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To worry about oldest friend - barely any contact from her for 9 months

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EmeraldDreams73 · 08/09/2024 16:03

This is likely to be long, I'm sorry.

My oldest friend, P, lives about 1.5 hours from me, we've been very close for 45 years. Pre-technology we had the odd year or two where we just caught up by letter, but have been in very regular contact (usually WhatsApp) for probably the last 20 years. Our kids are similar ages. It's been rare for us to go more than a few days without contact, or a couple of weeks absolute max, though it ebbs and flows as we're both busy. We've been a huge support to each other for many years.

I got married 9 months ago (no, I didn't bombard her with tons of wedding shit beforehand! We had the odd chat about plans, she was definitely excited for it). She did a beautiful reading which was fab and I mentioned her in my speech, she and her family had a great time from what I could tell. No falling out or cross words at all. We were in touch briefly over Christmas as usual, but didn't manage to meet up (but had seen each other at the wedding just before, so I wasn't concerned).

I know she's always under a lot of pressure with work (p/t but very demanding), and I do remember her saying in January that she'd probably be a bit quieter than usual for a few weeks, as there was a lot going on with elderly parents and in laws as well. Obviously I said no problem, I don't want to add to her worries/stress with my own expectations, and said I'm here any time, don't worry at all.

But here we are in Sept and I've heard almost nothing from her since January and I'm worried. I suddenly know nothing at all about what's happening in her life when for 45 years we've had a pretty good idea of what's going on for each other. She has sent kind messages/ cards for my birthday and to my dds, all of which seem perfectly normal, but has given zero updates on her own life and asked for zero support, whereas she normally relies on me for emotional support, as I do her.

It just feels like something major must be going on and I miss her and I suppose I'm upset at the thought that she would normally want to talk to me but for some reason doesn't atm. I've tried really hard not to be upset but the longer it goes on, can't help it. It feels like grief.

I have messaged her a few times, never asking for anything from her, just giving brief bits of news as normal at first, and reiterating now and then that I was thinking of her and hoped she was OK. I've left it weeks on end between messages and tried to keep anything I do send as very short and low key, just checking in and never asking for a reply etc. I have said that I'm worried about her and that I'm here if she needs me, she responded with a heart emoji but still no contact. I'm almost sure she's not upset with me, there's been nothing I can think of at all but it often keeps me awake at night wondering.

Of course I realises she has no obligation to keep me in the loop, but after 45 years of being so close, and after multiple school hols where I hoped she'd get in touch (she works in education, as does her DP), I'm getting increasingly worried. I am also feeling hurt if I'm honest, not that I'd tell her - I don't want to make whatever she's going through about me. I do know that she's been struggling with menopause and she's had mh difficulties in the past, as has her DP and several members of her extended family.

I had an issue with another friend a few months ago (v different character and not a mutual friend, she was spectacularly bitchy to me and I was extremely upset but we sorted it out). While that was going on I did send P a more emotional message late one night - I felt like I was losing all my oldest friends, though didn't say that. Just said I really hoped she was OK, and if I'd done anything to upset her to please let me know, told her how much she means to me etc. She didn't answer that, which I took to mean that it's nothing I've done, and have made sure since to just send occasional, low key messages.

We have one mutual friend who is very blunt (and pretty rude at times, v different to both me and P) and when P has gone quiet in the past we would normally ask each other if she was OK. When I did this around March, she didn't reply and has ignored a couple of other enquiries - very out of character but we are in touch as normal, so I've assumed she either isn't worried, or has heard from P and she just doesn't want to be in close touch with me for now/at all. Which is fuelling the worry!

Has anyone else had this happen? I miss P so much. It feels like I'm being kept firmly at arm's length - she sends cards and the odd message (eg good luck to dd2 when she started college last week), it feels bizarre to have that contact without the other side of our friendship, ie any knowledge at all of what's going on for her. I want to help, to listen, to know if she's OK.

AIBU to be worried? I wouldn't dream of contacting her parents or anything, but it's so upsetting. Should I stop even my attempts at keeping things low key in case they're construed as pressure? Or keep going in the hope that whatever is going on, she eventually feels she wants to reconnect?

Sorry this is so long.

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fashionqueen0123 · 23/01/2025 18:08

EmeraldDreams73 · 22/01/2025 15:46

Thanks all! Yes, still on for Saturday, we have arranged to meet up so I will let you all know...

Feeling quite nervous about it tbh. Assuming she turns up, I intend to do FAR more listening than talking obvs, but still v worried. Partly about getting a character assassination and regretting it/making it worse by snapping back, but then again there's not much to make worse really! I do still want to know, though, so we shall see.

I would be itching to know what her bad excuse is for all of this.

TheRozzers · 23/01/2025 18:09

Good luck for Saturday and make sure she doesn't avoid the topic by using the time for idle chit chat. You need to ask her outright what's going on.

Theextraordinaryisintheordinary · 23/01/2025 18:27

Did you find out her reasons? Hope you’re ok.

EmeraldDreams73 · 23/01/2025 18:29

Theextraordinaryisintheordinary · 23/01/2025 18:27

Did you find out her reasons? Hope you’re ok.

Not yet! Barely a squeak since arranging the date so she's clearly decided to say whatever it is in person, which is fine. So I'm still wondering. Well, less so now, but I'm stubborn and will see it through now she's agreed a date!

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Tara336 · 23/01/2025 18:52

EmeraldDreams73 · 22/01/2025 15:46

Thanks all! Yes, still on for Saturday, we have arranged to meet up so I will let you all know...

Feeling quite nervous about it tbh. Assuming she turns up, I intend to do FAR more listening than talking obvs, but still v worried. Partly about getting a character assassination and regretting it/making it worse by snapping back, but then again there's not much to make worse really! I do still want to know, though, so we shall see.

Please stop blaming yourself your friend needs to listen too. She could have spoken to you a long time ago, cleared the air or explained what she was going through but instead she has treated you appallingly please remember you matter too

CreationNat1on · 23/01/2025 19:49

Rooting for you OP ❤️

Bubblebubbletoil · 23/01/2025 20:15

Good luck OP!! Also following with interest as I have experienced something similar to you recently… as yet unresolved!
Sounds like you have your head together xx

vikingnorthutsiresouthutsire · 23/01/2025 20:56

This is so bizarre! Hoping it goes ok on Saturday for you.

Cyclingalong · 25/01/2025 03:44

Regardless of what happens convey the impression your social life is busy and she’s lucky to have a slot.
Budge up Bollihobs - I need a space in this cafe. Good luck OP.

DowntonNabby · 25/01/2025 09:16

Hope today goes well @EmeraldDreams73. Don’t let her make out you were at fault and therefore deserving of her cruel treatment.

EmeraldDreams73 · 25/01/2025 09:41

Thank you! I'm SO nervous.

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Miffylou · 25/01/2025 09:49

Good luck! Obviously you don’t want a slanging match but you’re allowed to defend yourself! There’s no shame in letting her know how worried you were about her (I’m thinking of your first few posts) and how hurt by her you feel. If it does turn out to have been all about the delayed gift, it’s ridiculous for her to have acted in that way to such an old friend. My bet is that your recent marriage is somehow at the root of it all, as perhaps she (unjustifiably) felt she’d been displaced in your life.

BitOutOfPractice · 25/01/2025 09:51

Good luck op!

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 25/01/2025 09:55

I thought that was going to be an update saying she'd cancelled.

Why am I so invested?!

TaylorSwish · 25/01/2025 10:06

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 25/01/2025 09:55

I thought that was going to be an update saying she'd cancelled.

Why am I so invested?!

Same here.

crumbsonmyface · 25/01/2025 10:07

Good luck! Hope it all goes well x

fashionqueen0123 · 25/01/2025 10:10

EmeraldDreams73 · 23/01/2025 18:29

Not yet! Barely a squeak since arranging the date so she's clearly decided to say whatever it is in person, which is fine. So I'm still wondering. Well, less so now, but I'm stubborn and will see it through now she's agreed a date!

I think that’s good. It will be easier to question her in person!

Curtainqueen · 25/01/2025 10:15

I thought you hadn't arranged a time or a place yet?

Crankyracoon · 25/01/2025 10:27

Good luck today @EmeraldDreams73 ! x

comedycentral · 25/01/2025 10:32

I hope it goes well today OP and isn't too draining.

BoiledOrRoastPotatoes · 25/01/2025 11:03

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 25/01/2025 09:55

I thought that was going to be an update saying she'd cancelled.

Why am I so invested?!

Ditto. My heart sank when I saw the email saying OP had updated. So glad it wasn’t that!

Hope all goes well today and your friend is suitably apologetic.

ElsieMc · 25/01/2025 11:11

Wish you closure today op. But sorry, there does appear no way back from this to protect your own wellbeing. You sound like a friend someone would be lucky to have.

teenangst5 · 25/01/2025 11:43

Loads of luck OP, I hope you get some answers and some closure.

Reg22 · 25/01/2025 14:18

Hope it goes well today for you, I have also been in a similar situation and it hurts

EmeraldDreams73 · 25/01/2025 17:41

Right! I'm finally back home. Get the kettle on! 🤣

I got there first, found a table in an almost empty part of the usual (v large) cafe and then basically stayed all day. P got there about 15 mins after me. At first we chatted "normally" for quite a while, I kept trying to get a word in to ask wtf was going on, but eventually she brought it up.

So. Tiny (imho) things, basically:

  1. They didn't like where they were sat at the wedding (I had sent her a plan and checked she was ok with it beforehand. She had said absolutely no problem, they didn't mind where they were.) But on the day, they felt "pushed out". Frankly, this is insane. There was a pillar between the main reception area and the area their table was in. Originally supposed to be two other tables the other side of the pillars, but numbers eventually meant there was just one, but it was actually closer to the top table (and with a better view of it) than many others the other side of the pillar.

  2. I didn't make enough of a big deal after her Nan's funeral - this was the catalyst in mid Feb for cutting contact. For context, her Nan was 102 when she passed and it had been expected for a long time. It was also a few weeks after my friend died of cancer in her 50s. I DID message her and did send her (and her parents) lovely cards. In fact, at the time she thanked me, I remember her saying what lovely words I'd written in her parents' card, it had made her dad cry.

  3. Apparently some years I've forgotten her dd's bday (it's early Jan) and either sent no present, or a joint one with Christmas. It's possible I may have missed the odd present over the years, I can't honestly remember now, but on the rare occasions I've done a joint one, I've always spent the same as I would if her bday was different time of year, ie in order to give a bigger present that I thought she'd like rather than two smaller ones.

  4. Lateness of her 50th present wasn't as big a deal, but was I think another small thing that made her feel that my "actions didn't match my words" and led her to feel that she wanted a break from me. But that she hadn't intended it to be so long.

I was pretty astonished tbh. I said that I was extremely sorry she had felt like that, and that it certainly wasn't my intention. I also said that at no point did she give any hint at all of any of these - she did say several times that she clearly needs to be much more direct and honest in her communication rather than letting little things pile up, stewing on them, then blowing up. (Which is what she does with her family, for context.) No shit.

I went on to say very clearly how much it had affected me, and that it had impacted every friendship I have - I'm now constantly worrying about saying/doing/not saying/doing the wrong thing and risking being punished out of nowhere without a clue what I've done. She apologised for that, and said that she hadn't thought about it having that kind of effect.

Once we'd both said our bits we carried on chatting and it was fine, just like normal, (although tbh I don't trust her any more at all not to be thinking something totally different if she can take offence at such things). Before we said goodbye she also said thanks for not giving up on me.

Now I'm home I just feel pissed off.

So there we are. I really appreciate so many posts wishing me luck, it helped a lot this morning.

I'm glad today's over but also hugely unimpressed tbh. I would NEVER behave like that to anyone. I also told her that if any other friend had done that, I would not be coming back from it.

She talked a lot about wanting to get together soon and moving forward communicating differently etc. I'm happy to see how it goes but certainly will be very wary. Makes you realise how little you really know someone, I guess.

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