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Skinny shaming is so accepted

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chickenbhunalambbhunaprawnbhunamuchroomrice · 17/09/2024 13:59

I know a lot of people will disagree with me on this, but skinny shaming is so wildly accepted and tolerated due to slim people being at an advantage due to their body size. As if it's acceptable, because they're slim. I've been body shamed my whole life for being slim. Right from when I was at junior school, to now at 30 years old.

I was relentlessly bullied at school and college. I am not an anomaly, I am a 5'5 size 6-8 female with a normal BMI. I don't need to be shamed about my body. The only people who have ever shamed or bullied me about my weight have been fat or obese people. And I'll be honest I'm trying my hardest not to judge them for their eating habits and size, but when it's a running theme I am starting to think that only fat people have a problem with slim people.

'Skinny privilege' shouldn't be an excuse to exempt bullying and shameful behaviour.
Stop trying to normalise skinny shaming just because it's the 'more desirable' image. It's not our fault that agenda has been pushed so much.

AIBU to think that skinny shaming is just as bad as fat shaming, and that slim people aren't to an advantage on this? I don't believe in the whole 'well at least you're skinny and being shamed.' Interested to know others thoughts.

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SGANDRUE · 18/09/2024 10:37

I am really surprised and horrified by the amount of horrible personal comments women( fat or thin) have had to endure!! Why do people think it's OK to make personal remarks about anything to anyone. Men are always making remarks to my overweight husband. Sometimes before they even say hello. Who ate all the pies, then? When Hello would be more appropriate!! He hates it and so do I. Wtf! I'm the one who lives with him, why does it upset others that he is fat??

TheGreatIndoors · 18/09/2024 10:37

I hate being skinny shamed.
In other news, my diamond shoes are too tight.

Idratherbepaddleboarding · 18/09/2024 10:37

LadyKenya · 18/09/2024 10:22

I have a lot of empathy for fat people. I don’t understand how people who are more fortunate can find it in themselves to get really worked up about comments clearly coming from a place of deep hurt.

It is a shame that you cannot extend your range of empathy to include those slim people, who have outlined on this thread how being commented on because of their size has caused them pain as well. Have you read through the whole thread? If you have, and you still feel like this, then that is a shame. Slim, or skinny people should not have to endure horrible comments coming from others, because they have a problem with their own size. That is their problem to deal with. We are not punch bags.

This with bells on!! Why should we accept nasty comments and harsh judgements from other people to make themselves feel better?? Whatever happened to women building each other up, not tearing each other down? I don’t comment or care about other people’s weight, in fact I only ever make nice comments, so why should I accept it from them?

PeachTree500 · 18/09/2024 10:38

LadyKenya · 18/09/2024 10:34

Your real feelings laid bare. Oh well. I just hope that you keep your contemptuous feelings to yourself, in real life.

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I mean if you brought up in real life the fact that it’s so hard how fat people are always making fun of your size 8 body, literally everyone within earshot would rightly think you were a massive twat.

PeachTree500 · 18/09/2024 10:39

Idratherbepaddleboarding · 18/09/2024 10:37

This with bells on!! Why should we accept nasty comments and harsh judgements from other people to make themselves feel better?? Whatever happened to women building each other up, not tearing each other down? I don’t comment or care about other people’s weight, in fact I only ever make nice comments, so why should I accept it from them?

No one should make comments about anyone’s body, especially not nasty ones. But people on this thread are making skinny shaming out to be some kind of massive deal when it just isn’t.

LadyKenya · 18/09/2024 10:41

PeachTree500 · 18/09/2024 10:38

I mean if you brought up in real life the fact that it’s so hard how fat people are always making fun of your size 8 body, literally everyone within earshot would rightly think you were a massive twat.

The more you post, the more you come across as totally unreasonable. But continue to do you.

PeachTree500 · 18/09/2024 10:42

LadyKenya · 18/09/2024 10:41

The more you post, the more you come across as totally unreasonable. But continue to do you.

Are you thin? Do you like being thin?

Sartre · 18/09/2024 10:43

My mum does it to me all of the time. Throughout my childhood she was totally obsessed with her weight and was constantly dieting. Since the menopause she has put a lot of weight on and struggled to shift it so I’d say is a size 18 at a guess from looking. It’s the biggest I’ve ever seen her anyway. As a result, she’s constantly making comments about my weight and how skinny I am. Things like “there’s nothing left of you” and “you’re all skin and bones” and “you have no bum” (not true). I think she’s just insecure as fuck and takes it out on me because I look after myself.

Frozenberries · 18/09/2024 10:44

TinyRowboats · 18/09/2024 10:21

Re read the first post of the thread. She actually asked if she was unreasonable to say skinny shaming is as bad as fat shaming. It's been a comparison thread from the start. She introduced the comparison and asked for people's thoughts. Don't berate people for answering the OP's question!

‘Just as bad as’ not ‘worse than’

she has not said one is worse than the other. Just that shaming someone’s body for their weight is just as bad if they’re skinny as it is if they’re fat. It’s not a race to the bottom

Frozenberries · 18/09/2024 10:46

TheGreatIndoors · 18/09/2024 10:37

I hate being skinny shamed.
In other news, my diamond shoes are too tight.

You clearly haven’t read all the posts…… 🙄
ignorance once again

LadyKenya · 18/09/2024 10:46

PeachTree500 · 18/09/2024 10:42

Are you thin? Do you like being thin?

I am yes, and I am okay with my build now, that was not always the case though. No doubt not helped by the unpleasant comments that I used to receive for being so. Do people honestly believe that there are no slim people who wish that they could put on weight? Those people exist, they just do not talk about it, for obvious reasons.

TinyRowboats · 18/09/2024 10:47

Frozenberries · 18/09/2024 10:44

‘Just as bad as’ not ‘worse than’

she has not said one is worse than the other. Just that shaming someone’s body for their weight is just as bad if they’re skinny as it is if they’re fat. It’s not a race to the bottom

Yes, she asked if other people think that skinny shaming is as bad as fat shaming.

Appropriate responses to that question are - yes it's equally as bad, no it's not as bad or actually it's worse.

All responses have been represented on the thread. You think the two are equally as bad as each other - that's a totally valid response. But other people who think one is worse than the other aren't wrong for answering the question differently to you, and they didn't invent the comparison - they're just answering the question they were asked.

PeachTree500 · 18/09/2024 10:47

SixNewThreads · 18/09/2024 10:37

posters on here who claim their feelings have been really hurt

I don’t understand how people who are more fortunate can find it in themselves to get really worked up about comments

I am sorry that you have selective and conditional empathy. Not everybody has the emotional intelligence to see things from the point of view of others.

You are of that black and white school, ‘if I am ok with it, everybody should be’.

I have empathy for people who are actually in a bad situation. Not people who will manufacture a bad situation for themselves out of anything when they have things pretty fucking good.

SGANDRUE · 18/09/2024 10:48

When I was at school in the 70s and 80s, being a super skinny was definitely not fashionable or an enviable aesthetic. I was treated like a freak! Boys wanted boobs and curves and confidence. So did I!

PeachTree500 · 18/09/2024 10:52

LadyKenya · 18/09/2024 10:46

I am yes, and I am okay with my build now, that was not always the case though. No doubt not helped by the unpleasant comments that I used to receive for being so. Do people honestly believe that there are no slim people who wish that they could put on weight? Those people exist, they just do not talk about it, for obvious reasons.

As I’ve said before, of course I know there are unusually skinny people who will have major issues with their bodies.

The kind of body most people on this thread seem to be talking about - size 8, even size 10 in some cases - I doubt many such people want to put on weight, unless they have a health-related reason to do so.

Why would you want to put weight on when you are slap bang in the middle of the ideal, in beauty terms, and healthy too?

Onwardsandsidewaysyetagain · 18/09/2024 10:53

I think there are frames that are super-skinny which do attract attention, I had a friend who people used to think had an eating disorder but she was just very small framed and ate very little as her stomach used to swell up easily for some reason. I also work with young people and those who have visible EDs will attract negative attention for that, although I don't know if people say that out loud. I do notice it, as I'm very attuned to it if they need help, but I would never comment ever.

I was slim (size 8/10 in old money) and whilst I did get the 'oh you are so skinny' 'your legs are so thin' 'how can you just have had a baby' I think this was mainly admiration/jealousy than genuine dislike of my slim frame.

Luio · 18/09/2024 10:53

BeretRaspberry · 18/09/2024 10:14

The fact that the poster has assumed that the slim person is healthier is exactly what fat shaming is. Slim doesn’t guarantee health.

I have far too many bad habits and hang ups to judge anyone on their body shape. I was simply going on statistical probability which is why I said probably, not definitely. Everyone knows that being a healthy bmi is better for your health than being severely under or over weight.

TinyRowboats · 18/09/2024 10:58

Luio · 18/09/2024 10:53

I have far too many bad habits and hang ups to judge anyone on their body shape. I was simply going on statistical probability which is why I said probably, not definitely. Everyone knows that being a healthy bmi is better for your health than being severely under or over weight.

But the OP, whom you described as 'slim and healthy', has said chemo is a factor in her weight. You immediately jump to slim=healthy even when we're talking about someone recovering from a gruelling disease and treatment regime. You then went on to anticipate how the fat bullies, who are miserable about their own bodies, would suffer joint problems and die early and said that was a comforting thought - I think it's pretty indicative of the fact that you do judge people based on their body size. It's really unpleasant to speculate that fat people will die early and to say that's a positive thing because they made mean comments!

timeforanewmoniker · 18/09/2024 10:59

Why would you be skinny shamed for being a normal weight, I don't understand.

chickenbhunalambbhunaprawnbhunamuchroomrice · 18/09/2024 11:00

TinyRowboats · 18/09/2024 08:53

Well, you asked why people wanted a race to the bottom @chickenbhunalambbhunaprawnbhunamuchroomrice and I'm just pointing out that you did put the question in your first post and people will respond to that question. It's not cherry picking to say that you invited comparison of fat and skinny shaming in your first post and that's why people have compared the two experiences in the thread.

Later, on one of your most recent posts, you upped the ante, asking for slim women to give examples of skinny shaming especially from overweight or obese people - again, your own words. So you don't just want to share your own experiences of being bullied by fat people, you actually want other people to share how fat people specifically have bullied them. Why is that?

Can you please quote where I specifically said 'can you give examples of when fat people have skinny shamed you.' Please. As I have no recollection of asking the posters to do that.

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LadyKenya · 18/09/2024 11:00

Why would you want to put weight on when you are slap bang in the middle of the ideal, in beauty terms, and healthy too?

You do realise that there is not just one standard of beauty, don't you? I felt that I did not measure up to the standard that was important to me. I still don't, but am at peace with how I look now.

TinyRowboats · 18/09/2024 11:01

chickenbhunalambbhunaprawnbhunamuchroomrice · 18/09/2024 11:00

Can you please quote where I specifically said 'can you give examples of when fat people have skinny shamed you.' Please. As I have no recollection of asking the posters to do that.

Your post last night at 21:25.

TinyRowboats · 18/09/2024 11:02

This is the quote @chickenbhunalambbhunaprawnbhunamuchroomrice

I posted to see if other slim people had been body shamed. Especially from overweight or obese people.

PeachTree500 · 18/09/2024 11:03

LadyKenya · 18/09/2024 11:00

Why would you want to put weight on when you are slap bang in the middle of the ideal, in beauty terms, and healthy too?

You do realise that there is not just one standard of beauty, don't you? I felt that I did not measure up to the standard that was important to me. I still don't, but am at peace with how I look now.

Fair enough. I stand corrected.

chickenbhunalambbhunaprawnbhunamuchroomrice · 18/09/2024 11:04

'Someone posted earlier about covert eating disorder indulgence on MN. The OP posting all those pics of her (perfectly nice, normal, slim body) is setting off alarm bells for me and I think it might be something to do with that.'

@PeachTree500

I posted those as I was asked if I was underweight, I was told I was underweight, and I was asked if my shape had changed over the years. I was also told I was in denial and I must be very thin. I posted to everybody can see that I am a normal, healthy weight. I'm proud of my body, if I want to post it, I will.

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