Teachers given lie-ins and extra days off

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The Guardian is reporting today that state schools are offering perks in an attempt to attract and retain teachers. These include lie-ins, whereby teachers will start later one day a week, a day off each fortnight and even the chance to work from home.

Clearly there is an issue with getting enough high-quality teachers into the profession and keeping them there. However, I’m not sure how these initiatives will go down with taxpayers on the back of successive teachers’ strikes, schools closing for months during lockdown and now inflation-busting pay rises.

Would you be happy with your DC’s teacher arriving to school late after a relaxing lie-in or logging on from home?

YABU- teachers deserve lie-ins
YANBU- teachers should be in class teaching DC

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She doesn't need to work with her husbands 147k head salary.

Why is lockdown a teacher responsibility? Do taxpayers demand a greater service from NHS staff because there was a lockdown that delayed their treatment?

Are you joking? What’s this obsession with people’s blinds and curtains? No teacher with a couple of hours free is going to spend it lying in. Also, you seem to live in one of those fictional communities where everyone knows everyone and keeps tabs on their comings and goings. In the real world, people work all sorts of variations of hours. Some teachers are even… part-time 😱

This thread gets weirder and weirder!

You clearly have no idea how many hours teachers work or how hard it is. I wake up at 5:15 to be at school at 7am. Students start at 7:30 and leave at 3:30. In that whole day I get a short lunch and that is it. I don't even get bathroom breaks. Please tell me another profession where you can't pee if you need to.

I then stay until 5:30 getting my room ready for tomorrow and then drive home. At home I spend another 2 hours grading and making lesson plans every night and I also have my own family to take care of! I go to bed around midnight. On weekends I have work 4-6 hours each day to keep up. I average about 70 hours a week working and am getting paid for less than half those hours. I would love to have one day a month to plan my lessons so I could actually spend an evening or weekend with my own kids.

As for working extra, when would I possibly be able to do that? In all my luxurious free time which is never. If teaching was such a great cush job then we wouldn't have a shortage, but here we are so that says something.

Here is a great idea OP, you become a teacher and take advantage of all the taxpayers. Oh, and keep your curtains open because we will be watching to make sure you aren't taking advantage of us. Bad teachers, how dare they sleep!

I’m for it. The pay is so low - there has to be a way to recruit and retain. Think of all the long hours they do

At my school we have one day a fortnight working from home for PPA. I suspect the reporting didn’t word it that way though. More teacher bashing ensues.

It means I get to take my own kids to school on that day which does wonders for my wellbeing. I’m also more productive without the distractions of being in the building.

Do you live much of your life based on things out-of-touch politicians say?

OP stated he likes what he does. Doesn't mean one is compensated appropriately, nor preclude from wanting that. Most feel a strong obligation to their students and profession.

OP this will really blow your mind.

We can take NCCT at home in Scotland already.

No one cares.

Salaries are decent (£48,000) but very much deserved with all the job entails!!

If it’s high school and they can timetable all lessons on 4 days of the week enabling a day of non-teaching where they can work from home then I don’t see a problem; sound like a pretty good plan.

There used to be (might even still be there) something called Advanced Teacher Status (I think), which was put in for those like the *pollyglot's *son that were seen to be exceptional in the classroom, but It also disappeared.

nb it may have been called something else.

Because, deary, as long as the teacher is in the building there will be someone who will interrupt them, in the same way that when I arrived at school just before 8am I was often into a conversation with the caretaker about something or other in the car park and so it continued. Rarely did I have a hot cup of coffee, it often stayed there all day and as for lunchtime, often a 10 minute sandwich. The numbers quoted are meaningless and I say that as a Maths teacher!

I've cracked this thread.

OP is a curtain maker and she's trying to drum up business by trying to get people to subconsciously think about curtains.

I can sleep easy now.

Just because some teachers aren't in doesn't mean the kids will start or finish any later, just needs clever timetabling, easy to do in secondary particularly.

There are minimum hours the kids have to be in (I think the government just changed this because schools were cutting hours to save money).

They have to do something to keep staff but this won't stop me leaving teaching (in the process of).

I'm a teacher and I get up at half six to be at my desk for eight. A lie in sounds great.

It used to be said that sadly, the best teachers are promoted out of the classroom whereas the mediocre stay there!

@FrippEnos

The advanced practitioner scale (which goes up to over £85k in London) is meant for exceptional class teachers, so it may well be that.

Nah they’re just a bog standard goady fucker. The only grand plan was to generate froth.

Oh - another thing for teachers along with blue light cards - performance related pay has been scrapped 👍

Yet for some unfathomable reason it seems few attain it....🧐

Not the case in any school where I've ever taught.

Got to say I saw a pattern where a significant number of those who sought SLT and up where were less than impressive in front of a class.

If parents think that teachers have such an easy deal because they get to start later one day a week, then they can always retrain as teachers. And soon, the teacher recruitment crisis would be solved. So the incentive actually works, according to your logic.

Typos! I blame the blood rushing to my head as I've just got up and being Melbourne am upside down.

Mine too. The teachers I know and have known who would make the best heads are the ones that don't actually want it because they actually love teaching.

Teachers working conditions are shocking. I'm a
TA and don't know how they do it. The good ones never stop. The least they deserve is one day off a fortnight and a lie in once a week! I can pretty much guarantee that those good ones would probably be catching up on work or planning on their day off anyway!