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Just Stop Oil - I couldn't care less

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savannahowl · 28/09/2024 16:22

Those protestors actually make me feel even less bothered by climate change. I genuinely don't give a shit anymore.

Have they managed to convince anyone?

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Getmoveon14 · 28/09/2024 16:39

We'll probably find out one day that they're funded by oil companies to turn people against environmental causes.

gannett · 28/09/2024 16:40

Ivyn · 28/09/2024 16:35

I think you're right.

And the attitude of the OP of this thread demonstrates that what we actually need is to educate people on the facts.

Such as showing people the Keeling Curve and explaining what it is telling us. Explaining the consequences of warmer and more acidic oceans, explaining the consequences of warmer, wetter meteorological conditions on weather patterns, and then the impacts of weather patterns on crops, fresh water, etc. I could go on!

This information is all out there. Absolute reams of words have been written about it. It's been in mainstream newspapers and TV shows. No one reads or watches compared to the amount of attention these stunts get.

There have also been peaceful climate protests for decades that don't inconvenience the public. Indeed so much so that the public mostly don't notice.

Do I think Just Stop Oil's tactics are perfect? No, definitely not. Do I blame them for desperate attention-seeking when all the sensible, peaceful tactics have been met by public and political indifference? Definitely not. Do I think the kind of person who decide not to believe in facts just because some other people are annoying are idiots? Definitely.

bergamotorange · 28/09/2024 16:40

Gatehouse77 · 28/09/2024 16:38

Which is why their tactics are so unbelievably misplaced that they are turning people away from the issue and not drawing them in.

And as for not caring, until there is a global strategy from all governments rather than pushing the issue onto the general public it’s going to have little impact.

Given how even a global pandemic didn’t provoke united cooperation I don’t hold out much hope.

I’ll keep doing the ‘right thing’ but the like of JSO don’t help.

JSO are not the cause of climate change denial or lack of engagement.

Those who oppose climate action pretend it's JSO's fault, but it isn't.

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 28/09/2024 16:41

Getmoveon14 · 28/09/2024 16:39

We'll probably find out one day that they're funded by oil companies to turn people against environmental causes.

That's exactly what I think. They're so unpleasant and so hideous that they really can't be getting anyone on board.

TorroFerney · 28/09/2024 16:41

What's the link between their aims and paint on artwork? I can't see the link. Is it just publicity at any cause? Don;t in any way agree with the gluing to the pavement/disrupting emergency services but at least there is a link. What has Van Gogh done?

bergamotorange · 28/09/2024 16:43

Ivyn · 28/09/2024 16:35

I think you're right.

And the attitude of the OP of this thread demonstrates that what we actually need is to educate people on the facts.

Such as showing people the Keeling Curve and explaining what it is telling us. Explaining the consequences of warmer and more acidic oceans, explaining the consequences of warmer, wetter meteorological conditions on weather patterns, and then the impacts of weather patterns on crops, fresh water, etc. I could go on!

!!

The type of prats who say 'JSO make me care less about the climate' are unlikely to engage with that.

It's all out there. Do you think the Daily Mail doesn't have access to the science?

soupfiend · 28/09/2024 16:43

Cas112 · 28/09/2024 16:23

Hahahah tossers

Brilliant, I thought being a toaster was a new slur

I might use it and convince people its a 'thing'

Agree with you OP. And cant wait till its cold enough to get the wood burner going

username0489 · 28/09/2024 16:44

I suppose that if their behaviour is done in order to draw attention to the climate crisis, then they've done their jobs as people are talking about it.

I assume that those with massive cars sticking up one finger to the environment love the explosion in people fleeing countries affected by climate change.

bergamotorange · 28/09/2024 16:45

TorroFerney · 28/09/2024 16:41

What's the link between their aims and paint on artwork? I can't see the link. Is it just publicity at any cause? Don;t in any way agree with the gluing to the pavement/disrupting emergency services but at least there is a link. What has Van Gogh done?

Someone on another thread suggested it was a point about how much is spent (money and effort) protecting the past while the future is at such risk.

MattDamon · 28/09/2024 16:45

I don't think they care either, or else they'd have bothered to research better ways to instigate change.

Waltdisnerd · 28/09/2024 16:46

The 'protesters' are ridiculous, glad that they are being charged. Throwing soup at a painting or Harrods isn't helping at all.
Inconvenience the billionaires who can make a difference.
Not someone average trying to drive to work.

soupfiend · 28/09/2024 16:46

Clearinguptheclutter · 28/09/2024 16:30

Doesn’t bother you at all then that your children and grandchildren could become climate refugees, or best case scenario live in a world which is full of them.
if this generation doesn’t work it out, there isn’t a future as the effects will be too severe to reverse. We may have passed that point already

Climate refugeeism is how the UK (or what it was at the time) became populated. Thats why you're here

Whats the problem?

The world will survive. Humans might not, humans are not different to any otgher species on the planet, either now or in the past. Some survive and some dont.

soupfiend · 28/09/2024 16:48

StolenChanel · 28/09/2024 16:31

I’ll admit I don’t really understand those who are so opposed to their methods. Protests aren’t meant to be neat or convenient. Surely their long-term goals are more important than the material things they ruin on the way?

They are domestic terrorists.

A protest doesnt cause harm to infrastructure, econmic functioning of a country or other humans.

bergamotorange · 28/09/2024 16:48

MattDamon · 28/09/2024 16:45

I don't think they care either, or else they'd have bothered to research better ways to instigate change.

I'm not sure they believe there is any way to instigate change. Can't say I blame them for feeling that.

WilmaFlintstone1 · 28/09/2024 16:48

JSO are summed up for me by that silly girl (Cressie I think hey name is) and her equally clueless mother banging on about how poor Cressie is now in prison and will miss her brothers wedding being held ….erm a plane ride away!

meanwhile many working people missed work or other urgent appointments thanks to her and her stupid friends,

Typicalky most seem to be privately educated. Nice if you can afford not to work and protest but most of us cannot afford to lose a days pay because Cressie and chums want to play at protesting.

hattie43 · 28/09/2024 16:49

A waste of oxygen.

bergamotorange · 28/09/2024 16:52

because Cressie and chums want to play at protesting They're not 'playing', they've given up their freedom etc. They're protesting and the system as currently configured is responding.

hattie43 · 28/09/2024 16:52

Peonies12 · 28/09/2024 16:24

I hope you haven’t reproduced. Do you not care about the future of the planet?

Nope . We've always had different ages , dinosaurs , ice age why should we not expect the end of humanity .
I actually wouldn't care if humans became extinct, we are becoming more and more selfish and violent .

C152 · 28/09/2024 16:54

StolenChanel · 28/09/2024 16:31

I’ll admit I don’t really understand those who are so opposed to their methods. Protests aren’t meant to be neat or convenient. Surely their long-term goals are more important than the material things they ruin on the way?

I'm opposed to methods which include blocking all traffic including ambulances and those trying to get to hospital for life saving treatment. It actively discourages me from supporting their cause.

alittleprivacy · 28/09/2024 16:54

Peonies12 · 28/09/2024 16:24

I hope you haven’t reproduced. Do you not care about the future of the planet?

If we just stopped using oil, the best estimates are that hundreds of millions of people would die within the first few years. Probably far more. Many of those people would be in western countries but most would be among the poorest.

We do need to end our fossil fuel dependency, but not by just stopping it. We have to invent viable alternative forms of energy. Genuinely viable, not most of the supposed alternatives we're currently using. And not only do we need to use oil until then, but we will need to use oil in order to come up with the solutions that will bring us to its obsolescence.

Gatehouse77 · 28/09/2024 16:54

bergamotorange · 28/09/2024 16:40

JSO are not the cause of climate change denial or lack of engagement.

Those who oppose climate action pretend it's JSO's fault, but it isn't.

You’re right, they are not the cause of disengagement but no single entity is the cause. However, I would argue they are part of the current disengagement.

Boomer55 · 28/09/2024 16:55

Instead of putting them in prison, I think they should have their driving licenses, passports, mobile phones and internet access removed. Let them really live their so-called dream.

I’d bet, within a month, they’d be having a rethink.

Virtue signalling attention seekers. 🙄

gannett · 28/09/2024 16:56

WilmaFlintstone1 · 28/09/2024 16:48

JSO are summed up for me by that silly girl (Cressie I think hey name is) and her equally clueless mother banging on about how poor Cressie is now in prison and will miss her brothers wedding being held ….erm a plane ride away!

meanwhile many working people missed work or other urgent appointments thanks to her and her stupid friends,

Typicalky most seem to be privately educated. Nice if you can afford not to work and protest but most of us cannot afford to lose a days pay because Cressie and chums want to play at protesting.

Does Cressie annoy you more than the (mostly privately educated!) men who run big oil firms who continue to pillage and destroy the planet?

SillySally12 · 28/09/2024 16:57

I don’t agree with their tactics AT ALL, but we should all be bothered about climate change!

WeirdyWorldy · 28/09/2024 16:58

MiriamMay · 28/09/2024 16:32

I care about the climate.
However, JSO are turning people against the cause. Their actions have achieve absolutely nothing apart from making people less inclined to engage with the issue of climate change.

The same! They genuinely annoy the fuck out me and that Greta girl.

They're doing more harm than good. Just pissing people off.

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