I’m not really one for over concern on kids watching tele. All mine have done. But a 17 month old who's ‘good with these things - even laptops’ is really fucking sad. She’s a toddler, give her some toys instead.

No child that age needs to be using a phone or tablet or laptop, it fucks up their eyesight for a start, she will be more likely to need glasses. Our optician mentioned that more kids are being prescribed glasses these days due to screens. And there’s also evidence suggesting that the blue light from phones/tablets causes early onset puberty. Just stop using them and she will learn to entertain herself, or if you need her distracted for a short while just use the tv instead.

Oh be quiet

Twototwo15 · 06/10/2024 01:42

Allthehorsesintheworld · 06/10/2024 00:41

and so did all our mothers!

Err, no, I didn’t.
Babies need sensory toys, textures, sounds they can make not just hear passively. Mine didn’t know we owned a TV until they were nearly school age.

It’s possible to watch a bit of TV and do all the other things. Many children have survived a bit of TV without becoming feral.

outdamnedspots · 06/10/2024 01:48

Why the fuck would you leave your dd with a tablet when she is a baby??

How do you think other parents managed before tablets????

anon4net · 06/10/2024 01:50

You gave me a good laugh @sunnyinthevalley this will be one of those funny family stories!

Kurokurosuke · 06/10/2024 02:04

Mamma2346 · 05/10/2024 23:46

It's really not funny. If you have to use YouTube then use YouTube Kids and only make approved videos available - blippi and nursery rhymes or whatever. YouTube is a slippery slope and your baby could be tapping on all kinds of inappropriate and scary rubbish. There's no end of parents who complain that their small kids are addicted and influenced by YouTubers. It's best to lock down your devices as much and as early as possible.

Clearly you have not researched Blippi properly...

Amazing that a funny anecdote can end it the vilification of a mum. The story was "my kid accidentaly watched Korean propaganda" not "my baby is a YouTube addict"

The NK tunes are catchy, as catchy as your average nursery rhymes/tales. Also, have you ever paid attention to them? if you listen to the words, they are probably equally as violent. babies falling out of trees, mice being attacked with knives. Kids being abducted and put in ovens!!!

man, Kim Jung is a pacifist in comparison

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 02:08

This site (or at least, AIBU) really has just become a place where people come to be horrible to random women.

MotherofAllMatriarchs · 06/10/2024 02:10

I’d be surprised if Kim Jong Un‘s not a Mumsnetter.

It’s not for nothing they call it the nest of vipers and I can imagine him blowing off steam in AIBU.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 06/10/2024 02:26

MotherofAllMatriarchs · 06/10/2024 02:10

I’d be surprised if Kim Jong Un‘s not a Mumsnetter.

It’s not for nothing they call it the nest of vipers and I can imagine him blowing off steam in AIBU.

Such as:
My uncle didn't applaud with enough enthusiasm when I gave a speech yesterday. I am planning on a public execution. AIBU? 🤔

ATenShun · 06/10/2024 02:34

With your child obviously being so easily indocrinated by ridiculous propaganda, I urge you not to let her watch anything on the BBC. Have you seen the rubbish many in our population fall for watching it's news. 😆

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lemmein · 06/10/2024 02:52

Allthehorsesintheworld · 06/10/2024 00:41

and so did all our mothers!

Err, no, I didn’t.
Babies need sensory toys, textures, sounds they can make not just hear passively. Mine didn’t know we owned a TV until they were nearly school age.

If you had to sum up mumsnet in one post this would be it.

My kids were the teletubby generation when the daily mail was constantly reporting that children subjected to such trashy tv would grow up to be little thickos who couldn't master words longer than 2 syllables!

Frankly OP, at my most desperate times I would've happily put 'daddy Kim' on for the kids if it gave me 5 minutes peace - save that video, you know you're going to need it again soon Grin

TheAlchemy · 06/10/2024 03:23

The irony is that everyone having a go st the OP is spouting some of the most chronically online nonsense I’ve seen. Stop taking your parenting info from the internet, get outside and touch some grass and stop judging everybody else. It has zero impact on you or your kids and if it’s what you need for a self esteem boost then you’ve got a really sad little life.

Oldseagull · 06/10/2024 03:45

Youtube has been locked with a pin in this house (some of the educational videos and pod casts are actually quite good!) since the dc were very young.

I'm no gentle parent, nor am I parent of the year.

But when I walked back in from work to see dd watching cartoon pepper pig being bent over while George's head was being sawed off, I figured out pretty quickly that youtube isn't something you should ever leave an unattended child around.

littleredcaravan · 06/10/2024 03:51

Chateauneufdu · 05/10/2024 23:40

You leave a baby in front of the television?

Did you misunderstand?

She said she leaves her baby infront of the tv sometimes, not that she gives them crack cocaine.

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