To tell Children's Services it is a malicious referal from school

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So DD's school have today told me they are referring us to Children's Services. Ever since I made a complaint they have been trying to off roll her. They are not putting in proper support for DD leaving her struggling and then not wanting to go in the next day. Apparently this is all my fault. I feel this is just another tactic for me to be so fed up with the school I pull her out.

OP, you're not going to get many sensible replies as you've riled everyone up by providing very scant information in your first post.

It made it seem like you had something to hide.

May be wiser to re post with a list of the relevant details at the start of the post, and you'll get advice from people who've been through similar and can try to help you and your DD.

In my local authority, parental consent is needed before a referral is made to social services. Unless the concern meets a threshold of needs.

it does sound like some support from the disabled children’s team may help you. You can contact them yourself for support.

off rolling is not allowed. No child can be off rolled.

And they're issues CSC are trained to deal with. You want further support for her, don't you? Can't you see this as a collaborative issue centering your daughter as opposed to tit for tat with the school?

Thsnk you, that was exactly what I wanted to know. As I guess before this happened to us I would have thought - a school wouldn't do that!

And no, it is definitely aimed at me. Apparently her issues are nothing to do with autism they are because of me. She thinks she knows better than the Ed Psych and all sorts of experts...they are all wrong apparently.

From my experience of SEN I would be extremely surprised if school wasn't acting maliciously.

I would have thought that before this happened to us.

This.

You can apply for an EHC needs assessment yourself op. I suggest doing so www.ipsea.org.uk/asking-for-an-ehc-needs-assessment

What are the Ed Psych recommendations?

Rather than making accusations of malicious actions, just explain factually to Social Services what her diagnosis is, what reasonable adjustments her Ed Psych has recommended, what is happening at present and why it is making your daughter more anxious, then the plan the school have and why it is unworkable.

Separately, ask them about how to make progress with an EHCP. It’s possible there are smaller settings that might be more suitable for her. They are popping up all over the place at the moment because the demand is huge. Personally, I think factory schooling - vast schools within multi-academy trusts are to blame for schools becoming more stressful environments for many ND children who would have coped with the schools of 20 years ago. If you can identify a suitable SEN school, maybe the SENCo at the current school would help with an EHCP that specifies the new school. Then they are not off-rolling her. They are transferring her. I know people who have managed to achieve this.

I has to go through children services to get an occupational therapist referral for my son.

They legally have to provide her an education and you legally have to present her at school. If you are allowing her to leave then you are preventing her accessing her education.

how is dumpling her in reception all day with her mum providing education?

That isn't the point of what they are doing. They are trying to support her but still keep her in the school building. If ahe is in the building and calm, then they can work towards getting her back into class. That is not possible if mum takes her home.

I can assure you off rolling is a very common practice. I've seen it in action at 3 other schools as well as ours.

Yes she has a diagnosis of ASD and Anxiety. There has been no plan in place as yet. School are unhappy that I won't agree to a plan meaning I sit with her in reception all day. DD needs an EHCP but school isn't able to support my request as they have no plan...It's a mess. I have no problem engaging with school but it is crazy hard to get any communication and the SENCo is permanently unavailable as is the mental health lead.

Of course, if she would drag her daughter by the hair into the school gate, then they would call them again. What a strange country this one is. Goodness gracious. People in some form of authority cannot use their own brains so have to waste the precious time of SS who really are failing kids who get murdered daily but have time to round and visit families who just have a ND kid.

It's still not providing education though is it. They could support her by applying for an ehcna or implementing the Ed psych recommendations but they're not

I know plenty of children with needs thst severe and worse who have got to year 8 without an ehcp, it’s really not uncommon

I've never 'moaned to them' about anything!

They have no evidence, so I know I shouldn't worry - this was what the lady from the LA said but I can't help worrying.

By the OP's own admiasion they have tried to out a plan in place as the OP has admitted on more than one post that she refuses to agree to it. That is why she ends up sat in reception.

School's can't win!!

I don't think OP was "moaning".
She simply made a complaint, which we're all entitled to do.

Unless you yourself, view complaints as."moaning" which is a bit weird?

Thanks for the advice. I do have an awful lot of evidence I can show them.

No, it's not that. I get her in through the door but then they don't have support for her so she struggles.

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Huge backstory here, very surprised if school would be 'acting maliciously' as they have to back up their referrals. It's incredibly hard to get CSC to pick up cases so usually it has to be significant enough to warrant the contact

But the plan is that op has to sit in reception, potentially all day so that they can bring child back to her if needed but she remains in the building. Would you be happy doing that and giving up work?

I don't think so. She said it was Children's Services.

Really? Schools lodge malicious SS reports regularly. Especially when you deregister your children to home educate them! Fortunately, most SW's tell them off for wasting their time.

It is for them to decide what is malicious or otherwise. They have lots of referrals and are well able to decide what has merit or not. Just let them do their job. After all you have nothing to hide.