To be disgusted by the Deafening Silence of Celebrities in the wake of Diddy allegations?

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I can't be the only one who's deeply troubled by the silence from certain A-list celebrities following the recent allegations against Sean Combs aka Diddy. It's been weeks since the news broke, and the lack of response from some of his closest associates in the industry is, quite frankly, disturbing.

Let's talk about Jay-Z and Beyoncé, for instance. These two have been thick as thieves with him for years. Countless collaborations, public appearances, and even vacations together. And now? Radio silence. Not even a peep about condemning the alleged actions or distancing themselves from him. It's baffling.

Ashton Kutcher is another one who's keeping silent. Given his vocal stance against human trafficking and exploitation, you'd think he'd be the first to speak up. But nope, nothing.

Now, I want to tread carefully when it comes to Usher and Justin Bieber. There's been speculation about their own experiences, and if they were indeed victims themselves, I absolutely respect their right to process this privately. No one should be forced to relive trauma or speak out if they're not ready.

But for those who weren't victimised? Their silence is deafening. How hard is it to release a statement saying, "I don't condone these actions" or "I had no knowledge of these alleged crimes"? Anything would be better than this awkward void.

I'm honestly shocked that there hasn't been more public backlash against these silent celebrities. In an era where "cancel culture" can be triggered by a misplaced tweet, how are they getting a free pass? Having your longtime friend and associate arrested on such serious charges, and you can't even muster up a word of condemnation? It's beyond disappointing.

What do you all think? Am I being too harsh, or is this silence truly inexcusable? Should we, as consumers and fans, be demanding more accountability from these public figures?

I agree with this. They are implicated to a certain extent because they must have witnessed things.

I also suspect he has dirt on them- it might not be as serious as the criminal stuff he has been accused of but I am sure he knows things about them that they do not want broadcasting in the public eye.

For anyone who thinks Beyonce is innocent just because she's a woman, I guess you also think she had nothing to do with the death of Cathy Koreana White. That's the one that they'll be shitting about the most, cos Diddy is said to be ready to sing like a canary about that one!

Who is Cathy white and what does Beyoncé have to do with that?

this is a Huge rabbit hole on this thread. I’m surprised the mods are letting it stand

I’d missed this on the news, even though I read the news every day. It’s been very focused on Lebanon this week and also Sudan.

She was woman who Jay Z was having an affair with and was found dead, pregnant, the day before Beyonce announced her pregnancy. She was going to go public with the affair and the pregnancy at the VMAs and the day before they happened she was dead. Diddy says he has the evidence of both of their involvement. It's heavily suggested Z also had a hand in Aaliyah's death, bit but I don't think anyone can prove that one.
He said he's ready to take down the House of Carter.

I do not believe that PD is top of the tree. Neither was Epstein.

This has been on twitter for years- why now?

There's been rumours about how Justin was treated for years. I don't blame him for turning his back on the industry, I hope he's in a much better place these days.

Diddy was always implicated in the Tupac and Biggie shootings. Even in the 90's, with no social media, that had trickled out.

It started getting a bit ridiculous at the Jamie Foxx poisoning part!

It's been on more than Twitter, it's been an open secret everywhere since Pac and Biggie were murdered, loads have spoken or at least alluded to it. I do wonder why now too, Diddy is definitely being made the scapegoat for people doing the same and worse than him. I'm guessing they thought he wouldn't be a grass or I'd imagine they'd have had him whacked.
He is conveniently on suicide watch and Suge said there will be people willing to make a name for themselves inside. He'll be Epsteined if he keeps talking.

Katt Williams did a a few skits on industry parties which allegedly caused the damage to his career. He also blatantly called Diddy out and said he would be exposed just before this all came to light publicly.

Katt Williams has done so many times on you-tube.

Wait till 50 cents documentary
Diddy He Do It launches

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Wow - I have just spent an hour googling and reading up on some of what’s been said on this thread…

I could spend all day reading it!

scary shit going on

I'm not sure why some posters feel this story is irrelevant for Mumsnet. If you're a millennial, unless you lived under a rock, Diddy was one of the biggest stars of the 90s and 2000s. He featured on many songs with major artists like Jennifer Lopez, Usher, Notorious B.I.G., Mariah Carey, and Beyoncé, just to name a few.

Something tells me if the thread had been about Taylor Swift, no one would call it irrelevant - and she's also in the US. Same goes for the Harvey Weinstein scandal, which people seemed interested in despite it being US-centric.

As another poster pointed out, this could be the start of the fall of a whole industry of people, making it very relevant indeed. We might be witnessing a major shift in the music industry, similar to what happened in Hollywood after Weinstein.

Is the disinterest actually code for something else? Why are we applying different standards of "relevance" to different stories or personalities?

@EvilNextDoor yes exactly! Very relevant despite what some posters think. It's potentially literally a whole industry of people under threat

I am far too old to be a millennial, but still feel it is of interest. For me not so much the actual individuals but rather how all this can happen in plain sight, the mechanisms that protect people with money and power.

Exactly.

I’m not a fan of rap and Gen X but there’s many young UK people who support the artists through attending concerts and listening to the music. You can watch videos of the huge crowds of young people in the UK listening to grime stars at music festivals to see that it’s not so niche and dominated by young people. It’s easy to imagine how young UK men and women could end up at a party hosted by a US star considering the international nature of the music business and people seemingly willing to provide victims to the predators in order to get ahead.

Lots of very big names are quaking right now. If this goes to trial, Diddy won’t go down alone

If anyone wants to know some of what they've been getting away with, look up Trafficking Survivor talks about Diddy Parties.

Warning thoug, it's a painful watch as you can see the woman reliving it, and this is about kids who are in the system being abused. It's important that the general public understand what these powerful people are getting away with behind the smoke and mirrors of celebrity.

I think the celebrities who are remaining silent will fall into two camps, those holding their breath wondering if/when they will be named as
co-defendents and those who have watched him get away with it for years and don't yet believe he will actually face punishment so they are not going to to anything to damage their own careers right now.

Lots of people have filed complaints against him since the footage of him assaulting Cassie became public. That footage made it harder for him to argue he was a good guy and people were just out to destroy his reputation and make money.He will have been enabled and protected by other very powerful people but perhaps they reached a point where they felt he was more of a liability than an asset and have decided to let the law take It course.

He's been very public about his intention to testify, to me that sounds like an appeal to powerful people that now is the time to do something to get him out of jail or all of their secrets will be revealed. I think after what happened to Epstein he will likely have insurance against "taking his own life".

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Totally agree
Let is all he honest. The lack of interest from some posters is because Diddy is a black American rapper.
I am a white , middle aged English woman and I am very interested in this because of the
potential fallout
Alleged sex trafficking, blackmail, bribery, rape, criminal damage, assault are some of the charges.
The day that Diddy was charged about twelve people connected to the industry stepped down from their roles. Something fishy is going on.

He has obviously burned his bridges with some people and they are determined to bring him down.

If he's done even half of the stuff he's been accused of, he's essentially a real-life supervillain. Blowing up Kid Cudi's car? Killing a surgeon because he refused to remove his girlfriend's breast implants after one day? It's crazy.

I expect they have been advised to keep schtum for now. Anything they say can be used.

When it all came out, or started to, about Jeffrey Epstein I looked at lots of news reports, docs and interviews with people involved with him. I don't really like that sort of thing but it was buzzing everywhere and I wanted to get facts if possible so if it was talked about, I had something valid to say. I went over some things twice.

There were several people, mainly men and some quite young, who Epstein had helped in their careers or business, he was extremely influential, had many contacts in all sorts of spheres. They were vocal and quite outraged that he was being accused of all these things, didn't believe it, he had been so good to them, etc. That despite the fact he had a conviction but they thought he was innocent, took a plea as the easiest way out. They were so loyal! I was quite surprised at it all, some were really upset and hurt on his behalf. However I knew nothing about Epstein then. I realised later how insidiously manipulative and plausible he was, anyone could have been sucked in, and his particularly heinous activities were hidden in plain sight.

I have no doubt people have learned from that, that it's better to keep quiet if you can. Also of note that Diddy refuses to take a plea.

I'm glad never to have known either.