to think that putting explosives in devices such as pagers and walkie talkies can lead to indiscriminate injuries and killings

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Let's get the first thing out of the way - it's not right to fire missiles and rockets at people - as that can cause indiscriminate injuries as well.

Putting explosives in devices such as pagers and walkie talkies - it sounds clever. Just send a signal and an explosion goes off potentially injuring and killing your opponent who has it. It will also disrupt communication methods.

But once you put the explosive in it, you lose control of where it goes and when it gets blown up. It could be a child has it. It could be on a plane - and might not be picked up by security.

You don't know where it ends up. Which means that it has the potential for unintended consequences.

What about any that didn't go off? Are there objects that have been booby trapped and are just potentially waiting to explode - and who knows where they are? The thing about booby traps is that you just don't know who will set them off.

Booby traps seem to be against the International Humanitarian Law if they can injure civillians.

Customary IHL - Rule 80. Booby-Traps (icrc.org)

So it has been confirmed that there were NO terrorists inside these buildings, hiding in civilian clothes behind civilians?

They have stopped for now though.

Apparently Hezbollah had the capability of firing thousands of rockets per day.

They will never completely stop them, short of all out war, but the Israeli pager attack and follow up air raids have clearly severely limited Hezbollah’s ability to launch rockets in a coordinated way.

Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah, has already stated these attacks have had a massive effect on their operations.

So if a member of Hamas hid in an Israeli school, would the IDF bomb the school to get him? Of course not.

No. Because if it was an Israeli school obviously there would be other ways to capture him.

So are you saying you think a Hamas member hiding in a school is a good idea for him, because he can consider himself safe from attack there?

No terrorist organisation has been defeated by military actions. They might disappear for a while but they always come back.
Hamas was founded in 1987, still in Gaza, despite many operations by the IDF ( they call these "mowing the grass").
Hezbollah was formed in 1982 and still in Lebanon.
The only way is trough negotiations. Unfortunately none of the parties involved, I include the Israeli government in this, are willing to do so and the circle of violence carries on.

Wow, just wow.
“According the international laws, "dignity does not cease with death. Bodies of the deceased and their human remains must also be treated with respect and be protected".
This applies to Hamas and the IDF.

Nope.
According to Sky News,
"Hezbollah has fired 140 rockets into northern Israel today, the Israeli military and the militant group said.
Israel's military said the rockets came in three waves this afternoon, targeting sites along the border.
Hezbollah said it had targeted several sites with Katyusha rockets, including air defence bases and the headquarters of an Israeli armoured brigade they claimed they'd struck for the first time.
It said the rockets were in retaliation for Israeli strikes on villages and homes in southern Lebanon.
The Israeli ambulance service said there were no immediate reports of casualties."

You are proof that there are some people who will defend absolutely any kind of behaviour.

You are wrong and history says otherwise. Negotiations follow when at least one side has been weakened enough to know it cannot win and at best it faces continuous deadlock, at worst crushing defeat. They realise there is no point in continuing. Look at Hamas now - what was it all for?

Then comes a point when the winning side will agree enter into a negotiation. This could be for a variety of reasons such as internal political or economic 'payback' has done its course, but invariably on their terms. There is no way Hamas or Hezbollah will win or achieve their aims. They are undemocratic, greedy and evil. They do not care for their own communities. They operate as if they were in the stone age and no amount of rockets, planes or suicide bombers will defeat Israel. In fact the more they try the stronger Israel becomes. All terrorist organisations achieve is propaganda.

The law doesn’t require any such confirmation for bombing protected civilian buildings to be a war crime. For example, wounded terrorists being treated in a hospital doesn’t affect that hospital’s protection against attack. Attacking it anyway is still a war crime.

The rocket attacks haven’t ceased at all. 😬

No they haven’t!

Armed conflict is caused by a failure in diplomatic negotiations. Negotiations are always still going on via back channels & mediators during every conflict, ever. It is only if one or both sides do not want peace, that armed conflict breaks out and it ends when either the ongoing negotiations succeed or one side surrenders,

Your comment should read:

Negotiations Surrenders follow when at least one side has been weakened enough to know it cannot win and at best it faces continuous deadlock, at worst crushing defeat.

I don't agree this is the rule. It might be with some conflicts but not all. For example, the IRA and the Conservative Government were not negotiating in the 1980's. You are wrong about affirming there were open channels negotiating. Para military groups laid down their arms because intelligence was always one step ahead. Those terrorist's have admitted as much in their writings post conflict. I stand by my previous post.

Neither Hamas nor Hezbollah will gain anything. They have tainted the Palestinian cause. They are at best a propaganda cause which is now tainted and toxic. Neither Egypt nor KSA will seriously entertain their leaders - and this has been the case gong back to Clinton.

If a two state solution happens, it will be notwithstanding terrorist organisations. Only states, including Israel, will make that happen.

They have tainted the Palestinian cause

They have been monstrous, but more people now know about the difficulties Palestinians have faced over the last 76 years than ever did so before.

Yes a lot more people are now aware of Israel's behaviour towards the Palestinians. That is a good thing at least.

Ah yes, the terrorists are continuing to terrorise by slinging non-precision rockets into civilian areas. To what end though? Hezbollah are just a Jew killing Organisation, it’s the only reason they exist.
At least Iron Dome will be having an easier weekend.

You are the perfect example of blind loyalty.

Imagine the IDF scrambling to quickly say whoops we look like total monsters here don't worry we will investigate this, the US are hot on their tale saying we need an explanation for this barbarism right now.. and you come along to try and justify it. Give your head a wobble mate.

I don't agree this is the rule. It might be with some conflicts but not all. For example, the IRA and the Conservative Government were not negotiating in the 1980's. You are wrong about affirming there were open channels negotiating. Para military groups laid down their arms because intelligence was always one step ahead. Those terrorist's have admitted as much in their writings post conflict. I stand by my previous post.

Your disagreement is not based in historical fact.
I said negotiations during armed conflict always continue even if they are only via back channels. Back channels is shorthand for secret/classified negotiations, whereas open channels are publicly acknowledged negotiations.

Here is a quick history of these negotiations from the 1960s to the final 1990s peace treaty:
https://ansionnachfionn.com/2017/05/22/thirty-years-of-secret-talks-and-negotiations-between-britain-and-the-ira/
There is no reason to doubt these secret back channel negotiations laid the foundation for the overt, publicly acknowledged negotiations in the 1990s. Many of these are only now known about due to the 30yr secrecy time expiring making them available to be known publicly.

So you can bet that in addition to the Hamas-Israel publicly acknowledged negotiations going on with Qatar, Egypt and U.S. mediators, there are also back channel negotiations happening too. Why do you think CIA and Shin Bet directors are regularly popping up at the publicly acknowledged negotiations? Usually this is to brief the negotiating teams on any secret agreements or handshakes done via the back channels.

Well, a research conducted by RAND suggests that you are, in fact, incorrect.
The authors data to identify the primary reason for the end of terrorist groups and to statistically analyse how economic conditions, regime type, size, ideology, and group goals affected their survival. They then conducted comparative case studies of specific terrorist groups to understand how they ended.
This is what they concluded:

They studied 648 terrorists groups.
I trust this study. Your opinion is, just that, an opinion.

Sorry, I forgot to post the link to the study:
How Terrorist Groups End: Implications for Countering al Qa'ida | RAND

It was being on the brink of military defeat that brought the IRA to the table.