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To be disgusted by the Deafening Silence of Celebrities in the wake of Diddy allegations?

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notaurewhatusername · 29/09/2024 21:01

I can't be the only one who's deeply troubled by the silence from certain A-list celebrities following the recent allegations against Sean Combs aka Diddy. It's been weeks since the news broke, and the lack of response from some of his closest associates in the industry is, quite frankly, disturbing.

Let's talk about Jay-Z and Beyoncé, for instance. These two have been thick as thieves with him for years. Countless collaborations, public appearances, and even vacations together. And now? Radio silence. Not even a peep about condemning the alleged actions or distancing themselves from him. It's baffling.

Ashton Kutcher is another one who's keeping silent. Given his vocal stance against human trafficking and exploitation, you'd think he'd be the first to speak up. But nope, nothing.

Now, I want to tread carefully when it comes to Usher and Justin Bieber. There's been speculation about their own experiences, and if they were indeed victims themselves, I absolutely respect their right to process this privately. No one should be forced to relive trauma or speak out if they're not ready.

But for those who weren't victimised? Their silence is deafening. How hard is it to release a statement saying, "I don't condone these actions" or "I had no knowledge of these alleged crimes"? Anything would be better than this awkward void.

I'm honestly shocked that there hasn't been more public backlash against these silent celebrities. In an era where "cancel culture" can be triggered by a misplaced tweet, how are they getting a free pass? Having your longtime friend and associate arrested on such serious charges, and you can't even muster up a word of condemnation? It's beyond disappointing.

What do you all think? Am I being too harsh, or is this silence truly inexcusable? Should we, as consumers and fans, be demanding more accountability from these public figures?

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Puttheneedleontherackets · 02/10/2024 23:25

Where can I see honest news on this? I can’t find anything really on U.K. news, so odd

Josette77 · 02/10/2024 23:27

Puttheneedleontherackets · 02/10/2024 23:24

@Josette77 No, sorry I mean the rumours about Jlo and M&H and things with kids etc, the mire extreme things I suppose

Ah, gotcha..

It's definitely a lot to take in.

I'm in Canada and our news is saying apparently Denzel and his wife were at an all night party and saw something bad. Denzel allegedly yelled at Diddy that he doesn't respect anyone and they left.

Demonhunter · 02/10/2024 23:56

Puttheneedleontherackets · 02/10/2024 23:24

@Josette77 No, sorry I mean the rumours about Jlo and M&H and things with kids etc, the mire extreme things I suppose

It's people who WERE kids there who have come forward too.

Puttheneedleontherackets · 03/10/2024 00:27

@Demonhunter Wbere does it say all this info?
Ive just watched Piers Morgan uncovered which was interesting

TempestTost · 03/10/2024 01:24

Puttheneedleontherackets · 02/10/2024 14:28

Is Cuba gay? Just reading up on him and there were some allegations against women a few years back

I don't think terms like gay and straight are really relevant to these people. They see sex as a hobby and will do anything that scratches an inch, especially if it is transgressive.

TempestTost · 03/10/2024 01:32

Puttheneedleontherackets · 03/10/2024 00:27

@Demonhunter Wbere does it say all this info?
Ive just watched Piers Morgan uncovered which was interesting

I think that a long with whatever has really happened, all of which seems horrible enough, there is a lot of made up speculation. I don't quite understand why people are so sure no one would ever make up or exaggerate that kind of thing.

FOJN · 03/10/2024 04:27

Puttheneedleontherackets · 02/10/2024 23:25

Where can I see honest news on this? I can’t find anything really on U.K. news, so odd

I think we'll have to wait for the trial and lawsuits to get more reliable information. At the moment there is lots of speculation based on rumours that have existed for years.

Violence, non consensual sex and drugging seem to be common themes so I would treat those allegations as having some truth to them.

He also seems to have recorded lots of his crimes so his own video library will provide corroboration for some of the allegations.

yesmen · 03/10/2024 06:14

Epstein was supposed to have cameras all over the place and lots of recordings.

No names came out really.

The were pictures of Ehud Olmert closing the door, PA obv but no others.

I wonder if the same will happen with this?

yesmen · 03/10/2024 06:16

This is really a horror story.

Something that is not being discussed is the amount of artists he sigend to terrible deals, who made tons of money for him but were left with very little.

And if some of the reports are to be believed industry execs from Sony, Clive Davis and so really facillitated him.

Outnumberedmummy2022 · 03/10/2024 06:52

Puttheneedleontherackets · 02/10/2024 23:25

Where can I see honest news on this? I can’t find anything really on U.K. news, so odd

honesty the news show you what they want. I stopped watching years ago. Do you own research follow a multitude of different lesser known journalists- house in habit is a good start on instagram she is called Jessica.
ypu won’t find much on fb or insta however because it’s heavily filtered. X, tik tok are your best points.
prince Andrew was involved, a lot of royals, politicians etc. nothing is what it seems and the more you look into it the more shocking it is.
the biggest name who has also been outed for me is tom hanks.

you tube katt Williams, you tube spiritual cooking lady gaga. You tube Beyoncé and aliyah death.
YouTube adrenochrome and kids.

literally just the surface. It will horrify you. But the truth comes out and good will always prevail.

Outnumberedmummy2022 · 03/10/2024 06:57

Fanonhighest · 02/10/2024 22:06

I’ve been following the story for a while and am
gobsmacked and saddened to be honest. Hollywood really is so corrupt and evil.

I’m really surprised it’s not really being reported about over here?! I assume once these ‘big names’ are outed in the next couple of months, it’ll become more of a story?!

It’s making me Q so many celebs that historically I’ve liked and follow on socials.

Las Vegas is even worse….

Outnumberedmummy2022 · 03/10/2024 07:00

Puttheneedleontherackets · 02/10/2024 22:13

@Outnumberedmummy2022 That can’t be true, where did it say that, like something out of a nightmare of kids involved

You will find several sources on x, YouTube, tik tok.
the heart of sex trafficking of children is in Ukraine- there’s a politician who knows this and has tried to stop it, Putin.
the likes of trump, Biden, Obama etc all have been pictured with these young girls at these parties. Puts a VERY different spin on what our media release to us doesn’t it.

Outnumberedmummy2022 · 03/10/2024 07:04

Puttheneedleontherackets · 02/10/2024 23:17

But surely a lot of it is bs?

A lot easier to think this. When I first started looking into not just this but cases from years ago and the celebs heavily involved it just sickens you. But once you find out the truth you want to know more and the truth is just awful. So unless your prepared for everything you thought you knew to be flipped- just avoid it x

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 03/10/2024 07:35

This is risking becoming a thread for the tin hats.

I agree that the MSM only post what suits them and it is important to find other sources, but equally it is important to remember that anyone can post anything on the internet and claim it as fact.

ABC news which you can watch on YouTube had a segment on it and there is a program on Hulu but I've not seen it. These programs will have been checked by lawyers so more reliable.

Outnumberedmummy2022 · 03/10/2024 07:40

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 03/10/2024 07:35

This is risking becoming a thread for the tin hats.

I agree that the MSM only post what suits them and it is important to find other sources, but equally it is important to remember that anyone can post anything on the internet and claim it as fact.

ABC news which you can watch on YouTube had a segment on it and there is a program on Hulu but I've not seen it. These programs will have been checked by lawyers so more reliable.

Calling us tin hats doesn’t change the truth does it?
so far it has been a healthy discussion of varying opinions- was only a matter of time before someone like you popped up.
we have provided names, sources, just as you did with ABC news. I could call you gullible and very nieve. But I won’t.
have a nice day.

Outnumberedmummy2022 · 03/10/2024 07:44

Outnumberedmummy2022 · 03/10/2024 07:40

Calling us tin hats doesn’t change the truth does it?
so far it has been a healthy discussion of varying opinions- was only a matter of time before someone like you popped up.
we have provided names, sources, just as you did with ABC news. I could call you gullible and very nieve. But I won’t.
have a nice day.

sorry just to follow up…. ‘They will have been checked by lawyers so will be more reliable’

alot of these lawyers are also corrupt. Cps has allegedly provided some of these children so this is not a reach at all.

imagine calling people tin hats because they are expressing a view on what has happened due to their own independent research over years- you are quoting what the news has fed you.

and before anyone says ‘lawyers are not corrupt’ the very nature of this thread proves we don’t really know ANYONE.

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 03/10/2024 07:55

Unfortunately @Outnumberedmummy2022 your replies confirms my initial suspicion.

Any way I do not wish to derail the thread, and I believe strongly that this topic needs discussing and keeping in the public eye as that is the only chance that any justice will happen.

The most horrifying thing for me is the people that knew that didn't report.

Wayne Rooney is being mentioned in the media today .

Demonhunter · 03/10/2024 08:07

Just to add to what @outnumberedmummy2022 has said too, this isn't a rabbit hole we've gone down from reading this thread, the people we've mentioned have been talking about it for years, the West Coast hip hop lot have been alluding to it for years, certain comedians on the circuit have spoken about it for years, many in the industry know what's going on, they just don't want to cause trouble with people who could have them killed by making 1 phone call.

LivelyPearlBee · 03/10/2024 08:16

At this point we have no idea who is likely involved or possibly going to be or are being, interviewed as potential witnesses. - you don’t need to have witnessed a crime to be called as a witness, you could have important information just from being at a party and seeing certain people there for example.

I also don't think celebrities should be expected to comment on anything either way tbh. And we've seen far too much over the last few years of celebrities being harassed and threatened on social media because they did.

Outnumberedmummy2022 · 03/10/2024 08:39

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 03/10/2024 07:55

Unfortunately @Outnumberedmummy2022 your replies confirms my initial suspicion.

Any way I do not wish to derail the thread, and I believe strongly that this topic needs discussing and keeping in the public eye as that is the only chance that any justice will happen.

The most horrifying thing for me is the people that knew that didn't report.

Wayne Rooney is being mentioned in the media today .

‘unfortunately your reply confirms my suspicions’
unfortunately for who? Not me me and demon hunter are enjoying our tin hat craft session.

but yes it absolutely should stay main stream, these people need holding accountable- but I fear diddy is being used as a cover up.

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 03/10/2024 08:51

Throughout history there has always been a grossly hedonistic 'elite' segment of a society. (Roman empire is a good example but look at any powerful civilisation or group throughout history and it's the same story over and over and over)

Money+power+being worshiped = god fucking knows what foul monsters their brains and souls get twisted into.

It's actually really scary to think that this is inside us as a species and it seemingly takes just a certain set of circumstances for people to lose any scrap of decency.

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 03/10/2024 08:52

I agree that Diddy and Epstein are most likely scapegoats - you don't get away with all that is being discussed, much of it widely known about, for years and then suddenly be held accountable. I am interested in why now? A pp said because of the DV recording but that doesn't seem to be enough of a reason.

I also agree with your point about lawyers, I don't believe anyone is beyond reproach, and I'm not passing judgement on any lawyers character or involvement but what is reported on the MSM has been checked by lawyers which in this instance must mean that they do not expect it to be libelous.

Puttheneedleontherackets · 03/10/2024 08:56

What do 50 cent and Eminem have against him, as in why do they speak up and others don’t? I wonder why they haven been got rid of by now

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 03/10/2024 08:56

It's actually really scary to think that this is inside us as a species and it seemingly takes just a certain set of circumstances for people to lose any scrap of decency.

Indeed. I would go as far as removing 'as a species' it is inside all of us.

Clearly shown in this case, firstly there are those that let all decency go but there must be hundreds of people that turned a blind eye- and that is another form of depravity - all to protect their status and wealth.

Demonhunter · 03/10/2024 09:04

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 03/10/2024 08:52

I agree that Diddy and Epstein are most likely scapegoats - you don't get away with all that is being discussed, much of it widely known about, for years and then suddenly be held accountable. I am interested in why now? A pp said because of the DV recording but that doesn't seem to be enough of a reason.

I also agree with your point about lawyers, I don't believe anyone is beyond reproach, and I'm not passing judgement on any lawyers character or involvement but what is reported on the MSM has been checked by lawyers which in this instance must mean that they do not expect it to be libelous.

If we're talking about libel, slander and defamation, ask yourself why they haven't gone after anyone in the last 20+ years, to stop the allegations and take suspicion off them?

Slim, 50, Snoop, Dame Dash, Jaguar, Katt, Dave C, Suge, Kid Cudi to name a few. They've been talking about it consistently since late 90s/early 00s. Slim even puts it in his lyrics which are never going to be erased. Even though MJB has been allegedly implicated early on, she has alluded about fucked up things that went on, again back in the early 00s.

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