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If a man can't afford to keep me

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sunshinesparklestar · 20/09/2024 13:16

I'm not sure how well this post will go down but AIBU to find it unattractive if a man can't financially support his wife and family? I mean to the point where the wife doesn't have to work if she doesn't want to.

I am a SAHM to my child who is now in school. I have been a SAHM since my maternity leave ended and I have no plans on going back to work. My DH runs a business and earns enough to comfortably support us all. I have things in place which mean I would be financially secure if he was to leave me/pass away and for later in life.

The main AIBU is to find a man who couldn't financially support his wife unattractive? There's a couple who live down my street and she has to work full time and I feel sorry for her leaving so early every morning and coming home way after her children have finished school.

I totally agree with women working if they want/need to but I can't help but feel sorry for them.

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NonsuchCastle · 20/09/2024 19:36

MingingTiles · 20/09/2024 19:28

We all have our own turns ons and turn offs. I once read about a man who was turned on by the idea of himself as an oven-ready chicken. He used to see a prostitute and he’d pretend to be the chicken and get in an oven tray (cardboard box) and she would pretend to put him in the oven. So it takes all sorts, op.

That is effing brilliant! If a little fowl.

Maria1979 · 20/09/2024 19:36

JMSA · 20/09/2024 19:27

Plenty would judge a woman who doesn't work, especially now her child is at school. They would think her dull and lacking in aspiration. They'd think 'but what does she DO all day and what does she have to talk about?'
People in glass houses ...

True. I get that a lot. Until they meet my autistic son. Then they feel sorry for me I think. I feel sorry for myself sometimes. I don't feel sorry for mums with NT children going out to work, I envy them.

floral2027 · 20/09/2024 19:36

Nobodywouldknow · 20/09/2024 19:26

yes It’s a myth. I mean if there’s 800k equity in your house then you probably will be okay as in you will have enough to buy a house. But if your 60-70k earning husband cheats on you and your house only has 200k equity and a large mortgage that you wouldn’t be able to take on yourself then you are pretty screwed. Even if you are given all the sale proceeds (which you normally wouldn’t be) then you’d still really struggle to get something without a mortgage. In the past houses were cheaper. These days your earning capacity is one of the most valuable things you can have. Give it up at your peril.

If you had 800k equity when you have young kids (hence you don't work), you would probably be mid 30s, nearly 40 and your dh is probably an investment banker or someone v wealthy so you could probably pay for a nanny from the start and might be likely to choose that .

Would it be possible for a stay at home mum to get a simple job after she discovers the cheating bastard and buy a home (outside London obviously) with say the 150k equity. Wouldn't she get 95% of childcare costs covered. Or is it not so easy.

Scirocco · 20/09/2024 19:38

adviceneeded1990 · 20/09/2024 19:24

It’s called “finding stuff to do to look busy now that my kids are in school six hours a day.”

We do a seasonal sort out of any clothes grown out of etc and making sure suitable weather options are easily accessible. Takes about 40 mins.

I just go with 3 categories: clean, dirty, for charity.

Although if I ever quit work, maybe I could colour code and organise by complementary colour groups.

222333Annie · 20/09/2024 19:38

I don’t think there is need to feel sorry for working mums.We are ok out here I promise ! There is also no need to look down on SAHMs. OP is entitled to her opinion even though I don’t share it.different strokes for different folks. IMO it’s not wise to expect a man to be able to cover it all in this economy.

PurpleFlower1983 · 20/09/2024 19:39

You do you OP! But no need to feel sorry for the working parents, I actually feel sorry for you. I think working parents are great role models for their children and would hate for my daughter to think she needed a man to provide for her.

Phen0menon · 20/09/2024 19:40

I personally don't believe "running a house" is enough in modern times to occupy an adult productively all week while children are at school. So fundamentally, i find it a lazy choice.

I'd find it unattractive in a man if he thought that was all a woman was good for. I also tend to find that the sort of man who encourages a sahm often isn't particularly willing to spend time with their children or share in the chores at home, and these I find to be unattractive traits.

I love that my husband finds my work & my intellect interesting, and its mutual. I love that he regards me as a peer and an equal. I love that i contribute equally to family finances.

Lovelylilylane · 20/09/2024 19:42

ilovesooty · 20/09/2024 19:11

If a woman told a date that she had absolutely no intention of working after marriage and thought it would be her right to be a kept woman because men have everything their own way (to paraphrase a couple of earlier posts) I'd be surprised if most men didn't drop her pretty sharpish.

I had several offers of marriage. Never scared anyone off. They were all kind, hardworking and traditional family oriented men. Wanting a stable, loving family life is not abnormal. I love being a housewife and mother. My husband loves the calm it brings too.

StarDolphins · 20/09/2024 19:43

Is there anything else you like about your rich husband?

Snowfalling · 20/09/2024 19:43

I'm very curious to know... if you had met your husband when you were both in your 20s and he was still establishing himself and not able to keep you, and wouldn't have been able to support you to be a SAHM, would you have found him unattractive?

BettyBardMacDonald · 20/09/2024 19:44

MingingTiles · 20/09/2024 19:28

We all have our own turns ons and turn offs. I once read about a man who was turned on by the idea of himself as an oven-ready chicken. He used to see a prostitute and he’d pretend to be the chicken and get in an oven tray (cardboard box) and she would pretend to put him in the oven. So it takes all sorts, op.

This made my day,thanks! 🤣🤣🤣

Nobodywouldknow · 20/09/2024 19:44

floral2027 · 20/09/2024 19:36

If you had 800k equity when you have young kids (hence you don't work), you would probably be mid 30s, nearly 40 and your dh is probably an investment banker or someone v wealthy so you could probably pay for a nanny from the start and might be likely to choose that .

Would it be possible for a stay at home mum to get a simple job after she discovers the cheating bastard and buy a home (outside London obviously) with say the 150k equity. Wouldn't she get 95% of childcare costs covered. Or is it not so easy.

Yes that’s right. If you’re married to an investment banker earning loads and there are plenty of assets, you will be fine post divorce and well looked after. The risk comes to those where the family income is just enough for one person not to work but definitely still in the modest/normal bracket. Then you’re taking a mega risk because chances are you will struggle were the marriage to break down.

And yes if the mum got a job and therefore a mortgage she could absolutely get somewhere although it might involve having to relocate to a cheaper area. However you need to be realistic about what job you could get if you’ve had say 10-15 years out of the workplace. Let alone if you’ve literally never worked. If she has a degree and previous experience then hopefully she can get something paying maybe 35-40k but on that you wouldn’t be looking at a big mortgage. Maybe 150k so 300k for housing in total which doesn’t get you a lot in many parts of the country. I don’t think 95% of childcare is covered unless you’re on benefits.

timeforanewmoniker · 20/09/2024 19:46

sunshinesparklestar · 20/09/2024 17:50

All this "team" and "partnership" do you not think that apples to SAHM aswell? Me and my DH both pull our weight and work as a team, he goes out to work and I make sure he has a healthy home made dinner to eat when he comes home, his clothes are clean and in the wardrobe, our child and pets are fed and loved, the house is clean, the meals are prepped and ordered, the child's wardrobe is sorted seasonally. I know women who work also do these things but just because I stay at home doesn't make us have less of a partnership.

I know many men who don't have a problem with their partners staying at home, they actually like it and no they aren't controlling. It is instinctive to a man to provide for his family.

At the end of the day my child is looked after by myself, I don't need to ship them off on other family, carers, after school clubs etc. They will always know that mum was there emotionally and physically and dad was able to be the best provider to give them the best opportunities and also be present in their life.

I'm in no doubt that my DH could leave me in the future, of course he could! However everyone assuming he's going to leave me for the secretary, someone in the office etc is vastly off considering he's never with any of these people.

My uncle ended up bedbound for life with a rare illness, if your husband got sick and couldn't work and his business went under because of it, would you dump him?

Lovelylilylane · 20/09/2024 19:46

Josephinesnapoleon · 20/09/2024 19:24

Sadly there is no better proof of how someone’s world shrinks when they have no work. How small their worlds become. How limited they become as individuals following that .

than writing about seasonally sorting a child’s wardrobe.

when that becomes a thing for you, then you need to either get a job or start volunteering. Because that’s just utterly sad, that anyone would even think it was significant enough to write, never mind write it. How small would your world need to be. How limiting. That that would be a thing.

utterly tragic.

Almost as tragic as scrolling mumsnet.

adriftinadenofvipers · 20/09/2024 19:55

PurpleFlower1983 · 20/09/2024 19:39

You do you OP! But no need to feel sorry for the working parents, I actually feel sorry for you. I think working parents are great role models for their children and would hate for my daughter to think she needed a man to provide for her.

I would too, and one is establishing herself in her career, second one is well on the way to doing the same. I would hate either to feel she had to give that up for some man, after all the effort and expense!

Equally, I wouldn't want my DS to have to knock his pan in working to support some lazy woman who just wanted to sit at home (which is exactly what the OP is doing, as her sole child is in school!)

FrancisSeaton · 20/09/2024 19:55

I personally think a woman who doesn't have her own money is massively unattractive

adriftinadenofvipers · 20/09/2024 19:55

Lovelylilylane · 20/09/2024 19:46

Almost as tragic as scrolling mumsnet.

What, you mean like you're doing???! 😂

Yolo12345 · 20/09/2024 19:57

I love my job and my career is very satisfying. I earn my own money and wouldn't swap my financial independence for the world. I love and enjoy my kids but really enjoy using my skills and abilities in the workplace too.

Sunnysundayicecream · 20/09/2024 20:01

When my kids gots to year 5, I went back to work full time, even though my husband has a very good salary. This has developed independence in my children, it has also given me something to focus on outside of the home. Both of us are now putting as much as we can into our pensions, so we can both retire early. My DH has worked really hard and I don't want him to still be working in his old age
Buy me working full time this brings both our retirement plans forwards about ten years!

amothersinstinct · 20/09/2024 20:04

Personally I'd find it deeply unattractive that anyone would want to be kept by anyone else

And I'd find it deeply unattractive and resentful to have to keep my partner

Who knows your husband might think that about you

NiftyKoala · 20/09/2024 20:05

SatansBobbleheadedDashboardOrnament · 20/09/2024 13:20

Well... you're right in thinking this won't go down well in AIBU.

Why are you asking this question? It's blatantly nothing but a weird boast.

Totally a stealth boast.

Nina9870 · 20/09/2024 20:10

I would love to be able to afford not to work. But my husband has a just above average wage, which means I’ll have to go to work on Monday- sob!
you’re very lucky, and if I’m totally honest, if I were in your position, I wouldn’t want to lose it either!
have you ever seen that meme of a woman crying and it says something like ‘when you married for love and not money’!! I’m not saying you don’t love your husband btw, but I relate to it so much 😂

sunshinesparklestar · 20/09/2024 20:10

Just so you all know my DH doesn't work all hours under the sun to support me, he has a nice life with hobbies he can do when he wants to and regular time off when he chooses. Most people on high salaries actually have a lot of freedom.

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UmberFinch · 20/09/2024 20:12

sunshinesparklestar · 20/09/2024 20:10

Just so you all know my DH doesn't work all hours under the sun to support me, he has a nice life with hobbies he can do when he wants to and regular time off when he chooses. Most people on high salaries actually have a lot of freedom.

Most people on high salaries don’t earn their money they steal it.

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