Seeing Prisoners celebrating their release?

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Horrible seeing prisoners on the news Celebrating their release. One cracked open a bottle, like you do when your celebrating.
Did the news need to show it?
Not nice for the victims to see this?

Why are there so many people in prison anyway?😮

and for all the bleeding hearts crying over how little help there is for these men, guess how much help there is for the victims?

i am devastated for the victims, but i can also worry about what is in place for the ex-cons too. It helps nobody, not them, certainly not the victims, if they have nowhere to go, nothing to do, no money and start offending again. They may pick new victims, they may go back to their previous victims etc.

I am devastated for society that we are in such an awful state that we are releasing people who haven't served all their sentence, so we can jail the next lot of people. We have taken a seriously wrong turn somewhere.

But none of my concern about that means i have none for the victims. Quite the opposite.

I think it comes across worse because it’s newsworthy just now. I do think people would celebrate on the release of their friend/family member anyway, but because it’s so public I do feel bad for any victims.

Well written

They shouldn’t be out of prison then, should they? They’ve got very lucky but still act like victims in many cases, from what I’ve seen. They need to take responsibility for their lives, not look to the public to spend even more money on them. I agree with them having hostel places reserved or something along those lines, but I really have very little in the way of pity for them, they already get far more support than victims do and if they’re likely to reoffend, they shouldn’t be out.

I read in the paper once of a man sent to jail for 4 year for shoplifting he had no criminal past this was his first time.
But another man that was a pedo got 27 months in jail only to do half the time not his first time.
It caused a lot of drama in my old town and i can see why.
Our law is fucked up i never trust it never will.
Life in the uk should mean life not 10-15 years out on tag .or i how i would want it a life for a life.

I went to prison a womans prison its not as bad as some make it out to be.
I did what i did i cant change that but i dont regret it.

I think the right leaning press like showing pictures of ex lags popping bottles and climbing into expensive cars to annoy people on purpose. And to discredit the government's new policy on early release. Of course someone would be celebrating leaving prison. That in itself is normal. They are human beings?!

You're right but I'm also sorry, your posts are heartfelt

Absolutely. And what we saw was a few prisoners celebrating their release. A lot of prisoners were released that day, and we saw a few.

As for why there are so many people in prison - that's a very good question. I think I heard on Radio 4 that something like a third of prisoners had been through the care system in some way as children. Then you've got the people where the behaviour that got them in prison resulted from mental illness or mental health problems. How many people in prison have literacy issues? Those are just for starters.

The problem is our political system doesn't lend itself to non-partisan long term planning and investment to address these childhood and health issues early on. It tends to be reactive, ie, doing something reactive when the headlines look bad like 'cracking down on crime' rather than tackling the causes.

I expect you also think they should be sat in solitary confinement without a tv and stripped of any basic human rights. Prison is the punishment, once they’ve done their time they can do whatever they want and of course they want to celebrate their release. Also the media are only there to get pictures to wind people like you up and it works. Totally understand what you say about victims though. But again perhaps we need to blame the media here??

it is probably just as well, then, for society that it isn't you making the rules.

I get the strength of feeling especially when you or your family have been the victims of crime. And i do think that our sentencing is very skewed at the moment what with all the people in possession of pictures of CSA are being given a slap on the wrist.

But. As a society we have the power to deprive people of their liberty, but we should also have responsibility to at least try to rehabilitate prisoners and ex-prisoners. We need, for society's sake, for us all to pull together and make it work. We need, for society's sake, to all have a stake in the wellbeing of all of us.

That is why we offer free education to all children, why we have welfare benefits etc etc.

It should go without saying, but i will say it anyway (because this ain't my first MN rodeo) that victims should be getting a LOT more support than they do.

i do want to also say to @Naunet and others that i really do get that today (of all days) must be so hard for you, and i really hope that you can come to terms with things and achieve peace.

I'm not on board with all these early releases, but i am also not on board with just chucking prisoners out with zero support. I know that my words are hard for you to read though

One of them was arrested again on suspicion of rape as soon as he set a foot outside the prison.

I think It’s one thing releasing people who’ve not payed their council taxes etc but the they shouldn’t release anyone who’s physically or mentally hurt another person / animal early and I mean in general not just today

Their ‘full time’ is a combination of custody and time out on licence. Their sentence length isn’t changing, just the time in custody part.

It says something when there's a percentage of repeat offenders. The ones who can't manage their lives and their environments and prison is better than being outside.

Completely agree.

So sorry for what you and your daughter must have been through.

There is no justice now, you're right. Just hard left 'educate, rehabilitate ' etc etc- it doesn't work. Full stop.

The least they could do is leave quietly, show a bit of respect. However, anyone who’s gone to prison is unlikely to value the feelings of others so what do you expect 🤷‍♀️

I don't see anything wrong with celebrating being released from prison.
People are only up in arms about these "celebrations" because it is being filmed/photographed.

I know someone who celebrated being released (she was inside for a year). Every year, she spends the anniversary treating herself, and reflects on how far she has come.

Of course, some wont celebrate at all as they have no life on the outside. They will commit a crime just to go back in again.

Prisoners leaving is not normally televised though.

Link?

@ItsTheGAGGGGGGGG this has been widely reported by most media outlets. If you Google it, it comes up straight away.

I heard about this on the radio. There was a warrant out for his arrest, so as soon as he left prison, he was arrested.
The criticism with this was that there was no joining up of departments ie the prison service and the police.

How on earth was an inmate released early yet they had a warrant for their arrest? How can you even have a warrant for your arrest whilst in prison? The whole thing sounds completely crazy, will go and find it myself to have a read

Something he did before his incarceration. I guess an allegation was brought up when he was already in prison. Surely you can still be interviewed under caution when in prison (and still go to court etc). But the point here was that the police and prison service don't seem to communicate that well with each other.

There was a bellend on the tube yesterday talking very loudly into his phone why he deserved to be released. He was clearly wanting a reaction but nobody gave it to him. He mentioned not being able to wait to get back to his lambo and Guccis whatever that meant!