Are you glad you voted Labour ?

[Noangelbuthavingfun]

Sir Keir is firmly in his new seat and appears to be making waves... winter fuel, VAT on private school fees, UEFA watchdog type scenario, budgets... increase in CGT, 20% increase for Jr doctors, immigration learnings from Italy to pay other countries to take Immigrants and that's only what I briefly followed.
So my question is - are you still glad you voted Labour, or that they are in Power if you didn't? And what if you are not happy anymore - why ?
I'm on the fence so trying to be objective ;-)

Let's be clear. If you have paid, or been credited with, 35 years of full National Insurance Contributions in the 50 years between age 16 and age 66, then you will receive a full (new) state pension. If you have credits for between 10 and 34 years, then your state pension will be reduced accordingly, and so will any annual increase.

If you retired before 2016, you will receive a lower (old) state pension, and the increases will be proportionately lower.

If you receive a full new state pension you are ineligible for pension credit. The cutoff is about £3/week below the full new state pension. You will not get Winter Fuel Allowance, nor any of the other benefits and concessions that go with pension credit. If the state pension is your only income there is no further help from the state. Various public and private services may have reduced prices for older people, but they do so at their own cost. There may be some advantage to them - eg if you run a cinema it may be better to show films to the elderly for £5 on a Wednesday morning than have the cinema empty then because the rest of the population is at work or school.

Prescriptions are only charged for in England, and the qualifying age is 60. 'Free travel' in most of the country - London and Merseyside are more generous using Local Authority funds - is limited to local off-peak bus services.

Now I am technically a pensioner (how did that happen?) but I still work part-time, I have private pensions, investment income and a younger wife who is working, and frankly £200 is neither here nor there for me. But for some people who have incomes only just above the state pension it is a very significant loss indeed.

And don't count on free prescriptions and free bus travel being around for ever.

I can't seem to do it but perhaps I should have re-titled the thread "is Labour so far doing what you expected them to do or are you surprised "... or something along them lines!

Yes.

Ye v happy.

Good luck paying the bills when net contributors decide they’re not going to be financially abused.

The quote from Thatcher about running out of other people’s money is most apt.

I am not a fan of Labour in its current form. Pandering, mealy-mouthed, no commitment to any of the ideological underpinnings of the labour movement at all. They accept the Tory view of the economy but water it down slightly to make it more palatable. I didn’t vote for them.

But of course I’m glad they’re in instead of the Tories. Can’t imagine how even lifelong Tories could honestly defend the last government. Would you have been happy for them just to stay in power forever? Because that’s the alternative.

I didn’t vote Labour but right now I’d rather a chimpanzee wearing underpants on its head than the Tories.

We knew things had to be bad. Things will get worse before they can get better. Do I agree with everything? No. But do I hope they find the massive deficit that the Tories left (hello PPE scandal) and get us back on an even keel? Yes. And I’m willing to let them try.

If only I was still young enough to be an intern!

Yes delighted, thanks for asking

Yes. But it's far too soon to make any judgements. They've only just begun clearing up the Tory mess. Ask us again in a couple of years.

I’m so pleased.
Tories can keep complaining but nothing Starmer does is as bad as Bj. It’s so wonderful being in the other side and Tory voters having to suck it up for a change.
ahhh Christmas with the family is going to be so much nicer for me!

I hated the tories but to be honest this lot will also be crap. We really had a terrible choice in either starmer or sunak. Neither one could fry chips.

Not sure what the AIBU is? But on balance, yes so far I prefer them to the previous government.

Yes, champagne socialist here.

I didn't vote Labour (and never will), so on the fence with this really.
The Conservatives really need to get their act together to stand a chance in the next GE.
Meanwhile, there is no effective opposition in Parliament so Starmer and crew will just tax us all to death whilst he can get away with it.

Yes

Yes! I'm excited to see real change in this country.

Financially abused? Fuck me

There are women who are genuinely being financially abused, who have no money of their own due to their abusers taking it, who are unable to escape these abusive relationships and you think it's an acceptable comparison to potential tax rises? Shameful

And "net contributors" can only earn because of the society around them that gives them that opportunity. They should be paying a fair share for the upkeep of that society

Yes.

Yes

Very.

Don't assume these threads are always about Tories trying to provoke a response - I've voted a different party 3 times now in GEs. The Tori government under Boris was dreadful ... no integrity whatsoever . That's pretty important. Do I agree with Labour's stance on everything 🤔 no... but I'm actually pleasantly surprised on some things and very confused about other things they've done (winter fuel as one example) as it goes against what I'd have thought labour is all about . Therefore the question ...

Yep. Think they’ve made a great start. I hope the Tories are out for many many years to come.

Yes

You're on Mumsnet, of course they'll say yes. Posters have been banging on for years about how bad the Tories are, now they have to save face by pretending that Labour aren't just as bad, if not worse.