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DH says he feels like a “mug” and I take advantage

381 replies

IneffableCat · 16/09/2024 13:38

I’ll be brief. A couple of times per year (once or twice) I stay overnight in a hotel with girlfriends which I love doing and it gives me a break. I also see friends for meals out, theatre shows or cinema etc every few months. There’s been a good few comments from my parents in front of DH along the lines of “poor DH, being left to look after the children again while Mum goes out gallivanting!”

A few weeks ago I had a night in London, saw a show and caught up with friends. DH knew about the plan for months in advance and stated that he “didn’t care” what I did. After the comments he said how it’s obvious that I treat him like a “sap” and a “mug” How I’m walking all over him and dumping the kids on him AGAIN.

I’ve got a show booked for a weeks time and told DH about it today and he said again how he was being taken for a mug again and that I should have told him sooner. This is a show in my home town so I’ll only be gone for a few hours.

The friends I see are all child free and my mum has commented that it’s ok for them to go out as they don’t have children. That I need more friends with kids. AIBU?

DH does nothing outside the house, has no interest in a social life or outside hobbies.

OP posts:
TeaOrCoffeeOrHotChocolate · 22/09/2024 00:37

If your parents and husband have such a problem with it, then here's the solution- your parents can look after the kids, you can go away with friends and your husband chills at home on his own. Then everyone is happy!

SeeMeRun · 23/09/2024 05:53

confusedlots · 16/09/2024 13:51

It sounds a lot to me, but others may well disagree. If my DH was heading away for overnights either friends a couple of times a year just for fun and with no specific purpose, I'd feel a bit left out and forgotten about to be honest. Why aren't you doing these things with him? My DH has been on the odd stag do weekend (most of his friends are married already so there hasn't been that many) and he travels occasionally with work, but apart from that I can't think that he's been away overnight any other times in the 10 years we've been married.

I've had an overnight spa weekend with friends to celebrate our big birthdays, travelled to a different part of the UK to visit a close friend for a weekend when she was going through a difficult time, and been on a hen weekend, but I can't recall any other times I've been away overnight without DH and/or kids, and it would be the same for my other married friends who have families.

Yeah, a lot of us will disagree. What kind of relationship needs people to be together and do everything with each other 24/7. Nothing worse arranging a pals night out and someone says ‘is it plus 1’… no it’s not, it’s pals only, why would they want to come, can’t you spend time with your pals alone.

I have my own hobbies. My husband has his. He has every right to ‘galivant’ as much as me but chooses not to. He doesn’t moan about it because i’d shut that right down.
no way am I spending every hour in the house by his side. I like having my own friends and doing things that don’t include him and the kids.

we’ve both always been quite independent and our relationship works. I didn’t enter a relationship and have kids to lose my sense of self. I’m still me.

Lackinginspecialskills · 23/09/2024 16:38

I had a similar convo with my husband last week - I probably go out maybe one night a week or every other week, he goes out rarely because his friends have largely moved away and he’s made no effort to cultivate parent friends locally like I have. I don’t feel it’s my fault this has happened, he’s just an home body annd a bit socially awkward and unless we go out together he rarely does.

I then looked around me and realised most of my mum friends have similar partners. Women are just more motivated socially and men seem to get lazier as they get older (we’re early 50s) and perhaps we don’t want to drink so much anymore, so while I might meet a friend for the theatre or a coffee/lunch/walk they wouldn’t do that.

ignore your parents OP, you need to look after your mental health. You’re being normal.

WhatMummyMakesSheEats · 23/09/2024 20:46

So who is ‘on call’ for the kids while he’s gaming? My husband also games and he usually says ‘do you mind if I game tonight?’ Meaning ‘do you mind if you do bedtime and listen out for them?’. So while you might be out the house, if he likes to game as his hobby, surely it’s not as uneven as he’s making it out to be… or if it’s not can the compromise be that he gets uninterrupted gaming nights if that’s what he wants to do with his time?

Callsluvsbunnies · 01/10/2024 11:07

It sounds like you're acting like a single woman with the amount of times you're out and about! You have children now and that's what your folks are telling you. No harm in going out occasionally, maybe on a special occasion, but not so often. Your husband is getting fed up and I'm not surprised. You're taking advantage of his generosity. The days of you being single like your friends are gone. You need to concentrate on veing a wife and mother now.

BitOutOfPractice · 01/10/2024 11:13

Hellodollydaydream · 17/09/2024 17:54

You do sound like you go gallivanting too much but are trying to gloss over it in fact you sound just like my ex sister-in-law-now they're in lies another story

Gallivanting is my absolute favourite thing to do.

Funny isn’t it that only women are frowned on for gallivanting.

ElaineMBenes · 01/10/2024 11:34

Callsluvsbunnies · 01/10/2024 11:07

It sounds like you're acting like a single woman with the amount of times you're out and about! You have children now and that's what your folks are telling you. No harm in going out occasionally, maybe on a special occasion, but not so often. Your husband is getting fed up and I'm not surprised. You're taking advantage of his generosity. The days of you being single like your friends are gone. You need to concentrate on veing a wife and mother now.

Edited

What a load of rubbish!! Having children doesn't mean you only go out on special occasions.

You'd be horrified at my life!

Callsluvsbunnies · 01/10/2024 14:41

I'm more horrified at your poor husband and kids lives. Seems like it's all about 'poor me' and" it's always everyone else's fault. Grow up.

Dollshousedolly · 01/10/2024 14:46

amothersinstinct · 16/09/2024 13:42

Does he go out as well with his friends? I guess if my husband was out on overnights with children friends regularly I'd get a bit 😳

The OP says she has has overnight trips with her friends once or twice a year - good on her.

MinnieMountain · 01/10/2024 15:00

I’m horrified at your lack of reading comprehension @Callsluvsbunnies .

FrenchandSaunders · 01/10/2024 15:27

My mum was like this. Horrified to hear I was going away with friends for a weekend and “leaving the children”🤣

”who will have them?” …. Ummm their dad!

When my dad died in his 60s, my mum was very lonely. She hadn’t nurtured her friendships, put everything into marriage and children. It’s really not healthy.

MordantandPuckish · 01/10/2024 16:25

Callsluvsbunnies · 01/10/2024 11:07

It sounds like you're acting like a single woman with the amount of times you're out and about! You have children now and that's what your folks are telling you. No harm in going out occasionally, maybe on a special occasion, but not so often. Your husband is getting fed up and I'm not surprised. You're taking advantage of his generosity. The days of you being single like your friends are gone. You need to concentrate on veing a wife and mother now.

Edited

Imagine it, having children and still having friendships and a social life! The idea!🙄

Callsluvsbunnies · 01/10/2024 16:45

Your snappy reply would indicate that you know I'm right and you don't like the truth.

Bangwam1 · 01/10/2024 16:47

Screw that nonsense. Go out even more. He can have the same time for things he enjoys but don’t you dare stop doing things that make you happy and keep you sane.

Bangwam1 · 01/10/2024 16:57

Callsluvsbunnies · 01/10/2024 14:41

I'm more horrified at your poor husband and kids lives. Seems like it's all about 'poor me' and" it's always everyone else's fault. Grow up.

Go back to the 50s

Women should hold on tightly to their identity,

Notamum12345577 · 01/10/2024 17:03

IneffableCat · 16/09/2024 13:38

I’ll be brief. A couple of times per year (once or twice) I stay overnight in a hotel with girlfriends which I love doing and it gives me a break. I also see friends for meals out, theatre shows or cinema etc every few months. There’s been a good few comments from my parents in front of DH along the lines of “poor DH, being left to look after the children again while Mum goes out gallivanting!”

A few weeks ago I had a night in London, saw a show and caught up with friends. DH knew about the plan for months in advance and stated that he “didn’t care” what I did. After the comments he said how it’s obvious that I treat him like a “sap” and a “mug” How I’m walking all over him and dumping the kids on him AGAIN.

I’ve got a show booked for a weeks time and told DH about it today and he said again how he was being taken for a mug again and that I should have told him sooner. This is a show in my home town so I’ll only be gone for a few hours.

The friends I see are all child free and my mum has commented that it’s ok for them to go out as they don’t have children. That I need more friends with kids. AIBU?

DH does nothing outside the house, has no interest in a social life or outside hobbies.

It’s not like you are going out every week! How old are your parents? Are they of a generation where the dad wouldn’t ever be left with the kids of a night?

Notamum12345577 · 01/10/2024 17:04

amothersinstinct · 16/09/2024 13:42

Does he go out as well with his friends? I guess if my husband was out on overnights with children friends regularly I'd get a bit 😳

Every few months isn’t regular

Notamum12345577 · 01/10/2024 17:14

HelloMyNameIsElderSmurf · 16/09/2024 13:49

It's misogyny, plain and simple. This idea that men shouldn't be expected to cover their own household if the woman is out doing something else - anything else, doesn't matter what it is. I've heard the same comments about men 'babysitting' whether the woman has been out on a hen, doing a hobby, at work, caring for parents, going to medical appointments...

Interestingly I'm just back from a weekend away where my friend (primary school age kids) received something like a dozen texts from her own friends/parents of DC's friends offering to do things like party drop-offs 'To help your DH out.'

I beg of women, don't do this! Why should he need 'helped out' with a perfectly normal weekend routine that she would normally manage on her own???

Anyway. Your husband isn't a mug and I would develop a robust response to your mum, rinse and repeat, to get her stop putting ideas of holy martyrdom into his lazy arsed head.

For clarity here, I’m a man. When our kids were young we used to go out separately maybe twice a month, her probably a bit more than me due to various reasons, but as long as it is fair there shouldn’t be an issue! I hated it when people said they were, or their husbands were, ‘babysitting’ their own kids.
She had to go away once for a little while, and I had women we both know offering to cook me meals etc and bring round for us, as for them it was probably too much as I had to look after the kids, I didn’t discourage that though 🤣

thepariscrimefiles · 01/10/2024 19:15

Callsluvsbunnies · 01/10/2024 16:45

Your snappy reply would indicate that you know I'm right and you don't like the truth.

Nobody thinks you are right. Your opinions belong back in the 1950s.

Are men allowed to go out with their friends or is it only women who need to stay at home?

ElaineMBenes · 01/10/2024 20:16

Your snappy reply would indicate that you know I'm right and you don't like the truth.

Hahahaha

No, you aren't right.

Runnerinthenight · 01/10/2024 20:26

Callsluvsbunnies · 01/10/2024 11:07

It sounds like you're acting like a single woman with the amount of times you're out and about! You have children now and that's what your folks are telling you. No harm in going out occasionally, maybe on a special occasion, but not so often. Your husband is getting fed up and I'm not surprised. You're taking advantage of his generosity. The days of you being single like your friends are gone. You need to concentrate on veing a wife and mother now.

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Are you actually for real??? I can't believe that dinosaurs still exist!!

Runnerinthenight · 01/10/2024 20:31

Callsluvsbunnies · 01/10/2024 14:41

I'm more horrified at your poor husband and kids lives. Seems like it's all about 'poor me' and" it's always everyone else's fault. Grow up.

I'm horrified that someone actually thinks like this - unless you are taking the piss, because I can't believe that anyone really does!!

arethereanyleftatall · 02/10/2024 07:46

Callsluvsbunnies · 01/10/2024 11:07

It sounds like you're acting like a single woman with the amount of times you're out and about! You have children now and that's what your folks are telling you. No harm in going out occasionally, maybe on a special occasion, but not so often. Your husband is getting fed up and I'm not surprised. You're taking advantage of his generosity. The days of you being single like your friends are gone. You need to concentrate on veing a wife and mother now.

Edited

I would absolutely hate to live a life where going out once every few months was considered a lot. Where's the joy?

Callsluvsbunnies · 02/10/2024 14:41

MinnieMountain · 01/10/2024 15:00

I’m horrified at your lack of reading comprehension @Callsluvsbunnies .

I'm amused by your lack of common sense.🤣

SecondFavouriteDinosaur · 02/10/2024 14:43

Callsluvsbunnies · 02/10/2024 14:41

I'm amused by your lack of common sense.🤣

So it’s ’common sense’ that a woman’s place should be at home looking after her husband and children, not staying out overnight with friends twice a year, is it?