How on earth are we allowing porn like this to access

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Surely aggressive and violent porn and all the other filth must be affecting people? I worry so much about what children get to see. Surely it must have an effect on men, it’s just so shocking the things that are out there.
We never had access to this before, just some magazines, Page 3, a few videos…what’s available now surely must have a psychological affect on people

I just think it's fascinating that a man is so dead set on defending porn consumption. You don't seem to care at all about of the points raised here by women. As long as you can get your rocks off eh?

I'm not in anyway "naive", I just don't accept hyperbole and sweeping statements unconditionally.

ATenShun is a bloke? Figures.

It's been known for years that many sex workers including those in porn, are survivors of child abuse. Many ex porn actresses have spoken of the trauma, dissociation and drug use needed in order to work in the industry.

Its so screwed up and the biggest sites are complicit

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/04/opinion/sunday/pornhub-rape-trafficking.html

I'm from New Zealand with family in politics. My Aunt told me of visiting a MP and his wife in their home for dinner. After they all ate he disappeared. My Aunt and her husband asked where he went to? His wife told them he would be down in the basement watching porn. He does it every day.

They were horrified.

Please never ever refer to child abuse as porn . It is a disgusting and ignorant thing to say

well, considering a large majority of men watch it, a decent number of women too, and the majority of regular users are men, there will be plenty of people here on this thread who are regular watchers

they like it

they don't want to stop

so they're gonna rationalise and minimise, then tell the rest of us off for "pearl clutching"

This.

Every day when I go outside and am amongst strangers, I wonder, how many of them regularly watch violent porn. And most of it nowadays is violent. The things done to women in regular porn; gagging, choking, hair pulling, slapping, ejaculating on faces, it's all so utterly disgusting.

I know men around me watch this stuff and like it. I'm utterly disgusted by them. I hate that I have to move through the world amongst them.

As a survivor of CSA it's bloody uncomfortable at best...

I have a niece at uni. She and her friends will not date guys, since high school. They complain almost all the boys watch porn and they don't want to have anything to do with them.

I think this may be a big part of our declining birth rates. Women are increasingly turned off by men as men become addicted to porn.

Luckily not all men, but enough to put me off dating ever again if I was to be left a widow.

Are you able to show the amount campaigning agaisnt porn now as a comparison of the numbers in the industry?

@Surf2Live
As you like a number of others on this site only parade the most extreme sex as the go to for chastising any porn use. How many viewers are actually using that particular genre compared to others.

@theresabluebirdinmyheart
Yes I do mean police, social services, schools. You want something done about it then give the child and more so the parent the responsibility of raising and looking after their child. After all, if a child was caught stealing from a shop the authorities would be informed. Why is the crime of viewing porn not the parents problem?

Those of you accusing me and others of being blase, none of you seem willing to take the steps to deal with children viewing it.

Someone made a comment above that children, by the time they reach the end of primary school, would have seen pornography. Is this actually true?

My son just started Reception. I certainly have no plans to provide him with any kind of mobile phone until he is at least secondary school age, but my question is are primary age kids having phones that can access the internet by some parents? And if so, can't all of those types of sites be locked out by using parental controls?

The thought of my son seeing this stuff at any point horrifies me but the idea he could see it within the next few years makes me feel sick.

Yes. It's been reported that primary school children are addicted to porn and acting it out in school. Their parents should be prosecuted for neglect and yes, you can block illicit websites easily.

I work in mental health and yes, this extreme porn messes up people’s brains.
There’s no defence for it - if that kind of weird, violent shit is your kink, use your imagination or find a consenting, willing partner.
The amount of extreme, violent porn shows a highly damaged society, not proof that it should be widely available because there is ‘demand’. I’d go as far to say that anyone trying to defend or normalise it hasn’t quite recognised their own mental health problems.

@ATenShun you seriously think police or social services have resources to do anything about it?
Even people caught viewing child abuse online get a slap on the wrist (ie. Huw Edwards), you’re living in a dream world.

My issue isn’t only with pornography being readily available for kids to see it’s the fact it’s even made in the first place anyway.

Yes. This.

I have a friend who works in safeguarding and she told me of more than one horrific incidents in primary schools clearly influenced by exposure to porn. (Not all the kids involved but usually one instigator). Teachers reported it but all that happened was told social services were “aware”.

Firstly the authorities resources or lack thereof, really isn't the problem of the reporter. You say you want all porn removed. As it happens there are some things that are legal I would prefer to be removed. But as this thread is primarily about children accessing it, lets be sensible and use the weapons available to us to stop that happening.

That is have the grown ups parent their kids and deal with illegal behaviour, and restrict their ability to access the internet. This would do their mental health no end of good. No social media, no constant screen time etc.

Can you suggest any realistic workable solutions?

@ATenShun But this thread isn’t primarily about children accessing it? People keep telling you that and talking about all the other negative aspects of porn too…you don’t seem to want to think about it…

just ban it all, simple.

Exactly how do you ban the internet? The dark web? Control individuals who share on porn hub? The answer is you can't so you need to use societal influencing factors.

What that looks like I don't know. But I believe we have the capacity to corrupt for the positive. In Ireland we have a citizens assembly, a 100 people representing society and they collectively work with subject matter experts to tackle big societal issues, e.g. drugs.

I think national and international forums would be a good start. It's a universal problem so the solution needs to be universal.

You don't need to ban the internet. Just ban porn. If we can ban child porn and animal porn, we can ban all porn.

No one's talking about banning the internet. It's not difficult block websites and images. Brazil blocked Twitter. Lots of countries block porn and we already block illegal content.

@candlewhickgreen the dark web exists believing anything is inaccessible is exceptionally naive. No IT person with a tiny bit of knowledge can get around the blocks short of a china approach and that's never gonna be a runner.

How many people know how to access the dark web? Do you think children do?

Well going in the information event I was at for professionals, they don't need to. Adults do and share content on WhatsApp, Snapchat etc. the images could be screen grabs etc.

To be honest they don't have to go to the dark web for 90% if horrific content.