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I love my kids but they have not turned out as I hoped

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Pepsimaz · 28/09/2024 17:57

I have young adult kids who live at home and I’ve brought them up alone as a single parent (with one day a week contact with their dad) his choice. I had a family who gave some help with childcare if I had to work, I worked part time and always tried to make sure I was there for them helping them doing home work and all the school pick ups. I had their friends round for sleepovers, gave them birthday parties, we had a nice life although on a budget with affordable UK break holidays. They always had clean clothes and food in the house and toys and stuff.

I supported them with their life choices to work retail jobs and not go to uni as I didn’t go to uni myself so no judgement on that. I didn’t have boyfriends move in. They used to help out in the house with chores and get pocket money and we were a team. I’ve done all the lifts here and there, helped them learn to drive. I wasn’t too strict or too lenient on them, they had rules in the house and would lose a device or be expected to apologise for bad behaviour.

the lockdown was the worst thing that happened to our relationship. They were hanging at home all day from college & 6th form with not much to do and I was juggling a very stressful job, the house, money and everything. I worried they were depressed so I tried to make sure they had help and support available to them but they started to act resentful and rude towards me and I probably resent them a bit too now.

I now feel trapped in my own home with rude and disrespectful brats who come and go as they please dropping shit everywhere and yelling at me if I ever ask them to help out. They do zero chores, they trash the house, blame each other for everything. From me going out to work for 9 hours I come back and feel depressed as the house stinks of old food, the bathroom is always disgusting, their rooms are a mess and they just come back home from work or friends, expect to use the washing machine and shower and mess up the kitchen then disappear for a few days. I clear it all up and then it’s nice for a day or 2 then back to being awful. When I try to talk to them they say well am never here, it was my sibling who did other or that they are too busy and have other things to do.

I am not important, I feel like a servant who is just trash to them. Whenever I try to tell them how I am feeling or why my time isn’t important too they just say I’m selfish and make everything about me. I don’t even have high standards. They won’t leave I’ve asked them to move out. I’ve added up that I cleaned up all this mess on Tuesday, Thursday and today and it took about 2-3 hours each time. This involves bleaching the bathroom which is covered in hair, toothpaste, splats of all their products up the walls and mirrors, hoovering the downstairs but first I have to pick everything up like trash spread around, sorting out the cats mess (their cat they never help), finding all the stuff to load into the dishwasher, scraping all the plates that didn’t clean the first time in the dishwasher because they don’t rinse them, taking out all the rubbish which I have to sort into recycling. They block up all the sinks somehow. I don’t even get round to cleaning other stuff like the windows or sorting out the garden because I’m doing all the work indoors.

I know the answer is to throw them out I suppose I believe this is my own fault I have raised these kids and the way they have turned out I only have myself to blame?

OP posts:
Nanny0gg · 29/09/2024 18:42

FS90 · 28/09/2024 20:03

It’s so bemusing to me how the solution of so many people in response to a breakdown in relationship between parent and children is to kick the children out.

They're not children!

They're adults

Nanny0gg · 29/09/2024 18:44

thismummydrinksgin · 28/09/2024 20:35

Could you set up a rota or jobs? Be clear you expect them to do this. Or they need to contribute between them for a cleaner

How do you make them?

Boomerma1969 · 29/09/2024 18:45

Ah bless you, you sound like a fab mum who has good morals and has done her very best to bring up happy, caring and respectful children. Your post sounds exactly like my life. I am a single mum of two boys 23 and 19. I love my kids dearly, but they are lazy, and bone idle. They are not rude to me, but they create so much unecessary work around the home and they are selfish. Like you, I find it absolutely sould destroying tidying their c* daily. My pleas for a clean and tidy home fall on deaf ears. Anyways the youngest has just gone off to Uni, he will learn fast (there's a cleaning rota in his kitchen ) and hopefully grow up too. The eldest is back home for a yr saving for his placement yr at Uni. I have sat him down and said I am no longer being a slave to other's mess. I have done 30 yrs of servitude ( to my ex hubby and them) and I am done. He will need to do his dishes in future etc as I am also caring for an elderly parent. So far, things are slowly improving. If Uni is defo not the route for your boys and if u cannot boot them out, I wd declutter as best as poss. That's what I'm doing. The less stuff u and they have the less there is to clean. I wd also sit them down and say yr mental health is really being affected by the constant mess etc. They need to step up and help out for yr sanity. Start drawing up a dishes rota etc. Sending u big hugs, coz I can totally empathise with yr situation 🫂. There is a massive difference now 1 of my kids has left home, so whrn yr kids do eventually move, I promise u, u will get to live in an organised tidy way. 💜

Mabs49 · 29/09/2024 18:45

They've not grown up OP.

That's the problem. They're still behaving like they're 14.

They both need to move out. If they can't afford it you need to explain they need to study for better qualifications so they can afford better accomodation. Yes they may need to go to uni or some sort of course. Retail is not well paid.

What are their jobs/careers like? If they don't earn more, you'll never get rid of them. It's not fair on you. Perhaps the only mistake is not to have aspired higher. Everything else you have done has been good. No one could have known how hard the cost of living crisis would bite and how expensive renting would become.

Mumofthreeteenagers · 29/09/2024 18:47

I really feel your pain. I am there right now. Mum guilt left right and centre.

Lavenderflower · 29/09/2024 18:48

Nanny0gg · 29/09/2024 18:42

They're not children!

They're adults

I assuming they mean the relationship between a parent and a child. Technically when you are an adult you are not a child but people usually refer to their offspring as their child or children even if they are an adult.

Mabs49 · 29/09/2024 18:48

They cannot have food in their room and leave plates for days. That's disgusting. And what sort of partner will they be to someone else? They really need to raise their standards.

I'm not sure how you do that.

Perhaps you could leave and go away and say if the house is not clean when you come back, you will change the locks.

They need to learn to survive without you.

Mabs49 · 29/09/2024 18:49

I'd probably pull the nuclear option and just move out.

it's time for them to grow up.

Do it for 6 months. Tell them to survive on their own for that long.

They need to be able to - they are adults after all.

Stop feeling guilty. this is tough love.

Nanny0gg · 29/09/2024 18:50

Motherofone22 · 28/09/2024 21:52

You know what, they would expect me to fucking find the room for them to rent then move all their shit in too probably

It’s clear from this attitude that you resent them, I’m sure they have picked up on this. I think you should try and fix your relationship with them as it sounds strained, and perhaps then they will respect you more and make an effort to clean the house. If you want to kick them out then go ahead, but don’t be coming here complaining that they never talk to you in a few months. Especially if you go about it in a ‘they’ll expect me to move all their shit in too’ way. Sorry but you are their mother? Of course you should help them. Why have kids in the first place if you wouldn’t expect to help them. They’ve never lived alone before and you are annoyed about helping them move their stuff in? Wow.

Let's see how you feel if your child grows up like them and see what you'd do

Nanny0gg · 29/09/2024 18:52

TheGander · 28/09/2024 22:14

I haven’t read the whole thread so maybe this has been suggested already, but home about you go 1/3 each on a weekly cleaner? ( I’d say they go halves but they’d probably cry “ that’s not fair”)!

They're not highly paid and one certainly won't cough up more money

Hankunamatata · 29/09/2024 18:55

My friend charged her dc more rent than it would be in a house share or renting a room. They moved out fairly quickly

Doubledenim305 · 29/09/2024 18:56

MrsTerryPratchett · 28/09/2024 18:20

They haven't 'turned out' yet. They are still cooking and still learning lessons. And the lesson they badly need to learn is that they can't be arseholes and expect to live in a nice place.

Kick them out, they can live in one pigsty room and they'll learn. Parenting is a marathon, not a sprint and you aren't done teaching them yet.

Still cooking and learning...yes , spot on.
Time for them to get to spread their wings and have their 'freedom'. Then they will wake up to all you did for them because nobody else will.
School of hard knocks are awaiting them and peace and quiet for you.

Nanny0gg · 29/09/2024 18:57

thebestinterest · 28/09/2024 23:41

Agree with this… although I don’t want to shame you or make you feel bad. .. because honestly university kids can be disrespectful too, but a retail job just isn’t going to cut it anymore with the increasing rising cost of living. You can still encourage them to go to UNI, and move out.

Not everyone wants/is capable of university

Thought of that?

Jumpers4goalposts · 29/09/2024 19:06

Tell them to shape up and if they don’t increase their rent to cover the cost of a cleaner.

NellieJean · 29/09/2024 19:10

FS90 · 28/09/2024 20:03

It’s so bemusing to me how the solution of so many people in response to a breakdown in relationship between parent and children is to kick the children out.

Children? Seriously?

joolsella · 29/09/2024 19:18

Why are they paying £200 pm?

Fuck that

Three working adults sharing a home would usually split rent and bills equally

They're entitled brats

Up the rent and get a cleaner

Icantrememberit · 29/09/2024 19:29

I’m going to honest here! It’s not you, it’s society telling these adult kids they have the right to everything without having to actually doing much for it. As much as we have tried to rear them to be good, hard working humans they look to their friends and dare I say it social media for how they should be.
You’ve done your job bringing these children up. They’re adults now and NEED to fly the nest and see how their attitudes will help them in the real world. You’ve nurtured them enough, it’s time for them to wear their big pants and bugger off.

Donenow1 · 29/09/2024 19:37

Teddybear23 · 29/09/2024 18:17

University does not solve this, my son went, got a good degree but still treated me like sh1t and we are no longer in contact.

Sadly Teddybear, this is a more common occurrence than people think.

PorridgeEater · 29/09/2024 19:47

Could you get a cleaner? If they have to pay it might help them to realise it has a value to do some cleaning themselves.
They have to change their habits so perhaps start with one thing at a time (e.g. bathroom mess?).
Don't do their laundry.
If they come to you with problems / life admin can you say you don't have time to deal with it at the moment as you need to do xxxxxxxxx but if they can make sure that is done that you will have time to help them?
(I wouldn't do as an earlier pp suggested and start crying when you discuss it).

AnnieSnap · 29/09/2024 19:51

You can just insist that the more nasty one moves out. The other one might try harder then. It does sound like there is a big difference in their attitudes. You seem to be thinking they both go, or both stay, but it doesn’t have to be that. I would not tolerate verbal abuse from someone in their 20s, no matter who they are. Finding a room in a shared house that they can afford should be their responsibility, not yours. Give them a date, maybe in 14 days when they are moving out. Tell them if they haven’t made arrangements by then, you will pack up their stuff and leave it on the door step behind a locked door. If they haven’t made arrangements no rented room by then, they can couch surf with friends until they sort it. This is an adult you are dealing with, who refuses to behave in a civil manner. It’s not acceptable and they wouldn’t be able to behave like that at work, friends houses, or in their eventual shared house. Don’t allow them to keep treating you like their personal doormat. This is your life to live and it’s also not doing them any favours as they need to learn how to function properly in the world.

IVbumble · 29/09/2024 19:51

How much are they like their Dad @Pepsimaz & do you feel this might be adding to your frustration?

Was he also disrespectful of you?

Do they blame you for the split for some reason?

It sounds really hard especially as you have tried so many different ways to motivate them into looking after themselves at a really basic level. You're not asking for the moon on a stick!

VeriD · 29/09/2024 19:54

You have done a good job but they are pushing your limits…they all do one way or another lol. My advice, and it worked with mine in similar circumstances, is go on strike! Only clear up after yourself. Leave their mess, it is very hard but trust me it works in several ways…one they see it all instead of the cleaning fairy magically sorting it. Two when the mugs and plates run out etc they will have to do it. And lastly, and this is a huge motivator, when they have friends over the embarrassment will kick in!… it does not take long for the penny to drop an growing up will ensue. I always used to say nobody notices what I do until I don’t doing it😜…. And or you could go away for a holiday and they will have to sort it out between them. That works as well! Good luck 🤞

DoubleMM · 29/09/2024 19:57

How old are they? If they are in their 20s then yes if they dont like your rules then invite them cordially but firmly to get their own home OR be prepared to go equal with you on money, housework etc. Don't leave the house if you own it or you have a secure tenancy.

Lyraloo · 29/09/2024 19:59

JaneFondue · 28/09/2024 18:07

Could they afford to move out? I firmly believe that young adults need to move out, but not always possible.

Regardless, it’s their choice, either respect their mum and home or get the hell out! Life lessons can be hard but you get what you deserve!

Donenow1 · 29/09/2024 20:02

Icantrememberit · 29/09/2024 19:29

I’m going to honest here! It’s not you, it’s society telling these adult kids they have the right to everything without having to actually doing much for it. As much as we have tried to rear them to be good, hard working humans they look to their friends and dare I say it social media for how they should be.
You’ve done your job bringing these children up. They’re adults now and NEED to fly the nest and see how their attitudes will help them in the real world. You’ve nurtured them enough, it’s time for them to wear their big pants and bugger off.

This... bloody this. Many, not all 20 somethings I'm afraid are the product of a social media explosion which portrays them in the centre of their world's.. I find it very worrying.