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To be frustrated with my friend who’s become a “guru” after a trip to India?

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Silentfriend · 20/09/2024 08:21

My friend recently went to India and has returned with a completely new attitude. She now acts like she’s a life guru, constantly telling people to quit their jobs, disregard their managers, and dismisses “first-world problems” with a “you just don’t understand” attitude. She even created a separate Instagram page to give out life advice, though it seems more like she’s having a mid-life crisis rather than offering genuine wisdom.

I’m getting really tired of her constant preachiness and the way she’s acting superior. AIBU to feel frustrated with her attitude and the way she’s using her trip as a platform to push her new “enlightened” persona?

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EmeraldRoulette · 20/09/2024 13:22

@NobbyNeighbour now you’ve confused me because you said to look at his Insta for a lesson in how to make money - and then replied to me saying you don’t know how he makes money 😂

EmeraldRoulette · 20/09/2024 13:24

Yazzi · 20/09/2024 12:36

This makes me think of Manny from Black Books when he swallows the little book of calm!

I love this

Add a drop of lavender to your milk and leave town with an orange…or something 😂

NobbyNeighbour · 20/09/2024 13:27

EmeraldRoulette · 20/09/2024 13:22

@NobbyNeighbour now you’ve confused me because you said to look at his Insta for a lesson in how to make money - and then replied to me saying you don’t know how he makes money 😂

Well im not helping myself as i haven’t watched his videos.

But there are titles like “manifest yourself money”.

so maybe he makes money by manifesting……but im suspicious that doesn’t actually work. 😁. And that it’s a scam. So does he get his money by gullible people watching his videos, or does he have a premium tier of followers who pay him money for extra manifesting coaching 🤷‍♀️. I haven’t delved that deeply.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 20/09/2024 13:28

If she’s going to pay all our bills and our tickets to India then I’m outta here. However seeing as that’s probably not going to happen I guess for now I’m still whistling Dixie. 🤣

AltitudeCheck · 20/09/2024 13:30

Your thread reminded me of this guy JPs guide to being ultra spiritual 🤣

Turnups · 20/09/2024 13:32

It sounds like something from Absolutely Fabulous and must be extremely irritating!

ErrolTheDragon · 20/09/2024 13:39

Two weeks...oh my. Is this an extreme lack of self-awareness, or breathtaking arrogance or what?😂

I know it's a much overused phrase but I'd probably find I couldn't resist a sorrowful remark about 'cultural appropriation'.

Sailawaygirl · 20/09/2024 13:42

Sounds a little like my mother in law, she's always boasting on socal media about going to temple to make merit so she can get more money! 😂 I not sure that's in Buddhas teaching.

RossGellersCat · 20/09/2024 13:45

My SiL did a similar dance after going to Africa for a few weeks. It lasted a couple of months and then she went back to being her usual self.
I'd be tempted to ignore it all as much as you can and ride it out, it won't last!

NewUserNewName · 20/09/2024 13:58

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 20/09/2024 11:09

Dh has occasionally become a bit of a PITA about ‘Irishness’ ever since he acquired an Irish passport post Brexit - thanks to a grandmother who left Ireland for England in her late teens and never lived there again.

He makes a real Thing of being able to go through EU passport control, while I have to go through ‘others’ - not that it’s ever made more than a very few minutes’ difference.

I thoroughly enjoy pissing him off by saying that his GM’s family weren’t ‘proper’ Irish anyway - they were Protestants in Eire, so probably descended from pretty hardcore Prod. Scottish immigrants a few hundred years ago. 😈 🙂

Why don’t you go through EU passport control with him?
I’m European, and my husband is from a non-EU country, but we were always told to go through EU passport control when we travelled

TimelyIntervention · 20/09/2024 14:00

NobbyNeighbour · 20/09/2024 13:27

Well im not helping myself as i haven’t watched his videos.

But there are titles like “manifest yourself money”.

so maybe he makes money by manifesting……but im suspicious that doesn’t actually work. 😁. And that it’s a scam. So does he get his money by gullible people watching his videos, or does he have a premium tier of followers who pay him money for extra manifesting coaching 🤷‍♀️. I haven’t delved that deeply.

I had a look. For a start he’s holding an online event with tickets starting at $99…

There are always people, gullible, often vulnerable, willing to pay for someone who promises to make their life better.

I’ve never seen his particular brand of bat shittery before. Imagine branding yourself “the yogi with a Lamborghini” and thinking that’s a good thing!

Pudmyboy · 20/09/2024 14:02

Chalatte · 20/09/2024 08:58

Jumping in on this thread. As an Indian this is really quite funny to me! Spiritual materialism is really a thing, where you think you are more spiritual because you've collected more of something--life experience from a trip, in this case!

I would just take a back seat in the next few interactions and try and observe what she says and does. Maybe she really found her spiritual self? Find out what she is selling, and perhaps encourage her to do the same for herself (e.g., quit her job)!

First post nails it again!

bunsnroses1 · 20/09/2024 14:05

Hilarious. My brother had a friend like this in then 90s, standard northern tradie who transformed himself overnight into a spiritual guru. He forbade anyone to use his old name, gained a carribean accent and some interesting clothes and put out volumes upon volumes of cassettes of his repetitious droning over a jingly jangly guitar. As you can imagine, the piss taking was relentless.

He had the last laugh though as he moved to London where they lapped it up and he was surrounded by nubile young yoga bunnies to whom he offered yoni massage. No idea where he is now.

Choosenandenough · 20/09/2024 14:06

I friend qualified as a therapist and I cannot stand her anymore. I can’t open my mouth for fear of being called out on my thought pattern etc. she’s ‘ahead’ of me apparently. I can’t be bothered anymore to be honest, she’s gone from being a friend to a cult leader and I’m over it insufferable.

MorningHood · 20/09/2024 14:07

I’ve just rewatched the original Karate Kid, where Mr Miyagi spends the entire film imparting his ‘Eastern wisdom’ to Daniel-san.

Maybe give her a new guru name, Missus Miyagi?

samarrange · 20/09/2024 14:07

NewUserNewName · 20/09/2024 13:58

Why don’t you go through EU passport control with him?
I’m European, and my husband is from a non-EU country, but we were always told to go through EU passport control when we travelled

This is correct for now (home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/document/download/8cea3074-8a87-489c-b9c2-d926101ac621_en?filename=Practical%20handbook%20for%20border%20guards_en.pdf), but it's not clear what is going to happen when the EES entry gates come in...

Babadookinthewardrobe · 20/09/2024 14:10

NobbyNeighbour · 20/09/2024 09:58

Ha ha. There's someone in the next village who did this years ago but seems to have actually managed to become a successful guru/cult leader. He has drawn so many people into his circle that I joke to people about the "x village cult".

He has a highly successful instagram account where he gives out his advice. He must be making a fortune because he drives really flash cars. I'm talking Mclaren, not BMW. There's a physical gaggle of them who trot round after him doing yoga and meditation and every now and then they all fuck off to Dubai for months. Why Dubai and not India I don't know. I suspect there's a load of swinging/free love involved.

😂😂😂 gaggle trotting round after him doing yoga. Priceless!

SodaFountainMountain · 20/09/2024 14:10

Chalatte · 20/09/2024 08:58

Jumping in on this thread. As an Indian this is really quite funny to me! Spiritual materialism is really a thing, where you think you are more spiritual because you've collected more of something--life experience from a trip, in this case!

I would just take a back seat in the next few interactions and try and observe what she says and does. Maybe she really found her spiritual self? Find out what she is selling, and perhaps encourage her to do the same for herself (e.g., quit her job)!

I’ve never heard of spiritualist materialism. Makes me remember a colleague who had been on a retreat, talking about her ‘sense of self dropping away’ and when another, younger, colleague said she’d experienced something similar, the first colleague told her she couldn’t have as it takes so long and lots of work to get to that point. I remember thinking she was basically saying, ‘I am the most spiritual here’ which kind of seemed like the opposite of what she was saying. How ‘spiritual’ are you if you are boasting about it and doing that ‘one-up-man thing? A bit like Trump boasting about being ‘the most humble’ 😂

QueensOfTheVolksAge · 20/09/2024 14:24

I think I may have slightly done this with another country that is often almost fetishised by westerners as having a superior way to live and be...

I think it all springboards off of a lot of things. Maybe not being very well travelled, or missing some internal things that need plugging with an invigorating and worthwhile and different new attitude. You definitely feel stronger and learn things about yourself during travels. Or maybe a genuine interest on the other culture, and feeling genuine benefits when using parts of it in our own life. I know I do, and I feel strongly about that, and it's hard sometimes to not evangelise about it :-) it's probably boring to a lot of people but it's everything to me.

I'd just let her get on with it and minimise how much I see it (block or restrict etc). People do change though, and you don't have to proceed forwards with her in your life if you don't appreciate her personal changes.

Silviasilvertoes · 20/09/2024 14:28

I was this person a decade ago, without the trip to India. I was having a breakdown. At the time I thought I had it solved 😂

QueensOfTheVolksAge · 20/09/2024 14:30

@Silviasilvertoes that's really interesting. I hope youre ok now. Your experience totally mirrors my extreme need to do something to jar me out of my then existential crisis!
. Sometimes it has to be extreme, and different, and we have to commit to it to help get us through.

Silviasilvertoes · 20/09/2024 14:32

QueensOfTheVolksAge · 20/09/2024 14:30

@Silviasilvertoes that's really interesting. I hope youre ok now. Your experience totally mirrors my extreme need to do something to jar me out of my then existential crisis!
. Sometimes it has to be extreme, and different, and we have to commit to it to help get us through.

@QueensOfTheVolksAge it wasn’t wasted. I learned a lot that has seen me through some tough times since. I think I was just a bit evangelical about it at the time Confused

muggletops · 20/09/2024 14:37

Cassidyscircus · 20/09/2024 10:54

Oh god.
my sisters ex boyfriend went to India and came back with a whole new name 😂
he went there Neil and came back and insisted everyone called him Bjorg. Went no contact with his parents for being materialistic (they have a normal 3 bed semi),
then promptly moved to Norway. He posts an awful lot of insta posts now of him swimming in a freezing lake in a bobble hat.
🧘‍♀️

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

DadJoke · 20/09/2024 14:38

My ex found spiritually this way and it became her personality - it was the preachiness which did it for me. She’s a lovely person, but it was too much.

ladylasagne · 20/09/2024 14:40

My sister does this kind of thing…best to ignore it. Went to a Thai restaurant with her after she’d been to Thailand (for a week). She was talking about some talisman they had hanging on the wall in this restaurant and how it meant something really spiritual, but couldn’t remember exactly what it was. I asked the waitress about it to find out what it actually meant, and apparently it was just something decorative they‘d bought in Homebase…so spiritual!

I went blackpool for a weekend this year and learnt the ancient zen art of street drinking with groups of punks…maybe I should start an instagram.

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