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To be frustrated with my friend who’s become a “guru” after a trip to India?

204 replies

Silentfriend · 20/09/2024 08:21

My friend recently went to India and has returned with a completely new attitude. She now acts like she’s a life guru, constantly telling people to quit their jobs, disregard their managers, and dismisses “first-world problems” with a “you just don’t understand” attitude. She even created a separate Instagram page to give out life advice, though it seems more like she’s having a mid-life crisis rather than offering genuine wisdom.

I’m getting really tired of her constant preachiness and the way she’s acting superior. AIBU to feel frustrated with her attitude and the way she’s using her trip as a platform to push her new “enlightened” persona?

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Yazzi · 20/09/2024 12:36

This makes me think of Manny from Black Books when he swallows the little book of calm!

Drinkdrinkduuurink · 20/09/2024 12:41

The Beatles went to India and were transformed. Think it was George Harrison that got them into transcendental meditation.

Very spiritual place so its bound to have an effect, though not quite as dramatic as OP's now guru friend!

BadSkiingMum · 20/09/2024 12:47

I don't see anything wrong with someone exploring different cultural practices. For example, you might have a Swedish ancestor so get interested in Sweden and begin to explore Swedish culture, food, language and music. Perhaps you buy a few Swedish things for your home (I think a lot of us do that!), put a Swedish flag pin on your jacket or tell your friends a couple of anecdotes about how things are done in Sweden... But taking on Swedish ideas and claiming that they are authentically your own, getting offended on behalf of Sweden or claiming to actually be Swedish is where it crosses the line.

PortiasBiscuit · 20/09/2024 12:49

Get her to read “Queen Lucia” by EF Benson, one of the funniest books ever written with quite a bit to say about gurus

HaveYouSeenRain · 20/09/2024 12:51

My relative is 27, lived all her life at home (in a separate mortgage and rent free annexe), traveled very little, no children or serious life experiences but is a life coach, yoga teacher and healer of course. She teaches people how to manage their lives, challenges, mental health problems. No qualifications of course (apart from a yoga teaching certificate). And charges £90 for zoom healing.

i feel sorry for people with genuine mental health problems who fall for her and IMO it should not be allowed. But apparently anyone can call themselves life coach.

AcrobaticCardigan · 20/09/2024 12:51

Just the title of this thread made me LOL!

Flowergirl45 · 20/09/2024 12:52

People who went through a real “transformation” does not feel the need to preach to others. They are happy internally and very accepting for other peoples choices.

For me she is insecure and her preaching is a form of lifting up her own ego and self-esteem, nothing to do with personal growth or transformation.

OP think why what she says bothers you. You can work on your reactions, you cannot change her behaviour. Do what your gut is telling you, protect your emotions first.

all the best xxx

HaveYouSeenRain · 20/09/2024 12:52

greencheetah · 20/09/2024 12:13

We can’t have a thread about this type of batshit behaviour without mentioning the lifetime grift of “pretending to be Spanish after a couple of holidays in Majorca” achieved by “Hilaria” Baldwin.

She is the absolute queen of this insanity.

Indeed! And all the kids with spanish names including Ilaria! Just insane

ClaudiaWinklepanda · 20/09/2024 12:53

Ha! It's like those wazzocks who do the Camino, then come back home, dump their partners and get all deep.

autienotnaughty · 20/09/2024 12:59

My sister got into yoga and mediating (slightly before it became fairly universal)

I got a lot of -

"I guess I just experience things on a higher level"

"This is my truth" (usually when she disagreed with someone)

"I'm not in a talking place at this time"

Weirdly when I also got into yoga and meditation a few years later I managed not to be a dick about it.

Same when one of my friends was doing her counselling training "so tell me how does that make you feel"🙄

BadSkiingMum · 20/09/2024 12:59

oakleaffy · 20/09/2024 11:01

That Guardian article is pretty interesting, especially that people tend to recover once they have come back down to earth with a bump in Ohio, Chicago or wherever...

I like a holiday and I like visiting interesting, historical or beautiful places, but I don't think that I am any better that someone who hasn't visited those places, nor have I ever really been convinced that 'going travelling' has any inherent moral or developmental value for a young adult. After all, you take yourself with you and always need to come back sooner or later.

mumsthewordi · 20/09/2024 13:00

I want what she's having

NobbyNeighbour · 20/09/2024 13:08

I’ve always wondered what Alec Baldwin thinks about Hilaria, he must know she’s not Spanish! Does she keep the fake accent up at home?

Cardiganoutsidein · 20/09/2024 13:08

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 20/09/2024 11:09

Dh has occasionally become a bit of a PITA about ‘Irishness’ ever since he acquired an Irish passport post Brexit - thanks to a grandmother who left Ireland for England in her late teens and never lived there again.

He makes a real Thing of being able to go through EU passport control, while I have to go through ‘others’ - not that it’s ever made more than a very few minutes’ difference.

I thoroughly enjoy pissing him off by saying that his GM’s family weren’t ‘proper’ Irish anyway - they were Protestants in Eire, so probably descended from pretty hardcore Prod. Scottish immigrants a few hundred years ago. 😈 🙂

😂😂 this made me LOL!

Fannyfiggs · 20/09/2024 13:08

NobbyNeighbour · 20/09/2024 10:34

They all seem very happy. He calls himself Master X (not actually x, but his name), and they all call him Master 🙈😆. I just looked on insta, he has 768k followers and refers to himself as a yogi. Promotes manifesting and law of attraction

Edited

Is his name Master Bator? I know quite a few of them...

Jewelanemone · 20/09/2024 13:09

This thread has really made me laugh, thank you everyone! 😆

FigTreeInEurope · 20/09/2024 13:09

I mean, this thread is very funny, and far reaching potentially. Perhaps we underestimate her ability to raise our vibrational frequency.

spuddlesmcgoo · 20/09/2024 13:09

Hahah I know the exact type of person you’re talking about, and the funny thing is that they seem completely oblivious to the level of privilege you normally need to have this mindset.

Harping on about first world problems yet the ability to quit a job without another lined up has to be one of the definitions of first world comfort. I think probably 99.9% of people who were miserable at work would just quit if it wasn’t going to plunge them into financial despair - they don’t need her to tell them that 😂

EmeraldRoulette · 20/09/2024 13:09

@NobbyNeighbour I think I know who you mean. I often puzzle about the business model with instagram. I can’t work out if some people are flogging expensive courses or personal tuition or if they have wealthy patrons. Constantly going to Dubai suggests wealthy patron doesn’t it?

@Silentfriend the first thing I think about your friend is it’s going to be a business of some kind. But I can’t figure out how these people are funding things, if they are rich initially and just want the plaudits or what.

I don’t look at this stuff much myself but a close contact went on a business course and was amazed at the numbers of people making money through some kind of spiritual thing. I wasn’t on the course but I’m really curious to know if they actually make money. She was telling me to do something based on my (not ample) knowledge of fluffy stuff that might appeal
to these types.

sorry I’ve gone off on a tangent but the spiritual thing is not the only business I’m suspicious about. I think a lot of people who run a business are actually independently wealthy and present themselves as if they’re making lots from their business.

finally, I’m curious about the poster who said they’d come back from India with a rock solid nervous system…am wondering why.

NobbyNeighbour · 20/09/2024 13:10

Fannyfiggs · 20/09/2024 13:08

Is his name Master Bator? I know quite a few of them...

Master Sri, well worth a look at on social media if you want a laugh and also a lesson in how to be a total grifter and make shed loads of money.

JudgeJ · 20/09/2024 13:12

softmauve · 20/09/2024 09:06

Bless her

Tell her you've been to Blackpool and she cooks chips incorrectly and doesn't appreciate rock and bingo.

NobbyNeighbour · 20/09/2024 13:14

@EmeraldRoulette , no idea how he makes the money. Is it my having YouTube and instagram moniterised as he has so many followers? Do people send him money?

a friend of mine lives in the same village and has managed to avoid the cult. Her garden has a mooring and when we’re sat outside we can see the waterways, he’s sometimes bimbling about on a boat with some followers. They’re often making videos while on the boat.

no idea what goes on in Dubai.

Thebaguette · 20/09/2024 13:14

Chalatte · 20/09/2024 09:51

Should've started a new instagram then!

Won't work for us Indians as white people have taken all our yogi and spiritual coach jobs now... /s 😂

Edited

Don't worry there are plenty of spiritual gurus and health gurus or any time of gurus in India. No one can take away preaching from Indians.
Have experienced too much of it as an Indian 😅

romdowa · 20/09/2024 13:16

Missflowerpots · 20/09/2024 10:12

I once new a man that went to Ireland.
And ever since he came back he was acting like he was Irish.
It was funny to watch.
And somewhat embarrassing at times.

To be fair I'm irish and there's a woman in my town who basically flew over London and came home with a London accent 😅 spent 2 years living in England. 6 years total living with an English man and I haven't a whiff of an English accent. Some people are just a bit strange

HRTQueen · 20/09/2024 13:18

You meet lots of these people in Goa

I am half south Asian and was told a few times that I must feel a connection to India. Erm no I don't. My family are not Indian

My family find it hilarious that particularly middle class British people have an idea of how Asian people are and that we are very spiritual people. My family are not spiritual in anyway (religious yes) and also very materialistic

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