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Portakalkedi · 2024-09-27T11:15:46+00:00

Just on Radio 4 now, discussing a child in secondary school who identifies as a wolf, and the school is going along with this. AIBU to think the world (or at least the UK) has gone mad? If said child is living in the woods, catching its own prey etc etc, howling and running with other wolves, which I doubt, then why the hell is anyone going along with it? They are also saying that some others identify as dogs or cats etc. And here was me thinking men 'identifying' as women was bad.

isthesolution · 27/09/2024 15:22

We recently went to a soft play and there were children (around age 12/13) dressed as and acting as animals and videoing each other.

I'm ok with children playing - dressing up as doctors, fireman, superheroes and animals but not actually believing that they are this thing.

Like others have said - we've told these children they can be what they want and they firmly believe it's the case. You want to be a different sex? Ok. You want to be a wolf? Why not.

It's TERRIFYING that despite the 'love yourself for who you are' posts we also have this idea that if you don't love who you are you can just be someone else. It's insane.

FrostFlowers2025 · 27/09/2024 15:27

It had to come to this. If anyone can identify as anything, then someone eventually will and children are particularly susceptible to this. I remember the story of two children who believed they were pokemon and jumped out of window.

Trishthedish · 27/09/2024 15:31

ChanelBoucle · 27/09/2024 13:05

I was listening to this just earlier. While doing so, I found myself thinking that we have totally lost the plot as a society now. A couple of decades ago, it was the done thing to humour kids for their phases and foibles as they went through adolescence, to take it all fairly light heartedly and in good humour, but there were limits and kids respected that.

For example, I fancied myself as a bit of a goth when I was 13/14, and my mum humoured me and went along with it, buying me whatever gothy stuff I wanted for Christmas, allowing me to play my goth music in the car and not crying too much when I dyed my hair black and pierced my ears in several places. I knew however that I had to wear correct uniform for school and behave in a courteous and respectful manner. Not that being goth and being courteous are mutually exclusive ofc but you get my drift I hope. I dunno, there were just boundaries.

A couple of years later I moved on to the next thing, we had a bit of a laugh and I had a bit of a cringe but that was it. Nowadays, we have po-faced guest speakers on R4 actually trying to psychoanalyse this nonsense. These kids are never going to look back and see this light heartedly, instead they’ll see it as some kind of intrinsic psychological trauma personality trait thing that they’ll carry for the rest of their lives and what should be seen as a phase, a form of healthy rebellion even, is being taken way out of context and that is why I truly believe the world is going mad.

Couldn’t agree more. I’m in my 60’s as as I was growing these were all phases, you grew out of them. No one made a fuss or believed you. The trouble these days is that they are believed. I worked in a girls school and an old colleague tells me that they now have a pupil who identifies as a boy and she is permitted to wear trousers. None of the other pupils are. Utter fucking madness. If she identifies as a boy she should fuck off to a boys school. Girls need safe spaces and entertaining this phase is potty imo.

samarrange · 27/09/2024 15:32

JustAnotherPoster00 · 27/09/2024 12:43

Happy right wing trope day everybody🎂🎉

Here's the story. It's a week old, and it was covered by (are you sitting down?) the Mail, the Express, and GB News, so I'm surprised there wasn't a thread about it until now.

Apparently the school and local authority are in Scotland, but neither have been actually named. I'm sure that's definitely not because the whole story is culture-war bollocks.

School pupil with an 'animal persona' allowed to identify as wolf after suffering from 'species dysphoria'

A school pupil has been allowed to self-identify as a wolf by her teacher after claiming she had an "animal persona" and belonged to a different species.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/school-pupil-identify-wolf-animal-persona-allowed-teachers/

mycatsbestfriend · 27/09/2024 15:34

I used to wish I was a cat when I was a little girl. I wanted people to think I was cute and mew at them, but I was too shy to do it. Probably in todays world I would have transformed into one

ChungKing · 27/09/2024 15:36

samarrange · 27/09/2024 15:32

Here's the story. It's a week old, and it was covered by (are you sitting down?) the Mail, the Express, and GB News, so I'm surprised there wasn't a thread about it until now.

Apparently the school and local authority are in Scotland, but neither have been actually named. I'm sure that's definitely not because the whole story is culture-war bollocks.

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And The Telegraph and a bunch of other places. Who knows if this particular case is true. I do know there are people out there who do identify as animals though.

I don't know why people find mental illness so hard to believe.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/09/19/schoolboy-uk-allowed-identify-as-a-wolf/

Schoolboy ‘allowed to identify as a wolf’

Teachers reportedly supporting the pupil who claims to be suffering from ‘species dysphoria’

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/09/19/schoolboy-uk-allowed-identify-as-a-wolf

Cattyisbatty · 27/09/2024 15:46

KnittedCardi · 27/09/2024 12:32

Cats don't go to the loo on the grass. They dig a hole, cover it up. Then lick their paws and arse clean. If they are not doing that, they are not a cat.

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Mine does, she’s a bugger for it!

Drinkdrinkduuurink · 27/09/2024 15:47

WindowsSmindows · 27/09/2024 12:20

I'm not about to listen to it, does it sound believable?
I've not ever heard a first hand believable account of this nonsense.
I want to believe it's true though because if a boy can become a girl by stamping his feet and blinking twice or whatever bullshit, then why not a cat or tiger or wolf
Bring it on, expose the nonsense.
I identify as an old lady, where is my pension, cup of tea and grandbaby???

Wasn't there a fella in prison who identifies as a baby?

Quick Google, yep.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/trans-murderer-prison-identify-baby-26669658

Trans Scots killer identifying as infant demands nappies and baby food in jail

Sophie Eastwood, formerly Daniel, is demanding nappies to wear and food to be blended like a baby's and has already been supplied with a dummy at Polmont prison.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/trans-murderer-prison-identify-baby-26669658

Thisthere · 27/09/2024 15:49

I do wish transphobes would get a life

Cheekymonkye · 27/09/2024 15:50

Hmmm a wolf on school grounds? I would imagine that it would be shot . That would probably solve the problem quickly enough.

Allthehorsesintheworld · 27/09/2024 15:52

Well I’d like to identify as 5’10” size 6 supermodel with the IQ of Einstein and the bank balance of Richard Branson but the mirror ( and common sense) tells me otherwise. Why don’t the child’s parents tell her/him to keep the wolf for the weekends then they can shit in the woods and catch their own food. One wet weekend will stop the nonsense.

ChungKing · 27/09/2024 15:52

Thisthere · 27/09/2024 15:49

I do wish transphobes would get a life

I do wish transwomen would stop trampling all over women’s boundaries.

HectorPlasm · 27/09/2024 15:58

Do the others kids go along with things like this or just laugh at them?

Serious question

Sheeparelooseagain · 27/09/2024 16:00

I know someone who took his dog out for a walk in a park one night and came across someone in a wolf mask. He got out of there sharpish.

WoodforTrees · 27/09/2024 16:00

Next door neighbour drives a black cab, comes across all sorts and is very tolerant and patient. Lost his shit with a woman whose daughter (aged around 12) identified as a cat, was dressed in a fur cat suit, meowed instead of talking, but then started 'leaping' about in the back and scratching everything. Neighbour asked her to stop and she hissed at him. Neighbour asked mum to stop her and mum said that daughter was just "being her cat-self and not to worry as she didn't actually have claws".

Neighbour told mum that the cat needed to sit still or the fare would be over. Funnily enough the cat then sat still.

The fucking PANDERING blows my mind.

ChungKing · 27/09/2024 16:02

Sheeparelooseagain · 27/09/2024 16:00

I know someone who took his dog out for a walk in a park one night and came across someone in a wolf mask. He got out of there sharpish.

Was there a full moon by any chance?

Aliciainwunderland · 27/09/2024 16:03

This story has been fact checked. It’s true. Every teacher on here probably has a similar story. So I don’t understand why it’s all ‘blah blah kitty litter is for school shootings… can’t possibly be true’

this is not on teachers. Teachers are in a battle ground where they risk losing their jobs over discrimination and dealing with delusional parents who want to excuse their little darlings behaviour.

Domainedor · 27/09/2024 16:03

WoodforTrees · 27/09/2024 16:00

Next door neighbour drives a black cab, comes across all sorts and is very tolerant and patient. Lost his shit with a woman whose daughter (aged around 12) identified as a cat, was dressed in a fur cat suit, meowed instead of talking, but then started 'leaping' about in the back and scratching everything. Neighbour asked her to stop and she hissed at him. Neighbour asked mum to stop her and mum said that daughter was just "being her cat-self and not to worry as she didn't actually have claws".

Neighbour told mum that the cat needed to sit still or the fare would be over. Funnily enough the cat then sat still.

The fucking PANDERING blows my mind.

I thought she was a cat, not a panda?

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Portakalkedi · 27/09/2024 16:04

I don't think this particular case was 'made up bollocks' - it was on Antisocial, R4 at 12pm today. I think the child in question was in Scotland, was only half listening at first. Anyhow I'm sure it does happen given the general madness nowadays.

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BonfireLady · 27/09/2024 16:06

DamnUserName21 · 27/09/2024 12:42

In primary school, I'd treat this as playful (although not the toileting!)

In secondary school, parents need to nip this shit in the bud. I imagine other school kids are likely ripping the piss out of these kids.

If my secondary school child wanted to self ID as an animal, I'd give them a figurative smack in the head!

In primary school, I'd treat this as playful (although not the toileting!)

If it's a primary school child wearing an animal costume at home I'd treat it as completely playful. Mine did this. We had tons of costumes.

However, if that child was using the phrase "I identify as a [animal type]" and/or insisted that they needed to wear the outfit (or ears/tail) to school, I would treat it as a safeguarding risk. I would assume that the child had stumbled across something that was pulling them towards the very adult world of furrydom. This world has a big crossover with gender identity, presumably so that it can be "legitimised". Until relatively recently it was all underground. The first I heard of it was about 15 years ago when the then boyfriend of a colleague told her he was into it. She decided to leave him to it and we just figured it was a bit nerdy. He was a geeky, generally shy guy who worked in IT.

ItWasnaMeGuv · 27/09/2024 16:10

I haven't read the full thread, OP, but just wanted to agree. I feel your despair. What should have happened when said child said "I am a wolf" was a firm "no you are not". The school should further request that this child learn at home until 'human' again. Sadly this situation is a symptom of the general trans/gender insanity which has infected education, councils, NHS, judiciary, organisations, institutions, charities, media, BBC etc. It started with preferred pronouns. It is no lie that "preferred pronouns are rhohypnol" either. Insisting that using preferred pronouns is 'respectful' misses the point. Using them is not a neutral act, it forces users to partake in a lie with the deluded pronoun owner. That way lies madness. I have checked the votes and am amazed that only 92% agree with you. I assumed it would be 99-100% to be honest.

RanchRat · 27/09/2024 16:10

Clickbait nonsense. Get a grip.

ExquisiteEmelda · 27/09/2024 16:11

I worked in a girls school and an old colleague tells me that they now have a pupil who identifies as a boy and she is permitted to wear trousers. None of the other pupils are

This is where half of this trans nonsense comes from, who said wearing trousers makes you a boy and wearing a skirt makes you a girl? Absolute bloody madness.

NashvilleQueen · 27/09/2024 16:11

I wouldn't worry too much. I used to think I was a wolf.

But I'm alright nooooowwwwwwwwwwww

Sorry. Juvenile I know but I couldn't see that this joke had already been made and it was an opportunity too good to miss.

mycatsbestfriend · 27/09/2024 16:12

ItWasnaMeGuv · 27/09/2024 16:10

I haven't read the full thread, OP, but just wanted to agree. I feel your despair. What should have happened when said child said "I am a wolf" was a firm "no you are not". The school should further request that this child learn at home until 'human' again. Sadly this situation is a symptom of the general trans/gender insanity which has infected education, councils, NHS, judiciary, organisations, institutions, charities, media, BBC etc. It started with preferred pronouns. It is no lie that "preferred pronouns are rhohypnol" either. Insisting that using preferred pronouns is 'respectful' misses the point. Using them is not a neutral act, it forces users to partake in a lie with the deluded pronoun owner. That way lies madness. I have checked the votes and am amazed that only 92% agree with you. I assumed it would be 99-100% to be honest.

I am not able to use the preferred pronouns. It isn't that I don't want to I just can't