How on earth are we allowing porn like this to access

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Surely aggressive and violent porn and all the other filth must be affecting people? I worry so much about what children get to see. Surely it must have an effect on men, it’s just so shocking the things that are out there.
We never had access to this before, just some magazines, Page 3, a few videos…what’s available now surely must have a psychological affect on people

There is no need to access the "dark web" to view any of this stuff.

The things you allude to earlier, Brazil's Twitter block and so on, are relatively simple to engineer because it's one singular domain. It's also simple to circumvent, but it's effective enough in preventing the most rudimentary ways of accessing that site from functioning.

Blocks on specific content only work if you know which sites the content appears on, and unfortunately, for every obvious candidate like "Pornhub", there are thousands of lesser known pages that still show the exact same content, that can still be accessed freely, and will continually evade all attempts to block them. So yes, you might restrict the ability to view that content on some pages, but it's still going to be easily accessed on others.

"Bans" and "blocks" on internet content are totally impractical, will never be comprehensive enough to actually prevent access to content as intended, and even the most draconian ones still do not prevent people from accessing what they want to access. China is notorious for State policing and censorship of the internet, but people in China still routinely view the exact content the Chinese government is going all out to prevent them seeing. Sledgehammer approaches to policing the internet simply do not work, because the internet can not be policed effectively due to it's very nature.

Much of the content that is supposedly "blocked" in the UK is no such thing, and no, you don't need special browsers or clients to access it. ISP's pay lip-service to government demands, but in reality even the government understands that it's impossible to force ISP's to censor the internet on government's behalf, so they'll make a half-hearted attempt to restrict access to the most commonly sought domains, while doing nothing about the hundreds, or thousands of others which are just as easily accessed and host the exact same "blocked" content.

You can petition all you like for bans and blocks, but the reality is, no single government has the ability to enact any effective block on content due to the fact it can not control how and where that content is hosted, and they also have no ability whatsoever to force compliance from any host, operator, or user outside of their own legal jurisdiction, so in the meantime, the only thing that can really be done is to more heavily restrict, monitor, and police children's internet usage, even if that means removing their access to smartphones and so on.

This is a huge over-simplification.

The reason most common porn sites are not flooded with CSA images and images of animal abuse is because the majority of governments the world over, and indeed, the majority of people the world over, agree that this sort of thing is utterly unfit to be viewed by anyone, and therefore legislation prohibiting it is rather widespread, and even if it was not, there would be widespread personal reluctance on the behalf of individuals and companies to host it openly in any case.

This does not mean it is not freely available on the regular internet, it absolutely is, it just means it's nowhere near as prevalent as typical pornography, and you have to dig a bit more to find it.

In order to reach a stage whereby what is currently considered mainstream pornography is in the same boat, that would also require the vast majority of governments the world over to legislate against it, and the vast majority of people the world over to view in with the same distaste they have for the aforementioned CSA images and animal abuse images. I totally accept that is a noble goal and an ultimate aim, but it's not something that is anywhere remotely close, and it's not something that can be attained by simply "banning porn" because CSA images are already banned and animal abuse images are already banned.

One country acting unilaterally wouldn't make the blindest bit of difference, so the issue is how to foster some sort of universal consensus, and good luck with selling that in countries where individual liberty is sacrosanct, to the point whereby it's entrenched in their constitutions.

No, I'm mentioning what is regular mainstream porn.

Gagging women with peens, hands around their throats, ejaculating on their faces, anal sex. All totally normal mainstream on the major porn sites. And you KNOW it.

Stop lying.

We can all see you trying to minimise and justify your porn use Sir. We see you.

Just block the entire internet then permit individual sites. Instead of permitting everything and then trying to play whack a mole with the dodgy sites that pop up.

I'd start by putting it all behind a paywall. No more free porn. Harder for kids to access, and men are accountable for what they watch. Easy to implement, and better than nothing.

So what you're saying is that child abuse images are freely available, easy to access and anyone can find them? I wasn't aware of that. I thought they were blocked and only available from the dark web or dodgy paedophiles.

@Fluufer that would be my option too and don't allow prepaid cards to be sold to under 18s

You can see what you like. The reality is that what you describe is a tiny percentage of what is out there. Personally I don't like it, and wouldn't mourn it being removed.

But as a PP said It would be impossible to restrict the internet even if you made certain subjects illegal in the UK, If at the same time they remain legal overseas.

Also why take such a draconian approach towards all content. By that reasoning it could be argued that all horror movies need to go. 50 Shades, hell no that is disgusting filth. What about Gone in Sixty Seconds or Grand theft auto. Should they be banned as it is turning everyone into murdering car thieves.

Then do we ban the sex acts that don't fit in with what you consider seemly. What if a woman actually likes eg anal sex. I had an ex that preferred it to vaginal. Or women that have a liking for being ejaculated on. Again over the years I have met women who really enjoyed it.

By all means restrict what you and your children watch. But leave the rest of us to be adult enough to have the self control to make our own decisions.

It's not a tiny minority at all and you know it.
If you're all such responsible porn consumers, with abundant self control you could manage without it. Or pay for it. And we wouldn't to have this debate. But you can't can you?

I don't know what kind of sites the poster visits but Porn hub is chock full of degradation and violence. That's without knowing the legality of the actors eg trafficked or coerced.

Exactly. It's on the homepage, the videos being watched right now by men in the UK. It's just vile, and they become immune to it. He thinks it's normal because he consumes so much of it, those of us who don't, see it for what it really is.

You have no idea what I or anyone else looks at, nor to what extent. You are just throwing out unsubstantiated false rhetoric in the vain hope the rest of the world will agree with you.

We do actually, not you perhaps, but statistics are out there. Pornhub for example, does a "year in review", both international and for individual countries. Have a look at actual studies, internet search patterns, viewing behaviour, patterns of consumption. Have a think about why men use men so much more pornography than women, the language used etc.
If you're so confident in your own responsible porn consumption, you should have no problem objectively exploring this information.

The one where by a vast margin shows lesbian or milf porn as the most popular? The one where ejaculation or humiliation doesn't even show in their top viewed categories. In fact the only category you seem to disapprove of anal, is third from bottom of their list.

How about the statistic on there that shows women search for rough sex more by a margin of 34% than men.

Not really supporting your argument is it.

Yes by high school a lot of children understand the concept of VPN’s and the dark web. It’s actually as easy as downloading a different browser (and knowing or being given an address).

And it only takes one person to find it, then it gets shared round 1/2 the year group in a few hours.

So are children accessing child abuse images?

I’m not IT expert so can’t really comment on how hard it is to block sites etc but porn of any kind is illegal in Dubai, Saudi Arabia. It might not stop it entirely but im willing to bet kids at primary school there aren’t sharing videos of gangbangs in the playground. Because it’s not so widely and freely available.

You can only access them through VPN. Using VPN is also illegal in UAE, which can invite you heavy penalty and fines.

But I seriously doubt that stops people. Remember children are more likely to not be on the sites the research last time quoted in my training was screen grabs doing the rounds.

I know it wouldn’t stop people I said that , I said it makes it harder for children to access it. Alcohol also heavily regulated in UAE countries so would imagine not many 13 years olds coming home pissed there either. Unlike Britain. The more widely available and normalised things are, the easier kids can get hold of it and want to try it for themselves.

You do realise that they don’t actually steal cars during Gone in Sixty Seconds, don’t you? What an imbecilic, yet totally unsurprising, argument.

@ATenShun guys love to claim they “used to know a woman who loves anal more than vaginal” or “my ex loved it, couldn’t get enough of it” blah blah. Comes across like some kinda weird flex tbh.

How many people know how to access the dark web? Do you think children do?

Im currently aware of 2 teenage children who have been arrested and have been bailed under investigation.

One teen, groomed from age 12/13 from multiple website including discord “black web” meta, snapchat, instagram, extreme BDSM forums and teen-chat.org.. to name a few…

Parents contacted school, children’s services and police and not one service was interested, police didn’t even investigate, police officer completely disinterested and ignored parents pleas for help, children services not interested as child from a good background.

School useless. primary and secondary sex education missed due to Covid.

The child is extremely desensitised to all pornography, child now been arrested for distribution of child illicit images on discord, the same links the groomers sent the child, child is now been treated as a perpetrator rather than a victim.

Children’s services now supporting family in need, they’ve now admitted fault, only because it’s reached crisis point however it’s came too late.

Child who all services failed will now likely have a criminal record.

Parents are absolutely beside themselves, parents had parental control on home internet and all devices, checked the child’s phone regularly, however the teen chats and discord gamer sites that they believed were safe, where where the child was being groomed, child porn links bypassing parental controls from the discord dark web!

The other teen, sending videos and images of themselves as the groomer threaten to send the images to their families and friends…

Absolutely insane world we live in.

You do realise that the actors in the porn films are not actually plumber and helpless housewife etc. Censorship is censorship, if we were to start censoring legal content, it leaves the door open to anyone claiming all sorts offed them and shouldn't exist.

@theresabluebirdinmyheart
I'm not boasting. As I say it was something I could take or leave. Personally preferred vaginal.

Now you may only want as example missionary position with the lights off and only on high days and holidays. That is entirely up to you. It doesn't mean that another woman who loves to be in a rope swing is wrong either.

@HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend
What your post has just shown it is not necessarily adult sites that are the issue. Social media and children having unsupervised access to it and the net is the problem on both occasions. Having dumb phones & the laptop in the family room where what they are looking at can be viewed by parents would stop it right away. Unlikely to send a nude when Mum is watching Coronation Street right behind you.

Can Atenshun be banned please? They are clearly a man and clearly pro-porn and anti-women.

Why would being male be a reason to ban? At no pont have I made anti women posts. I am pro freedom not pro porn, providing it is legal it isn't up to anyone else to say what another can say or do. Don't like the fact it is legal, contact your MP and have it raised in parliament.