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Seeing Prisoners celebrating their release?

153 replies

girlfriend44 · 10/09/2024 21:04

Horrible seeing prisoners on the news Celebrating their release. One cracked open a bottle, like you do when your celebrating.
Did the news need to show it?
Not nice for the victims to see this?

Why are there so many people in prison anyway?😮

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GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 10/09/2024 21:05

I hope they’ve credited the former Tory govt for creating this situation - would hate them to be ungrateful!

Rubyandscarlett · 10/09/2024 21:05

It gave me the ick a bit too op.

Newsenmum · 10/09/2024 21:06

Do we know what they were in for?
The positive part of me is trying to think - great! Now they can move on and live a better life. I hope.

Ponoka7 · 10/09/2024 21:06

Well they are there because they were found guilty of what they were charged with. So you don't believe in rehabilitation and fresh starts? I know a woman who got a very harsh sentence, her getting out was a celebration.

girlfriend44 · 10/09/2024 21:15

Ponoka7 · 10/09/2024 21:06

Well they are there because they were found guilty of what they were charged with. So you don't believe in rehabilitation and fresh starts? I know a woman who got a very harsh sentence, her getting out was a celebration.

Who says it was a harsh sentence, bet the viictim didnt?

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Bruisername · 10/09/2024 21:18

I’ve been curious to know what kind of crimes the people currently being sentenced are committing to take these newly freed up spaces. I know we have the rioters. But then there are people who have committed serious assaults etc.

are some people currently being sentenced not getting a jail sentence to keep the numbers down when they normally would for their crime?

Bruisername · 10/09/2024 21:19

Newsenmum · 10/09/2024 21:06

Do we know what they were in for?
The positive part of me is trying to think - great! Now they can move on and live a better life. I hope.

There was a guy interviewed who said he had nowhere to go and would probably end up on a bench and drinking again so he expected to end up inside again.

Maddy70 · 10/09/2024 21:19

Surely anyone would celebrate being released from prison?

AGirlInACountrySong · 10/09/2024 21:21

You do know the champagne style celebrations happen with a lot of releases, not just today's!?

It's nothing new at all

I see it most days. It's just cameras rocked up today. I know a prisoner who was released today as his full sentence had ended. Nothing to do with early release scheme

TealPoet · 10/09/2024 21:23

I mean I’d expect them to maybe celebrate in private but to do so in any public way or as if they’ve won is very distasteful yes.

AGirlInACountrySong · 10/09/2024 21:25

They aren't breaking any laws.... up to them

DoreenonTill8 · 10/09/2024 21:30

AGirlInACountrySong · 10/09/2024 21:25

They aren't breaking any laws.... up to them

Well not this time..previously well...

ExtraOnions · 10/09/2024 21:31

Lots of the photos will have been set up by the photographers, to sell to the media, to feed into a narrative.

20,000 were released early under the Tories …

ToBeDetermined · 10/09/2024 21:35

I don’t have any feelings about prisoners celebrating their releases.
They’ve done the time for the crime, so their debt to society is fulfilled.
If they were not happy to get out of prison, I would wonder whether prison was like an all inclusive resort type of place. Prison should be miserable enough that you are glad to get out.
Then there are the family members of the convicts who likely miss them and want them to have a second chance.

So, if they feel like celebrating a new beginning, I’m not going to object to that.

JaniceBattersby · 10/09/2024 21:42

ExtraOnions · 10/09/2024 21:31

Lots of the photos will have been set up by the photographers, to sell to the media, to feed into a narrative.

20,000 were released early under the Tories …

This is untrue. I say this as a member of the media today who was outside a prison and I also know many other journalists who were outside prisons.

The photos weren’t set up. They were genuine. Although there are people released from prison every day, at the prison I was at there were more than 70 being released today which is unprecedented.

I don’t begrudge them their champagne. That’s perfectly normal when people are released from prison. Most of them have served the vast majority of half of their original sentences and are just getting out a few weeks early. Having sat in court and seen dangerous (IMO) people not being jailed in the past few months partly because the prisons are full, I think it’s the right call by the government in an impossible situation.

AGirlInACountrySong · 10/09/2024 21:45

@JaniceBattersby which prison were you at today?

TowerStork · 10/09/2024 22:11

Why wouldn't they celebrate? To think they shouldn't is a very strange perspective.

FawnFrenchieMum · 10/09/2024 22:13

ToBeDetermined · 10/09/2024 21:35

I don’t have any feelings about prisoners celebrating their releases.
They’ve done the time for the crime, so their debt to society is fulfilled.
If they were not happy to get out of prison, I would wonder whether prison was like an all inclusive resort type of place. Prison should be miserable enough that you are glad to get out.
Then there are the family members of the convicts who likely miss them and want them to have a second chance.

So, if they feel like celebrating a new beginning, I’m not going to object to that.

But they haven’t done their time. That’s the point, they are being released early to free up space for others.

JenniferBooth · 10/09/2024 22:16

ToBeDetermined · 10/09/2024 21:35

I don’t have any feelings about prisoners celebrating their releases.
They’ve done the time for the crime, so their debt to society is fulfilled.
If they were not happy to get out of prison, I would wonder whether prison was like an all inclusive resort type of place. Prison should be miserable enough that you are glad to get out.
Then there are the family members of the convicts who likely miss them and want them to have a second chance.

So, if they feel like celebrating a new beginning, I’m not going to object to that.

A while ago there were two threads running at the same time. One about prisoners being released early and another social housing thread. I will leave y"all to to guess who got more support. The prisoners or the SH tenants.

AGirlInACountrySong · 10/09/2024 22:17

They would have been released at the 30%point anyway.....for shorter sentences 40% isn't a massive drop

JaniceBattersby · 10/09/2024 22:17

AGirlInACountrySong · 10/09/2024 21:45

@JaniceBattersby which prison were you at today?

I’d love to say but it would definitely make me identifiable unfortunately. Almost everyone we spoke to being released was at the end of a long drugs sentence or dishonesty offences.

girlfriend44 · 10/09/2024 22:29

TowerStork · 10/09/2024 22:11

Why wouldn't they celebrate? To think they shouldn't is a very strange perspective.

On the TV spare a thought for the victims.

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girlfriend44 · 10/09/2024 22:29

TowerStork · 10/09/2024 22:11

Why wouldn't they celebrate? To think they shouldn't is a very strange perspective.

On the TV spare a thought for the victims.

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stripybobblehat · 10/09/2024 22:29

I imagine if the media hadn't set up camp outside the prisons it would have been more subdued

stripybobblehat · 10/09/2024 22:30

girlfriend44 · 10/09/2024 22:29

On the TV spare a thought for the victims.

It isn't really their fault they are on TV though. I blame the media