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Negativity around boys from mums of girls

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mills8 · 22/09/2024 07:55

Yesterday we found out we are expecting our second baby boy which we are both really excited about. My first little boy, almost 3 is nothing but an absolute joy. He's so chatty, sweet, hilarious, kind and loving and everything with him has always been so easy, he's been a dream to raise and I feel so lucky to be having another. If I could copy and paste him I'd have 10 of him. He's the blonde haired blue eyed boy I always saw in my mind when I pictured him.

Yesterday I seen a post on social media from a mother having her second boy and how disappointed she was, the comments were absolutely filled with people saying the same and how disappointed they were and so many mothers of girls saying they were terrified their precious baby girls were going to be boys and they would never want one so could understand the disappointment. It's not just on that post though, I have seen it countless times on here too and other posts on SM and it's really sad, why is there such negativity around boys? Especially second ones, people seem to really pity parents having a second boy. Is it people just being narrow minded? Why do people have kids if they're set on only one sex? I feel quite sad about the negativity and hoping to hear from some wise mumsnetters. Am I really going to be missing out when they are older?

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squeakybanana · 22/09/2024 10:16

SallyWD · 22/09/2024 10:03

Yes, it makes me really sad too. I have one of each but would have been happy with two boys or two girls.
What gets me down most, is mums of girls who think it's fine to say such negative things about boys.
I have two friends and we often go out to dinner together. Between them they have 5 girls (no boys). We often have conversations where they talk about how happy they are they don't have boys. One said, " When I was told I having a girl at the scan, I cried with relief". The other said "I screamed with happiness!". Then there are comments like "Every day I thank God i have girls". I know another mum who has three girls abd she said "I'm so thankful I only have girls".
I just find it bizarre! Strange they think this but also strange they openly say this to a mum of a boy. I find it offensive.

Bloody hell, I feel so sorry for those girls if their mothers are so prescriptive. What happens if they have a grand son in the future?

Just awful.

thunderstormsunday · 22/09/2024 10:18

You could equally say that about the OP though @duchessofsilk . I took it very much to mean ‘I have two children of the same sex and wouldn’t swap for one of each.’ But only that poster knows what she meant. I very, very much doubt she’d have put a son up for adoption, though!

Mooshroo · 22/09/2024 10:19

We didn’t find out the sex until birth and I was often confused why people were so interested in what genitals the baby would have

Happii · 22/09/2024 10:21

Personally I wasn't bothered with the biological sex of our baby as didn't have a preference, but I note the many men who covet having a boy don't get half the judgement women who would prefer a girl get. The crux is it's not acceptable to comment on others pregnancies and children surely?

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 22/09/2024 10:23

PreggersWithBaby2 · 22/09/2024 09:47

@GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing I totally agree. Their personalities definitely aren't defined by their sex! And the people saying "my boys are so much easier than my girls" or "I only have girls and they are so much easier than my friends boys" it's all a lot of shite really coz in that situation really you are only comparing 2 - 3 individuals, not an entire gender!

I think it would be great if people could keep their mouths shut around other people's pregnancies and babies but according to some threads ive seen on here, people commenting - no matter how rude or insulting, is just them "showing interest in your baby".....

Agreed!

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 22/09/2024 10:25

PeachRose1986 · 22/09/2024 09:18

I have boys, late teens now. Funnily enough, I was only out clothes shopping with my youngest ds yesterday when I told him that people said that I wouldn’t have anyone to do that with, not having a daughter! My boys love shopping. I have never felt that I missed out on anything, boys are wonderful at every stage and now they tower over me, so handsome and I’m just in awe of them! I can’t imagine and wouldn't want life any other way (but obviously if I’d had daughters I would have said the same thing).

Ignore the negativity, I promise you will love having boys.

Both my boy and girl and like me and don’t really like clothes shopping - we are order on line people 😂

cuckooooooo · 22/09/2024 10:26

@lifeisnotstraigtforward yes imagine the horrible favouritism towards a granddaughter. I'm having a second boy and can't wait!

RitaFires · 22/09/2024 10:28

I'm just hoping for a healthy baby. It took years of trying and fertility treatment to get pregnant and it's still early days for me.

My best friend and my sister in law both got a lot of feedback from people that it was ideal to have their first child be a boy but much less ideal that their second children were also boys. I think that's very silly as each child is their own person, they didn't accidentally receive two of the same thing.

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 22/09/2024 10:31

I think it can work both ways where men prefer boys and women girls. I would find both of these attitudes really troubling. When they say I want a boy they don't mean it, they mean they want a boy who likes soccer or is a boys boy. Likewise they want a girl who fits the girl cliche of wearing pink and playing with dolls. If the child doesn't fit their very limited view they will be disappointed and no doubt the child will pick up on it. I have to say, if someone expresses a particularly strong view, I immediately think they are going to be a shit narrow minded parent and lose respect.

Shutupyoutart · 22/09/2024 10:35

whatever about gender disappointment I never had it and don't really get it at all but I don't know what it is about pregnancy /new babies that bring out the absolutely worst in some people and they feel the need to make such ridiculous/rude comments. what's wrong with just a congratulations on your wonderful news, baby! I have three girls, one boy so i got it the other way around when pregnant with ds, people hoping for me that it would be"team blue " I honestly didn't give a shit what sex any of my children were as long as they were happy and healthy. I think the mentality of girls are better stems mainly from gender stereotypes, but any sensible person knows that all children are born with their own little personality. none of my three girls would be considered girly girls in fact ds would be most likely to wear a dress then any of my girls lol. every one of them has their own interests, sense of style etc and I wouldnt have them any other way.

Happii · 22/09/2024 10:36

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 22/09/2024 10:31

I think it can work both ways where men prefer boys and women girls. I would find both of these attitudes really troubling. When they say I want a boy they don't mean it, they mean they want a boy who likes soccer or is a boys boy. Likewise they want a girl who fits the girl cliche of wearing pink and playing with dolls. If the child doesn't fit their very limited view they will be disappointed and no doubt the child will pick up on it. I have to say, if someone expresses a particularly strong view, I immediately think they are going to be a shit narrow minded parent and lose respect.

Hmm I don't know, I'm sure some do but there are also other differences between the sexes other than what they might want to wear or hobbies they might enjoy especially when they're older let's be real. Sad reality is that part of me is pleased to have a son because although statistically he's more likely as a man to be violently attacked, to use drugs and other horrible things, women are at far more risk in society. I'd be worried about having a teen daughter for different reasons than having a teenage son for example.

OhmygodDont · 22/09/2024 10:43

Doesn’t matter what you have people will comment. We had the “perfect” boy followed by girl. Then we had a third and people couldn’t understand why as we had the perfect pair born in the right order.

My sil wanted to be a girl mum. Got two boys now she’s a smug mum of boys about how great they are and that they are boys boys and so rough and tumble. They are completely feral tbh. She’s just over compensating for the fact she did want girls, she would go again but her husband says NO!

My boy isn’t into football or wrestling. My oldest girl Isn’t / wasn’t into dresses or pink or Barbie. My youngest is a girly girl
however. I am not a girly girl 🤷🏻‍♀️😅

phoenixrosehere · 22/09/2024 10:46

Pickled21 · 22/09/2024 09:07

This always seems to be such a thing on mumsnet. There are always comments about how boys are easier, less arguments, less drama and as a mother of both it gets my goat. In real life I've always seen it the other way around ie boys being preferred over girls. My sister has 2 boys and noone has commented anything like that to her. She would have liked a dd as she cannot have anymore children. It doesn't mean she doesn't love her son or would exchange him. I have girl boy , girl and was told by an idiot I know that I shouldn't have a 4th incase it's another girl. I told said idiot to mind her own but I refuse to argue with stupid.

People get defensive when it comes to this. There has already been posts about boys being great, well yes they are but so are girls. Also some have already responded thst boys are easier to raise without reslising that whilst it mauy be their experience but it is quite a big generalisation to make. I firmly believe you get what is best for you. It's ok to say that you are happy with your lot and that doesn't mean you are putting anyone else down. Congratulations on your little one, wishing you a happy, healthy pregnancy.

In real life I've always seen it the other way around ie boys being preferred over girls. My sister has 2 boys and no one has commented anything like that to her.

That is my experience before I had our daughter. I’ve encountered more how lovely boys are, how easy they are, and how lucky I was to be having one over having girls that it would annoy me. I was not spoiled, extremely easy to the point my mum was suspicious of how easy I was. I just didn’t see the point of engaging in stupidity and putting myself at risk of getting in trouble and damaging my future for teenage antics knowing the likelihood of me getting a light smack on the wrist and just being a teenager was extremely minimal.

After having a daughter, I got plenty of questions. Was I trying for a girl? Would I have gone through another pregnancy if I had had a boy? Was I going to go for another to have an even number of children?

I notice on MN there is quite a bit of anti- female. The amount of posters happy to call other women that they’ve never met (b*tches, cows, cnt’s etc) is crazy. Women on here get a lot of judgment, victim-blaming, and assumption of purposeful slights from other women more than I’ve seen on most platforms.

Honeytutu · 22/09/2024 10:47

It pissed me off when after having two boys , people saying ah well try again for a girl and how sad it was I had another boy and how special it was to have one of each ! When there was a perfectly healthy little boy in the pram .

PiggleToes · 22/09/2024 10:48

duchessofsilk · 22/09/2024 09:57

I find it interesting that these sorts of comments are sternly corrected but the women saying they wanted boys are not

I think anyone who feels that strongly about a certain gender should maybe think about their ability to parent effectively. If you are literally going to be bereft by having one gender and not love them as much (which is what is implied) then thats a serious issue.

As I say, nothing wrong with having a preference but acting like you're going to be devastated with one gender is quite troubling for that child and it will affect them if thats how you genuinely feel.

This is ridiculous. So many people feel strongly about this. It doesn’t mean they don’t love their children that they bring into the world as much as any other parent, but the grief of never having the little girl or boy you imagined is also real. Now you are telling these parents they shouldn’t have had children at all! 🤦🏼‍♀️ Give your head a wobble please.

Notmollybutdolly · 22/09/2024 10:49

Only read the first page but is no one else picking up on ‘blonde haired blue eyed boy’????
sorry what?

Henriette9 · 22/09/2024 10:52

RitaFires · 22/09/2024 10:28

I'm just hoping for a healthy baby. It took years of trying and fertility treatment to get pregnant and it's still early days for me.

My best friend and my sister in law both got a lot of feedback from people that it was ideal to have their first child be a boy but much less ideal that their second children were also boys. I think that's very silly as each child is their own person, they didn't accidentally receive two of the same thing.

feedback from people that it was ideal to have their first child be a boy but much less ideal that their second children were also boys.

Yes, it be heard this too. But it’s because if there was a Venn diagram of a) people who might have “gender” disappointment and b) people who say gendered bullshit like “I want a boy first then a girl so her big brother can look after her 😍” there’d probably be a bit of an overlap.

My DD can perfectly handle herself without a big brother. 😂

OhmygodDont · 22/09/2024 10:53

Notmollybutdolly · 22/09/2024 10:49

Only read the first page but is no one else picking up on ‘blonde haired blue eyed boy’????
sorry what?

Yeah. All those poor brown eyes boys or brown haired or ginger clearly. And let’s not get started on race because I don’t know many blonde haired blue eyed Afrikaans

Henriette9 · 22/09/2024 10:53

I’ve** heard this too

PiggleToes · 22/09/2024 10:55

Notmollybutdolly · 22/09/2024 10:49

Only read the first page but is no one else picking up on ‘blonde haired blue eyed boy’????
sorry what?

Yeh I noticed that 😬. It made my toes curl a bit.

Flossyts · 22/09/2024 10:55

OhmygodDont · 22/09/2024 10:53

Yeah. All those poor brown eyes boys or brown haired or ginger clearly. And let’s not get started on race because I don’t know many blonde haired blue eyed Afrikaans

I mean I’d be pretty surprised and probably a little disappointed if mine weren’t blonde hair blue eyes looking at my husband and I 😂. But yes, it is a little strange to comment on it!

PiggleToes · 22/09/2024 10:59

Flossyts · 22/09/2024 10:55

I mean I’d be pretty surprised and probably a little disappointed if mine weren’t blonde hair blue eyes looking at my husband and I 😂. But yes, it is a little strange to comment on it!

Why would you be disappointed just out of curiosity? This makes less sense to me than gender disappointment…

Flossyts · 22/09/2024 11:09

PiggleToes · 22/09/2024 10:59

Why would you be disappointed just out of curiosity? This makes less sense to me than gender disappointment…

I kind of meant that they wouldn’t look like us at all - ie that they certainly weren’t my husbands. Although clumsy comment to be fair because we have had a couple red heads crop into the mix for cousins! But yes, every single one of the cousins on my husbands side and on mine bar two red heads are vvv blonde!

Plantlady10 · 22/09/2024 11:15

I don't understand why people say there is no difference between boys and girls in threads like this, but from other threads people clearly think there is a difference between men and women and the relationship with daughters/sons - as PP have said, the MIL hate, the anti-men sentiment ect.

I don't know of anyone who has a gender preference because of stereotypical football/ballet reasons. It's more based on who the child will become as an adult. I see it on here and in real life that women tend to be closer to their families than men

MN loves to hate on men, then gets outraged that someone might lean towards wanting a girl

Krampers · 22/09/2024 11:16

YaWeeFurryBastard · 22/09/2024 09:00

I don’t agree. Also work with a lot of high earners (and am one myself) and it’s usually women prefer girls men prefer boys.

Thanks utter nonsense as a high earner myself.

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