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DH says he feels like a “mug” and I take advantage

381 replies

IneffableCat · 16/09/2024 13:38

I’ll be brief. A couple of times per year (once or twice) I stay overnight in a hotel with girlfriends which I love doing and it gives me a break. I also see friends for meals out, theatre shows or cinema etc every few months. There’s been a good few comments from my parents in front of DH along the lines of “poor DH, being left to look after the children again while Mum goes out gallivanting!”

A few weeks ago I had a night in London, saw a show and caught up with friends. DH knew about the plan for months in advance and stated that he “didn’t care” what I did. After the comments he said how it’s obvious that I treat him like a “sap” and a “mug” How I’m walking all over him and dumping the kids on him AGAIN.

I’ve got a show booked for a weeks time and told DH about it today and he said again how he was being taken for a mug again and that I should have told him sooner. This is a show in my home town so I’ll only be gone for a few hours.

The friends I see are all child free and my mum has commented that it’s ok for them to go out as they don’t have children. That I need more friends with kids. AIBU?

DH does nothing outside the house, has no interest in a social life or outside hobbies.

OP posts:
FeedingThem · 16/09/2024 14:10

Skybluepinky · 16/09/2024 14:08

His workmates, friends and family will think what he is saying, u r having too much me time.

Not necessarily. People are capable or rational, independent thought

SecondFavouriteDinosaur · 16/09/2024 14:12

Skybluepinky · 16/09/2024 14:08

His workmates, friends and family will think what he is saying, u r having too much me time.

Why? And also, why would anyone care what randoms people who aren’t part of the marriage think?

Angrywife · 16/09/2024 14:12

Sounds almost identical to our set up that's worked for us for years.
I've always asked if he's ok with me booking something, or arranging something. He's always said "why wouldn't I be" or "why would I mind". He says it's important I see my friends, and I appreciate him so much for that.

Mrsttcno1 · 16/09/2024 14:12

FeedingThem · 16/09/2024 14:02

But if he doesn't want it, then that means she can't take it?

Just because he doesn’t want to go anywhere doesn’t mean he can’t have a “night off” though? Free time doesn’t have to be going out somewhere, it could just as easily be a night undisturbed bath/tv time (my baby is 5 months old and I cannot be arsed to go out out but I love an uninterrupted evening while my husband looks after her), it may be easier to think of it as equal “leisure/free” time rather than literally time leaving the house. As long as everybody has the same downtime, or if it’s imbalanced both need to be happy with the set up.

Just4thisthreadtoday · 16/09/2024 14:12

Skybluepinky · 16/09/2024 14:08

His workmates, friends and family will think what he is saying, u r having too much me time.

@Skybluepinky

Who cares what his dickhead mates think??

IneffableCat · 16/09/2024 14:14

confusedlots · 16/09/2024 14:09

For context it would be useful to know how often you go for meals out/cinema/overnights etc with DH? Is it the same frequency or more?

Overnights with DH - our only source of childcare is each other so the kids would be with us!

Otherwise we do lots together, regular meals out, cinema when the children are in school, days out and very occasionally a date night if my parents watch the children for a few hours.

OP posts:
Keha · 16/09/2024 14:15

I probably do 2 or 3 nights away by myself each year (we have a 2 year old and 4 year old). I also probably have an evening/night out every month. I thought that was quite normal/average? My DH doesn't really do nights away but I sometimes take the kids away so he ends up with a night to himself at home. Why would he big a mug for looking after his own kids?

Everanewbie · 16/09/2024 14:15

Hi OP. I really don't think you are doing much wrong here. If you did what you do but made it difficult for DH to do something similar, yes you would be taking advantage of him and treating him like a mug. But he doesn't want to do anything, that's not on you.

Maybe sit down and have a discussion and talk about how important your activities are to you and that you are keen to find, and facilitate something more or less equal that he enjoys. I don't think its fair to expect you to miss out because he doesn't want to do anything.

Nanny0gg · 16/09/2024 14:15

Mrsttcno1 · 16/09/2024 13:44

I think having time to yourself is fine, healthy even, but it does have to be equal rather than one having more than the other. Your childfree friends are in a different position entirely, they will of course have more time than you.

It's not the OP's fault that her DH has no friends and doesn't go out

SecondFavouriteDinosaur · 16/09/2024 14:16

Mrsttcno1 · 16/09/2024 14:12

Just because he doesn’t want to go anywhere doesn’t mean he can’t have a “night off” though? Free time doesn’t have to be going out somewhere, it could just as easily be a night undisturbed bath/tv time (my baby is 5 months old and I cannot be arsed to go out out but I love an uninterrupted evening while my husband looks after her), it may be easier to think of it as equal “leisure/free” time rather than literally time leaving the house. As long as everybody has the same downtime, or if it’s imbalanced both need to be happy with the set up.

As he spends most of his free time playing video games according to the OP, it sounds like he gets plenty of ‘off time’ at home.

VisitationRights · 16/09/2024 14:16

I think he’s being controlling trying to get you to be tied to the home like he is.

it’s a very different situation if you never do anything as a couple or family, or if you denied him equal time to pursue his outside interests or friendships. But that isn’t the case here. He is trying to get you to distance yourself from your friendships, that isn’t right. Especially as you are the main carer to a child with additional needs.

IneffableCat · 16/09/2024 14:16

Just4thisthreadtoday · 16/09/2024 14:12

@Skybluepinky

Who cares what his dickhead mates think??

That’s where it appears to be unequal, it’s always me that’s the one going out where he’s got no interest in seeing anyone outside of our family (apart from his Mum)

OP posts:
sunsetsandboardwalks · 16/09/2024 14:17

@SecondFavouriteDinosaur I didn't say anything about him going out 🙄

I asked whether he got an equal number of childfree nights or evenings to do what he wanted.

That could mean staying home while OP takes the kids.

ParrotPirouette · 16/09/2024 14:18

Everleigh13 · 16/09/2024 13:51

YANBU. I don’t know why your parents are getting involved and making these comments. I take it your Dad never looked after his children by himself?

yes, he is child free whenever he is playing his video games 🙄

Just4thisthreadtoday · 16/09/2024 14:19

IneffableCat · 16/09/2024 14:16

That’s where it appears to be unequal, it’s always me that’s the one going out where he’s got no interest in seeing anyone outside of our family (apart from his Mum)

@IneffableCat

i realise that. It was just a 'stand alone' reply to the other posters comments!

sunsetsandboardwalks · 16/09/2024 14:19

@Just4thisthreadtoday again, I didn't ask about him going away overnight - I asked if he ever got time alone to himself for the night or for the same number of evenings as OP does 🫣

That could mean evenings at home to game while OP is out with the kids, or takes them to her parents for example.

IneffableCat · 16/09/2024 14:20

VisitationRights · 16/09/2024 14:16

I think he’s being controlling trying to get you to be tied to the home like he is.

it’s a very different situation if you never do anything as a couple or family, or if you denied him equal time to pursue his outside interests or friendships. But that isn’t the case here. He is trying to get you to distance yourself from your friendships, that isn’t right. Especially as you are the main carer to a child with additional needs.

That’s what I tell him - our lives are hard, stressful and difficult. We have been pushed to the brink with the amount of stress that we’ve had as a family. Most of the time I’m mentally and physically exhausted and need a break once in a while. Most of the time I look like a mess so it’s nice to dress up occasionally!

OP posts:
ElaineMBenes · 16/09/2024 14:20

If my DH was heading away for overnights either friends a couple of times a year just for fun and with no specific purpose, I'd feel a bit left out and forgotten about to be honest.

Are you serious??!

Just4thisthreadtoday · 16/09/2024 14:21

sunsetsandboardwalks · 16/09/2024 14:19

@Just4thisthreadtoday again, I didn't ask about him going away overnight - I asked if he ever got time alone to himself for the night or for the same number of evenings as OP does 🫣

That could mean evenings at home to game while OP is out with the kids, or takes them to her parents for example.

@sunsetsandboardwalks

he's a gamer. He'll be getting plenty of time to himself.

PotatoBreadForTheWin · 16/09/2024 14:22

Arctangent · 16/09/2024 13:43

I don't think you could be any more reasonable.

It's important to maintain friendships, whether you have children or not.

This. I have a DH like this who does absolutely nothing apart from work and family stuff. It's his choice. I've tried so many times to get him to try to maintain friendships he had from his younger days, but he's just an antisocial type. I don't understand it, but I'm damned if I'm giving you my friends just because he has none!

IneffableCat · 16/09/2024 14:22

sunsetsandboardwalks · 16/09/2024 14:19

@Just4thisthreadtoday again, I didn't ask about him going away overnight - I asked if he ever got time alone to himself for the night or for the same number of evenings as OP does 🫣

That could mean evenings at home to game while OP is out with the kids, or takes them to her parents for example.

I have done that and also leave him be when he’s gaming, I cook the meals and see to the kids/I don’t bother him.

OP posts:
SecondFavouriteDinosaur · 16/09/2024 14:22

sunsetsandboardwalks · 16/09/2024 14:17

@SecondFavouriteDinosaur I didn't say anything about him going out 🙄

I asked whether he got an equal number of childfree nights or evenings to do what he wanted.

That could mean staying home while OP takes the kids.

Sounds like he has plenty of childfree evenings gaming 🤷🏻‍♀️.
Although I certainly wouldn’t be taking my kids away for an evening/night just so my husband could be in the house by himself gaming (that’s his only hobbie, the OP says), when he spends all his free time at home gaming anyway.

IneffableCat · 16/09/2024 14:24

PotatoBreadForTheWin · 16/09/2024 14:22

This. I have a DH like this who does absolutely nothing apart from work and family stuff. It's his choice. I've tried so many times to get him to try to maintain friendships he had from his younger days, but he's just an antisocial type. I don't understand it, but I'm damned if I'm giving you my friends just because he has none!

That’s DH. Just work, family and video games! His choice and that’s what makes him happy but I’ve had to fight to maintain a social life and not be swallowed whole!

OP posts:
anon2022anon · 16/09/2024 14:24

I think I'd tell him you would have far more free time if you give up the nights out, get fed up of only having his company, divorce him and split the kids 50/50 or every other weekend.

How many nights a week does he just check out and leave you to it while he's gaming? That's free time as well.

I don't think I would tell your parents any of your plans any more. Just keep having an occasional night out/ away, and keep yourself sane.

Messen · 16/09/2024 14:25

confusedlots · 16/09/2024 13:51

It sounds a lot to me, but others may well disagree. If my DH was heading away for overnights either friends a couple of times a year just for fun and with no specific purpose, I'd feel a bit left out and forgotten about to be honest. Why aren't you doing these things with him? My DH has been on the odd stag do weekend (most of his friends are married already so there hasn't been that many) and he travels occasionally with work, but apart from that I can't think that he's been away overnight any other times in the 10 years we've been married.

I've had an overnight spa weekend with friends to celebrate our big birthdays, travelled to a different part of the UK to visit a close friend for a weekend when she was going through a difficult time, and been on a hen weekend, but I can't recall any other times I've been away overnight without DH and/or kids, and it would be the same for my other married friends who have families.

This is just your experience, which is fine. It would be completely atypical for my friends and they are from a variety of backgrounds and of different ages. I’d find the approach you describe absolutely suffocating. But you do you!