To ask for help in how to address this with school?

[pervyteacher]

Dd (18) is in her 2nd year of sixth form. Last year when she was 17, an issue arose with a male teacher whose behaviour was highlighted as inappropriate with female pupils, one of whom was my daughter. He had been taking selfies on their phones and sending them links to inappropriate things on social media (I don't know the details as my daughter wasn't involved in the latter, but he did use her phone to take weird selfies). Anyway, at the time I spoke with the school's safeguarding lead who assured me that they were dealing with it and it was referred to the police. The teacher was not suspended and my daughter told me that, while she still saw him occasionally around the school, he'd been advised by the safeguarding lead in no uncertain terms not to have any contact with her.

Today my daughter called me at work upset, saying she had seen him and he had asked her to "meet him in a classroom for a chat". She made and excuse and scarpered with her friend. Later in one of her classes she said she saw him hanging around outside the door looking in, which she assumed was for her. She later left her lesson and said she got herself out of the school as quickly as possible to avoid him, and came home.

I'm really angry that she's being made to feel this way, and although it doesn't seem he's done anything that constitutes a criminal offence and is clearly still employed, I do not think he should be lurking around my daughter making her feel this way.

Before I call the school with all guns blazing, how would you handle this? AIBU to be angry, or do I need to let my now adult daughter handle this? She's only very recently turned 18 if that's relevant.

*I'm a teacher and teach Y7 to Y13 and I can't even fathom how he kept his job unless they covered it up when she was Y11 and brushed it under the carpet.

This teacher sounds like an absolute creep. He thought she wanted to talk to him again because she gave him an awkward smile and invited her into a room with just the two of them!?!??? WTAF???*
The only thing that makes any sense is that the police/lado have investigated the complaint and rightly or wrongly judged it to be malicious.This would explain them telling the teacher to keep away from the girls in question (for hus own protection) and also telling you to report it yourself to the police/lado.I find this very unusual because if they are reporting it , there would be no need.A parent reporting what the school have already reported does not add 'extra weight' as someone suggested.
I do not think the school believe your daughter.I think .it is up to you to push this.

There is nowhere on this thread that says the police found the complaint to be malicious.

Why would you make up that sort of lie? It’s a really nasty way to try and twist things.

Hoping you get some answers today. Good luck.

Nobody , the police or SS could have found any evidence or he would not be still teachimg.what other explanation is there?

That the police haven’t acted on this does not mean it didn’t happen and the girls made up a complaint to get the teacher in trouble.

Not finding corroborating evidence (which I think is what you actually mean by “evidence”) is not the same as finding that the complaint is malicious. But there was evidence and corroborating evidence, OP’s DD’s original complaint is evidence and the friend’s complaint is corroborating evidence. The OP also stated that the school found text messages with links to inappropriate websites between the teacher and the friend. That’s further evidence. Lots of crime that is reported has no more evidence than this. It doesn’t mean it didn’t happen and it certainly doesn’t mean that the report was malicious.

The police not acting means they either think the teacher’s behaviour doesn’t amount to a crime, or they don’t think they can win in court (or that they aren’t prepared to put the resources into it that would be required to do so - a frequent problem with sex-related crime and one that has been highlighted by several reports into the police’s failure to prosecute rapists). For instance, grooming, as a crime, would require he try to meet with the intention of having sexual contact. That probably isn’t something you can prove if so far he’s just sent texts with links to inappropriate content.

But what the teacher has done doesn’t have to be a crime to be wrong or for the school to act. Professional standards require that teachers do more than simply not break the law; safeguarding requires schools to act before laws are broken if they can foresee harm to a student.

Finally, the school have acted. What they’ve done we don’t know (because the school aren’t allowed to discuss staff discipline) except that they have told him he’s not to contact the DD. They may have taken more action than that. It’s not to the level of action that many on this thread think the school should have taken, but there may be good reason (or bad reason) for that.

There is absolutely nothing in this thread that supports your nasty and dangerous accusation. The insistence that if the police haven’t acted the girls must be lying is misogynistic and adds to the social pressures that make it so hard for women to get justice.

OP, I am a safeguarding officer.

One thing we emphasise when doing training is - if you do not think that you complaint has been dealt with, you are entitiled to report to police and LADO yourself.

It doesn't matter if LADO get reports form mutiple sources, it does matter if they get no reports of the incident.

The member of staff has told you, as directly as they can, to contact police and LADO.
This is not a case of reporting to governors or ofsted this is a police LADO matter.

Please do report.

To be honest, why have the school allowed a man to remain employed and in contact with a school for of kids but is not allowed contact with a select few? Either he is safe or he isn't?

I would get the police involved straight away and tell them everything. They should send an officer to speak to the teacher in person and this should scare him enough to stop. I doubt school got the police involved last time as they don't want it reflecting badly on them and the public being aware. I would also send an email to the school and the local education authority and safeguarding asking for a meeting. I would also consider taking an injuction out preventing the teacher going near your daughter. It's harassment, and if he breaks it, the police will haul him in. Disgusting behaviour from someone in a teaching roll. I would be fuming!