Teachers given lie-ins and extra days off

[LaughingPig]

The Guardian is reporting today that state schools are offering perks in an attempt to attract and retain teachers. These include lie-ins, whereby teachers will start later one day a week, a day off each fortnight and even the chance to work from home.

Clearly there is an issue with getting enough high-quality teachers into the profession and keeping them there. However, I’m not sure how these initiatives will go down with taxpayers on the back of successive teachers’ strikes, schools closing for months during lockdown and now inflation-busting pay rises.

Would you be happy with your DC’s teacher arriving to school late after a relaxing lie-in or logging on from home?

YABU- teachers deserve lie-ins
YANBU- teachers should be in class teaching DC

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There are a lot of people who think they know it all like the op who really don't. Feels like a wind up.

To all the hard working teachers ignore or keep curtains closed all day, seems focused on curtains.

OP is affected because if teachers work from home her husband won't be able to count their cars in the car park at 4pm.

How many times have you made the same points 😂you are a bit stuck.

What do you do for a career @LaughingPig hopefully something that gives value for money which you say you care about 🙄

😂true

There are actually very few people agreeing with OP which is nice to see.

"Working for their wage" means planning and marking every evening after our own children are in bed. Many hours or unpaid overtime you don't see now.

Who "wanders past a teacher's home" ffs?!

Exactly. Just sounds like flexible work to me.

Teacher married to a shift worker. Fucks sake.

Thanks yoyoyo! So many people in so many different jobs out there give their all, and I appreciate them, too. Being paid by taxpayers money usually means you’re doing something society really needs.

Anyone who’s ever been a teacher knows how much these changes are necessary. I leave the house at 7:15 every morning and arrive back home at 6:30. During the day, I am chained to my classroom, I can’t even go for a wee when I want to! I work all through my lunch break. The thought of someone wanting to check that i’m ’working for my wage’ makes my blood boil! If I did have a few extra hours at home, I’d only be planning and marking in them anyway!

The op appears to have lots of time...😂 or her husband perhaps. I suggest a keep curtains closed day to wind her up.

And let’s not forget no teacher actually gets all their PPA done during the PPA time! They already spend a large amount of time at home working.

I work flexibly from home; some mornings I'm logging on at 6am and still in my pyjamas at midday - maybe my hardworking postie thinks I'm a lazy bitch when he rings my doorbell but I might have been working for six hours already. Teachers have to be on site to do the classroom part of their job but I can't see how it makes any difference to parents where they are when they do their marking and planning and if someone is peering at their windows then that person is definitely the problem!

I haven't read anything about this but I'd imagine it's about doing PPA from home.

Nothing else makes any sense - you're not in the classroom anyway so cover is already sorted and there's no other time you could realistically do it because of the children.

I've worked in two schools that already allowed PPA to be done at home and it was great.

Occasionally, I had a 'lie in' and started work at 8am. But most weeks, I started work at 7am, after putting a load of washing on, and it just meant that I didn't have to do planning at any other time during the week because my 2.5 hours PPA (which is nowhere near enough) had doubled and I didn't have to consider the early morning traffic on the road. Or shower and leave the house when I was still half asleep.

I actually did more work rather than less on those days and could use the after school time I'd gained elsewhere for doing displays and assessment etc.

But the positive impact mentally was huge.

No interruptions, a comfortable environment and decent teabags. Perfect.

Edited to add - I got far more work done at home than I ever got/get done at school during PPA. So it actually makes more sense to do it at home.

Northern Ireland has a far better life balance for teachers. In a previous post you slated teachers as your husband observed an empty school car park at 4pm. You are far more likely to see empty school car parks in Northern Ireland schools at 4pm than English schools.

Many primary teachers also have pgce .

We are so, so desperate for staff at the moment and half of us are considering leaving. What would you do to prevent the coming teaching crisis @LaughingPig We’ve already got dozens of groups across school being taught by supply staff. This is going to get worse unless something is done.

I’m a teacher and this week I’ve had a parent accuse me of being deliberately unkind to their child, a child swear at me and hit me. I’ve dealt with four toileting accidents. I’ve attended two after school meetings, one overran and my own child was unhappy with me that I picked them up at 5:30, after dropping them off at 7:30, promising them I’d try not to be too late again. I’ve got work I’m behind on now due to safeguarding incidents for one of children above I need to write up. A chance to take my child to school would be amazing and would make the rest of work easier knowing I’ve got that reward.

Unless I have a meeting I am out of school by 3.10. Don't give a shit who judges me.

@LaughingPig clearly has no idea what a teacher does and how many unpaid hours they work! This is a specific initiative for teachers to be allowed to take their PPA time at home, in peace and quiet, without the constant interruptions that happen in school and without being the easy target for cover. It may however be difficult for smaller schools to roll this out. Lots of larger schools already do it though. It has absolutely nothing to do with teachers being able to have a morning in bed. The Guardian are also at fault for suggesting this, as it is simply not true.

Yep, this is definitely about being able to take PPA from home one day a week, meaning we do all our planning/prep and god knows whatever else, in our homes instead of in school.

For people in other jobs, it’s called “working from home” for us it’s called “having a lie in.”
And people wonder why teachers get defensive from time to time.

You have NO idea, just making clueless assumptions.

DH is a teacher and he leaves the house at 7am to get to school for 7.20am. He does an hours planning/marking/prep in school before the kids come in.

He then does another hour from 4-5pm before heading off to collect our son from nursery.

Once we’ve put our son to bed, he then does another hours planning most nights as well. Sometimes he even does work on the weekend.

This is what 80% of his colleagues do with children. He gets such little time with our son due to planning/prepping/marking school work that it enrages me when people like you make these assumptions. You have NO idea what teachers are sacrificing to do the job, which is completely underpaid.

Teachers cannot leave site just after 3.

You really have no idea

You are so.full of shit. There's no way your DH is a head. Or if he is he's a head in name only and has never actually taught.

Fucking hell 😳