Child identifies as a wolf ... WTF?

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Just on Radio 4 now, discussing a child in secondary school who identifies as a wolf, and the school is going along with this. AIBU to think the world (or at least the UK) has gone mad? If said child is living in the woods, catching its own prey etc etc, howling and running with other wolves, which I doubt, then why the hell is anyone going along with it? They are also saying that some others identify as dogs or cats etc. And here was me thinking men 'identifying' as women was bad.

You're not being unreasonable with the wolf thing but you totally lost my vote with the men identifying as women comment, that's just ignorant.

Sex is determined at conception, observed during pre-birth scans or at birth and gender is a social construct.

Why can’t we just encourage people to be happy in their own skin with who they are? Over a hundred years society favored the fat, it showed they were eating well. Skinny ones worked and barely subsisted. Then everyone wanted to be thin. Now everyone wants to be a group oppressed 50- 200 years ago? Everyone also wants to support people with mental illness so everyone is identifying as depressed and anxious it’s hard to tell the true suffering from the ones just sad and worry too much.

quoted wrong person. Sorry

There is a link though because people saying they are a different sex to what they were born as and people saying they are a different breed to what they were born are both scientifically impossible.

its ridiculous for a teenager to identify as a lion
it’s offensive for a white person to identify as a black person
it’s concerning for a 42 year old to identify as a 12 year old
it’s fine for a man to identify as a woman and he should be allowed to use all the women only spaces and the young girls and women must be ‘calm and kind’ about this because of course it’s completely fine. Even though it’s as scientifically impossible as the other things on the list, including identifying as animals, which is what this thread is about. You honestly can’t see the link? Concerning

The council doesn't formally acknowledge his Identity. A counsellor does. Why do people keep falling for all this??
We have very little detail on this - we don't know the age, whether he moves or behaves like an animal, there is no agreed definition in or out of school about species dysphoria.
This is a proxy argument for gender issues and anyone who swallows this whole needs to have a real long think about what is going on - in their heads.

There is a competition for girls who ride hobby horses around courses. And we’re not talking 6yos either. Even one girl howling at how unfair the competition or some such was!

I've heard that people spread rumours without evidence, like saying "I've heard" at the start of an alarmist comment.

The first few comments were transphobic.
Trans-woman are not men, that’s the whole point. Yes there have been cases of apparently trans-women committing rape etc, however I would imagine that they aren’t actually trans and instead using that ‘identity’ in order to gain easier access to women. A genuine trans-woman is no more likely to rape someone than another woman is, nor are they anymore interested in seeing someone’s bits than any other woman. Astonishing that this needs to be pointed out. Although, given the fact you can’t see past what genitalia someone has determining their character, probably not so astonishing.

How do you tell the difference between a genuine trans woman and a man who is using the identity as an excuse?

The $64000 question!

XX, XY It is assigned from the beginning. People might later on prefer to be the other based on influence.

A genuine trans-woman is no more likely to rape someone than another woman

Even that's not true, because...

No true transwoman eh? Transpeople are not saints: they are human beings with all the strengths and failings that come with it. Biological sex is certainly relevant as men commit 90%+ of all violent crimes.

I am not afraid of people who say they are the other gender. No phobia. I am afraid for them.

There's a girl who identifies as a therian in ds 13s class, she wears a wolf mask and tail and post herself jumping and crawling about on SM. Obviously school don't allow it on school time

I worry for kids like this, it's utterly ridiculous

All you thinking it all real are free to share a hospital room, dressing room and prison cell with a person wanting to make the transition in either direction. For a time it was changing gender stereotypes which should make all this unnecessary. Boys and girls are taught to read. Both can knit. Everyone can go to college. At least in the west. Just see what they do in some countries. Executed..

No of course they aren’t saints, but then who is. Women can also be violent. Maybe if men are dangerous we should just get rid of them all. My point is just because a certain % of a gender or a sector of society commit heinous crimes doesn’t mean they all do. Or are all white women Myra Hindley or Rose West? Being born with a vagina doesn’t make someone a saint either.

Potentially ones who no longer have a penis and make a full transition? I’m not sure many men would cut their penis off to be able to get closer to women, I’m sure someone will come along and tell me I’m wrong soon enough though.

Sharing toilets or a dressing room with cubicles is very different to sharing a prison cell or a hospital room though. Personally I don’t like sharing hospital rooms, toilets or dressing rooms with anyone, man or woman. Can’t comment on jail as I’ve never been to one.

You don’t need a penis to rape someone..

Transwomen are men though. Biology is key. This is no reflection on people's 'character' but their sex. Again, mind blowing that this needs to be said. When did science denial become the in thing?

The point is not that all transwomen are dangerous. The point is that all transwomen are men. If you believe in the importance of single sex spaces, why should some men be granted access to women's spaces but not others?

No-one is denying science, but it’s not like people have their chromosomes stamped on their foreheads so they can be correctly categorised. And intersex is a scientific reality therefore genitalia isn’t necessarily a reliable way to categorise people.

To purrsue their education?