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Rudeness of people increasing

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Honest1980 · 18/09/2024 11:57

Just that really - not sure whether it's just me or whether other people are experiencing this. Few examples.

Daughter getting braces. One of the admin there messed something up but since being really off with me. I had to send a email and she replied quite curtly. I will complain if happens again but why be so rude?

Ordered full length mirror off amazon, arrived smashed. Had to return it at evri parcelshop. As soon as I walked in with it shop keeper was rude to me firing loads of questions saying wouldn't be accepted because of size etc. Clearly didn't want to accept it. I had trouble scanning qr code, shop keeper shouting at me that I'm not holding phone properly. Really rude. He kept telling me how to hold phone to get qr on screen and I kept telling him qr code on screen between lines cannot understand why not scanning. I knew it was because he didn't want to accept parcel so that made me more stubborn to not take it elsewhere. I was really calm and polite. I asked him to please help me and he actually said "No I'm not going to help you". A few minutes later I said please help otherwise I'll be here all day. He was so rude "OK I'll do it but I'm not touching your phone if I drop and break it you'll sue me you're all the same". He took a picture and scanned it. Then went on about packaging that it better not fall apart etc. It was packaged well.

When I went out of shop I realised that I should have adjusted brightness on phone. I have returned lots of parcels fine. I go to that shop a lot but won't anymore. It's owners son I think, I've never seen him before.

Couple of people at work so rude. Work in large office. Some are in their 50s but act like school kids whispering, purposely blocking corridors when they know you want to get past, one was aghast that I took her lunch put of microwave when she had left it so I could use microwave.

People in shopping centres not moving put of way. Had instance of standing outside shop with my daughter while I looked for something in my bag, plenty of room behind me. Mum and dad with you son all holding hands walked right up to me and just stood there expecting me and my daughter to jump put of way despite being lots of room to.walk.round us. Then says really loudly "excuse you!". I just looked at him and said "walk around". He said something sarcastic when they did walk around.

Eating out. We generally have a good experience but some are so rude and unhelpful.

I know all the above sounds petty and everyone experiences same - and I can deal with it, might be annoyed for a bit but I move on. But it seems to happen a lot and I just wonder if people are becoming more rude and entitled.

Also, do you think that sometimes your appearance affects how you are treated? I've put on some weight (although am losing it now) and before I used to make effort with hair and make up. I've found when I've been my heaviest and not making effort with appearance people have been ruder to me than when I was slimmer and made effort.

Essay over!

OP posts:
Calliopespa · 20/09/2024 17:22

Just waiting to cross a quiet road and an elderly man in a car was inching towards me so I waited patiently. Suddenly he ground to a halt and threw his hands up in the air in frustration the slammed them several times on the steering wheel. Clearly the slow speed had meant I was supposed to cross but… how was I to know ? If it hadnt been his intention he’d no doubt have hooted angrily if I’d nipped across. I think some people are just living at the very edge of their tether. It’s very sad really.

Nickynicks · 20/09/2024 18:40

Impatience has increased too.

Darlingx · 21/09/2024 09:39

fetchacloth · Yesterday 15:27

Darlingx · Yesterday 01:27
I have found since the pandemic people have got more rude less considerate. I have given up telling people not to cycle along the pavement even though a two way cycle lane has been built.They do it at speed on a narrow busy pavement ? There is a class thing where I live where a certain level of entitlement means they take up the entire pavement with kids,prams, dogs and expect me to just jump into the gutter. I now try to stand my ground and wonder has no one taught them single file. I prefer the elderly who have manners and consideration that care about being the little interactions sentiments that make life with fellow humans pleasant and life affirming. I do think technology has created an ‘I culture where its about earpods and zone out . At least I could cry, lose the plot have an argument or create tyranny most passers by would be completely oblivious no one even bothers to press the button at traffic lights to cross , Joggers on the pavement at speed expect you to move out of the way it doesn’t surprise me that a woman was pushed into a bus lane into an incoming bus by a jogger. My partner gets frustrated with being knocked into , trodden on or pram wheels over his foot and no one thanks you for holding the door open. Its the new normal . The best one was at the Opticians the other day I was helping my mother the guy serving us was scrolling his phone and yawning he was older than me! we didn’t buy any glasses there on principle No one seems invested in being a human its all moved online 😂
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Do you live in Solihull by any chance? I could have written this post myself, especially about the forever empty two-way cycle lane built at vast expense 😁
fetchacloth

I don’t but clearly our town is twinning with yours 😂

Pussycat22 · 21/09/2024 10:04

Beautifulweeds , switch their phones off ?

Emmz1510 · 22/09/2024 10:29

Yeah I do agree people in general to seem to be becoming ruder, less patient and more entitled. I do think people have more stress on their shoulders these days though and possibly lost some social skills while in lockdowns. Also people are online more doing shopping and getting their entertainment, so they have less patience and tolerance when out and about for anything that takes times or gets in their way. I think there is probably more pressure on people in the workplace too.
The only example you have that I had question marks about what the microwave one. I would never take someone else’s food out of the microwave unless they said it was done. Some dishes require stirring after a certain amount of heating and then another few minutes. Was their lunch definitely finished cooking?

TicklishMintDuck · 22/09/2024 10:48

I agree with you. I think society has changed. I was replying to a text from my mum whilst I was in Morrisons. I purposely stood in a corner of an aisle not blocking anything and a guy walked right up to me and expected me to move. It was so much easier for him to walk past me! It was quite funny when I look back at it. It can seem hurtful, but try to see the humour in it. Usually when people behave like that, they’re stressed. It’s not an excuse because we have stuff going on too, but it’s not personal either.

Failingatlife22 · 22/09/2024 14:26

I think need a diagram of where you and your daughter were stood in relation to the window and the other family, just for clarity.

Allfur · 22/09/2024 14:29

So are people seriously saying no-one is ever polite and courteous when they're out and about?

Calliopespa · 22/09/2024 17:51

Allfur · 22/09/2024 14:29

So are people seriously saying no-one is ever polite and courteous when they're out and about?

No. They aren’t saying that.
Just that rudeness is increasing.

HamptonPlace · 23/09/2024 09:14

nowhere is perfect to be sure, but this sounds, in your unfortunate case, to be very much an english thing. Sorry for your situation.....

Klozza · 23/09/2024 09:28

I sort of agree, I’m currently 8 months pregnant and was on a train journey home from a work conference recently, journey was just over an hour so seats were not reservable unfortunately, I ended up having to stand the whole time because not one person offered me a seat, even after seeing I was out of breath and struggling a bit as it was very warm that day. The priority seats say for disabled or pregnant people, but obviously you don’t know if someone has a invisible disability so I’d never want to asknsomeone to get up in case they needed it more than me, but the fact that not a single person offered did shock me, I ended up sitting on the floor 🙃 even more suprising to me is that this was in Yorkshire where people are usually so friendly!

I do wonder if it’s because of ‘how I look’ as you’ve said. I’m 28 but look a bit younger, I have a lot of tattoos and piercings, and a bright orange moneypiece in the front of my hair haha, so I tend to find people are ruder to me purely based on that, or seem to have some weird pre-conceived notion about me.

DoTheDinosaurStomp · 23/09/2024 09:47

I generally tell people/make people aware when they're being rude. I cannot abide rudeness.

gannett · 23/09/2024 09:48

"Better in my day" nostalgia is so tiresome. Yes there are rude people around now, as I remember there were in the 2010s and 2000s and 1990s. Almost everything mentioned on this thread also happened 30 years ago.

Somanypiessolittletime · 23/09/2024 10:30

HamptonPlace · 23/09/2024 09:14

nowhere is perfect to be sure, but this sounds, in your unfortunate case, to be very much an english thing. Sorry for your situation.....

What? Why is it an "English thing"?

Luddite26 · 23/09/2024 10:44

I agree with you OP it's every time you go out.
10am sat morning M & S lady served us not 1 smile not 1 thank you. What happened to customer service I think they really wanted us to use self serve but we were paying with money.
Recent visit to Smyths Toys with 4 excited boys looking up at the shelves. We weren't blocking the aisle but a member of staff looked at us and said right guys I need to get through. And thinking he was Moses he used his arms and strode through us all.
I said excuse me would have been fine he tutted and shook his head strutting off.
But he could have got past or said excuse me but he chose to march through us when the kids had £25 each to spend in a toy store I am still cross. If we were giddy in the supermarket I would have calmed the kids down but they were spending some pocket money in the summer hols and they weren't blocking the aisle.

Furrowedboughs453 · 23/09/2024 10:50

Klozza · 23/09/2024 09:28

I sort of agree, I’m currently 8 months pregnant and was on a train journey home from a work conference recently, journey was just over an hour so seats were not reservable unfortunately, I ended up having to stand the whole time because not one person offered me a seat, even after seeing I was out of breath and struggling a bit as it was very warm that day. The priority seats say for disabled or pregnant people, but obviously you don’t know if someone has a invisible disability so I’d never want to asknsomeone to get up in case they needed it more than me, but the fact that not a single person offered did shock me, I ended up sitting on the floor 🙃 even more suprising to me is that this was in Yorkshire where people are usually so friendly!

I do wonder if it’s because of ‘how I look’ as you’ve said. I’m 28 but look a bit younger, I have a lot of tattoos and piercings, and a bright orange moneypiece in the front of my hair haha, so I tend to find people are ruder to me purely based on that, or seem to have some weird pre-conceived notion about me.

I’m sorry you had to stand the whole way. People are so judgemental and lacking in basic kindness.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 23/09/2024 10:51

Klozza · 23/09/2024 09:28

I sort of agree, I’m currently 8 months pregnant and was on a train journey home from a work conference recently, journey was just over an hour so seats were not reservable unfortunately, I ended up having to stand the whole time because not one person offered me a seat, even after seeing I was out of breath and struggling a bit as it was very warm that day. The priority seats say for disabled or pregnant people, but obviously you don’t know if someone has a invisible disability so I’d never want to asknsomeone to get up in case they needed it more than me, but the fact that not a single person offered did shock me, I ended up sitting on the floor 🙃 even more suprising to me is that this was in Yorkshire where people are usually so friendly!

I do wonder if it’s because of ‘how I look’ as you’ve said. I’m 28 but look a bit younger, I have a lot of tattoos and piercings, and a bright orange moneypiece in the front of my hair haha, so I tend to find people are ruder to me purely based on that, or seem to have some weird pre-conceived notion about me.

But then, this happened to me when I was pregnant with my nearly-eighteen year old and it wasn’t unusual then. It sucks but I am not convinced it’s new.

LeavesTrees · 23/09/2024 11:01

I don’t think it’s a new thing really, I just think some people are predisposed to being very rude the same way as you get people the other end of the spectrum that are very polite.

I used to take people being rude personally, but now I see it as a them problem and thank God I’m not them. Imagine being that irritable and obnoxious all of the time! They must drain themselves.

DisabledDemon · 23/09/2024 18:46

Just had an example of it this evening. I'm driving along and I'm on a road that is clear on my side but has intermittent roadworks on the other side (so plenty of room for traffic to pull in between each digging).

So a guy in a white truck comes charging down the road towards me and then stops when he realises that he hasn't got room to pass me. He immediately demands that I reverse. My response is to put my handbrake on and fold my arms. He revs up and acts as if he's going to ram me out of the way. I stay put.

Eventually, he decides that with a little bit of effort, he could actually pass me and does so, walloping my wing mirror with his hand. My response was robust.

I don't think I'm being unreasonable in saying that some men shouldn't be given charge of a tricycle, never mind a truck and I'm not going to be dictated to by some neanderthal with a wank wagon.

Klozza · 23/09/2024 20:41

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 23/09/2024 10:51

But then, this happened to me when I was pregnant with my nearly-eighteen year old and it wasn’t unusual then. It sucks but I am not convinced it’s new.

I think it just depends on the day doesn’t it. When I was pregnant with my now 3 year old back in 2021 living in the same area, I found people much more considerate, but I think it’s just luck of the draw of what dicks are out and about that day 😂

Luddite26 · 23/09/2024 22:18

Wank wagon love it.

DisabledDemon · 24/09/2024 19:49

Luddite26 · 23/09/2024 22:18

Wank wagon love it.

They usually have something macho written on the side like Warrior or Barbarian whereas Twat would be more accurate.

Calliopespa · 24/09/2024 19:54

Somanypiessolittletime · 23/09/2024 10:30

What? Why is it an "English thing"?

Oh we are such Barbarians when it comes to comparing us to the rest of the world!

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