Just Stop Oil - I couldn't care less

[savannahowl]

Those protestors actually make me feel even less bothered by climate change. I genuinely don't give a shit anymore.

Have they managed to convince anyone?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62d477yg95o

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crg7pen1xj7o

https://www.un.org/en/academic-impact/worlds-food-supply-made-insecure-climate-change

Is Cressida’s brother called Tarquin or am I imagining that?
Agree that they’re all toasters.

The laws we have can deal with that in the present. We don't have strong enough laws to deal with other direct harms - like drink-driving deaths and corporate negligence, which are tolerated.

The harms we happily accept are enormous, I don't think concern for impact on others should apply only to one thing (protests).

There are opinions and there are facts. The two are often mixed up. Climate change, fuelled and exacerbated by human activity, is fact. No matter which models of climate science you use. The extent of the catastrophe may be less clear but generally it’s already happening and far more quickly and more intensely than originally predicted and this will be a mass extinction event. We are already seeing the impact. People are already dying and suffering.

I do care about climate change, but would very much prefer it if these people put their energy (and expensive education, in some instances) into helping find solutions to the problems of climate change, rather than sticking themselves to tarmac and throwing soup. I find them horribly selfish, despite their protestations that they are acting for the good of humanity.

I disagree.

I respect them for taking direct action for something they believe in. Better than smug whining posts on mumsnet and feeling like you’re making any difference to anything.

So why didn't she, if she's so concerned about climate change, instead of doing what she did, protest to her brother about his plane ride away wedding?

I care so I don’t need JSO to convince me and their antics won’t convince people on the fence, in fact they are likely to turn them the opposite way. So I just find them annoying.

There is absolutely nothing respectable about the actions JSO have taken. Blocking the passage of ambulances and people going about their lives is never going to be commendable. It isn’t direct action, it’s short sighted, stupid and vastly immature.

I'd like to throw tomato soup all over them
snd glue their hands to outside walls in the storms - stupid twats.

Is this actually true that little wet lettuce Cressie’s brothers wedding is abroad?!?
If so I hope the mother hitch hikes her way there, given how outspoken she was about the injustice that wet lettuce would be missing it.

Hopefully he'll study a bit harder now that he's in prison.

Or rather than smug whining (apt description of JSO I'd say), some of us actually just quietly take non destructive and non antagonistic measures. I was brought up with a make do and mend attitude. Reuse instead of throw away. I love secondhand shops, I enjoy repairing things, and I hate throwing things away.

Far more constructive than committing unenvironmentally friendly vandalism or causing harm and distress to innocent people (whilst hypocritically planning flights for their brother's wedding).

If JSO care so much about the environment, why don't they use their time and funds on constructive action like helping people mend and repair items, and sourcing and donating secondhand furniture, computers, and clothes to people on low incomes etc.

The solution is that WE ALL take responsibility for our small part in it. There is no fairy godmother coming to save us all.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwylvy7enrgo

It’s interesting how they’re nearly all private school kids, the people who NEED to work to pay bills aren’t blocking the roads.

Alsoo, they want to make a difference? Take on China, India or the USA…. What we do in the UK is a drop in the ocean. We can cripple our economy by being ‘green’, but these countries don’t give a shit and pollute the world far more than us.

I find this such a strange thing to say.

Surely to can separate the actions of a few idiots with an issue of global significance?

If a small group of pro-choice campaigners did something stupid would you turn against that cause?

These privileged children throwing soup around is doing precisely nothing to achieve that aim

@3CustardCreams another poster said her brother's wedding was a plane ride away. I don't know if that's true but wouldn't be surprised. I vaguely remember an article about another JSO person going on a long haul holiday (despite JSO wanting to protest at airports).

DH goes to China for work, that’s where they should be concerned about.

They lost me when they were attacking public transport, do they expect people not to move around at all, I’d love to know how they got there, did they all walk? I imagine like most of the people I know who support them, are actually hypocrites.

I don’t see the point of attacking a painting in a free museum which then has to bear the brunt - insurance, more staff, other galleries won’t want to lend to them. Attack the establishment not public services.

Not ruining stuff, surely? Just making mess or causing inconvenience.

I care very deeply that someone can be imprisoned for years for causing minor damage to property. It's terrifying.

I do agree strongly with JSO's aims, but I don't think their actions are helpful, because we need actions that help people join together in doing something about climate change rather than actions that annoy people or turn them against the idea of positive changes.

Meh. There has been some "Wouldn't it be ironic if the brother's wedding was abroad..." speculation and some spoof social media content created to that effect, but no, it has not been confirmed in any credible way.

It's about as relevant as posters saying "Why don't they all go and protest in China then?"