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To worry about oldest friend - barely any contact from her for 9 months

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EmeraldDreams73 · 08/09/2024 16:03

This is likely to be long, I'm sorry.

My oldest friend, P, lives about 1.5 hours from me, we've been very close for 45 years. Pre-technology we had the odd year or two where we just caught up by letter, but have been in very regular contact (usually WhatsApp) for probably the last 20 years. Our kids are similar ages. It's been rare for us to go more than a few days without contact, or a couple of weeks absolute max, though it ebbs and flows as we're both busy. We've been a huge support to each other for many years.

I got married 9 months ago (no, I didn't bombard her with tons of wedding shit beforehand! We had the odd chat about plans, she was definitely excited for it). She did a beautiful reading which was fab and I mentioned her in my speech, she and her family had a great time from what I could tell. No falling out or cross words at all. We were in touch briefly over Christmas as usual, but didn't manage to meet up (but had seen each other at the wedding just before, so I wasn't concerned).

I know she's always under a lot of pressure with work (p/t but very demanding), and I do remember her saying in January that she'd probably be a bit quieter than usual for a few weeks, as there was a lot going on with elderly parents and in laws as well. Obviously I said no problem, I don't want to add to her worries/stress with my own expectations, and said I'm here any time, don't worry at all.

But here we are in Sept and I've heard almost nothing from her since January and I'm worried. I suddenly know nothing at all about what's happening in her life when for 45 years we've had a pretty good idea of what's going on for each other. She has sent kind messages/ cards for my birthday and to my dds, all of which seem perfectly normal, but has given zero updates on her own life and asked for zero support, whereas she normally relies on me for emotional support, as I do her.

It just feels like something major must be going on and I miss her and I suppose I'm upset at the thought that she would normally want to talk to me but for some reason doesn't atm. I've tried really hard not to be upset but the longer it goes on, can't help it. It feels like grief.

I have messaged her a few times, never asking for anything from her, just giving brief bits of news as normal at first, and reiterating now and then that I was thinking of her and hoped she was OK. I've left it weeks on end between messages and tried to keep anything I do send as very short and low key, just checking in and never asking for a reply etc. I have said that I'm worried about her and that I'm here if she needs me, she responded with a heart emoji but still no contact. I'm almost sure she's not upset with me, there's been nothing I can think of at all but it often keeps me awake at night wondering.

Of course I realises she has no obligation to keep me in the loop, but after 45 years of being so close, and after multiple school hols where I hoped she'd get in touch (she works in education, as does her DP), I'm getting increasingly worried. I am also feeling hurt if I'm honest, not that I'd tell her - I don't want to make whatever she's going through about me. I do know that she's been struggling with menopause and she's had mh difficulties in the past, as has her DP and several members of her extended family.

I had an issue with another friend a few months ago (v different character and not a mutual friend, she was spectacularly bitchy to me and I was extremely upset but we sorted it out). While that was going on I did send P a more emotional message late one night - I felt like I was losing all my oldest friends, though didn't say that. Just said I really hoped she was OK, and if I'd done anything to upset her to please let me know, told her how much she means to me etc. She didn't answer that, which I took to mean that it's nothing I've done, and have made sure since to just send occasional, low key messages.

We have one mutual friend who is very blunt (and pretty rude at times, v different to both me and P) and when P has gone quiet in the past we would normally ask each other if she was OK. When I did this around March, she didn't reply and has ignored a couple of other enquiries - very out of character but we are in touch as normal, so I've assumed she either isn't worried, or has heard from P and she just doesn't want to be in close touch with me for now/at all. Which is fuelling the worry!

Has anyone else had this happen? I miss P so much. It feels like I'm being kept firmly at arm's length - she sends cards and the odd message (eg good luck to dd2 when she started college last week), it feels bizarre to have that contact without the other side of our friendship, ie any knowledge at all of what's going on for her. I want to help, to listen, to know if she's OK.

AIBU to be worried? I wouldn't dream of contacting her parents or anything, but it's so upsetting. Should I stop even my attempts at keeping things low key in case they're construed as pressure? Or keep going in the hope that whatever is going on, she eventually feels she wants to reconnect?

Sorry this is so long.

OP posts:
Lostcat · 04/01/2025 22:18

EmeraldDreams73 · 04/01/2025 20:58

I'll just say, sorry, can't do 29th, how about Saturday 11th - X time/X village cafe? If not, let me know.

She also put lots of very warm and normal sounding enquiries in her last message about my parents/dds/specific things that she knows will be going on this week. I think it's best not to answer those, just keep it super short and to the point.

I don't think she would cancel once booked, but who knows? I didn't think she'd ever do this, so I'm no judge!

If she books, then cancels or doesn't turn up, I won't arrange another date. If she says she can't do next Saturday, I will offer one more date, then give up. This is clear in my mind now and I will stick to it.

I want to be sure that I've done my bit in trying to book a date now that she's finally offering to talk, but I'm 100% prepared for it not to happen.

Hi OP , now she has finally responded to your imploring, I actually don’t think passive aggressive is the way to go at this point. It’s not entirely reasonable to beg her to talk to you for so long then sulk when she finally does. I’d just be completely friendly/ polite/ normal. Be reasonable about the timing. Set up this meeting , then see what she has to say/ have a really frank chat where you explain how this has impacted you etc in person xx

Gloriia · 05/01/2025 09:14

Lostcat · 04/01/2025 22:18

Hi OP , now she has finally responded to your imploring, I actually don’t think passive aggressive is the way to go at this point. It’s not entirely reasonable to beg her to talk to you for so long then sulk when she finally does. I’d just be completely friendly/ polite/ normal. Be reasonable about the timing. Set up this meeting , then see what she has to say/ have a really frank chat where you explain how this has impacted you etc in person xx

The op hasn't implored or begged. These are longstanding friends who have been in contact every few days for years. The friend has inexplicably cooled and backed off, i think the op has been very polite and patient in trying to keep in touch in case the pal was ill in some way. However another friend has assured her this isn't the case, she weirdly seems to know what the issue is but no one's telling the op Confused.

The 'friend' has finally agreed to grace her with her presence but is now delaying committing to a date. As if she is enjoying keeping her hanging. At this point I'd think fuck it and leave her to it.

GRex · 05/01/2025 09:40

I hope you can get the answers you need to move on. It's worth being prepared that she'll just say she's found the level of contact a bit overwhelming. I can appreciate you don't feel it was much, but it still might have been too much for her. You may need to decide if you're happy to be an acquaintance sending cards but fewer texts and meeting very infrequently, or not; it's worth considering in advance.

Lostcat · 05/01/2025 10:00

Gloriia · 05/01/2025 09:14

The op hasn't implored or begged. These are longstanding friends who have been in contact every few days for years. The friend has inexplicably cooled and backed off, i think the op has been very polite and patient in trying to keep in touch in case the pal was ill in some way. However another friend has assured her this isn't the case, she weirdly seems to know what the issue is but no one's telling the op Confused.

The 'friend' has finally agreed to grace her with her presence but is now delaying committing to a date. As if she is enjoying keeping her hanging. At this point I'd think fuck it and leave her to it.

I don’t think OP did anything wrong. I just meant that she’s been reaching out for months, telling her friend she’s hear, looking to reconnect/ a response, reassuring her she can confide in her. But now friend is finally ready to talk - I don’t think passive aggressive via text is the way to go. It’s mixed signals and will only create more misunderstanding at this point. Of course I understand why OP is so hurt and her friend has been selfish, but OP has decided to meet and hear friend out , so better to get there with blameless behaviour on her side- finally see what’s up- and them explain to her friend how this has affected her and how upset she is - reasonably , clearly and in person.

AvonCallingBarksdale · 05/01/2025 10:17

OP hasn’t implored or begged. She’s tried to contact a very longstanding friend who’s inexplicably gone radio silent. This isn’t someone she met down the pub who, after an initial fun night, has decided they’ve not got much in common. OP has been v patient and measured.

Gloriia · 08/01/2025 17:03

EmeraldDreams73 · 04/01/2025 20:58

I'll just say, sorry, can't do 29th, how about Saturday 11th - X time/X village cafe? If not, let me know.

She also put lots of very warm and normal sounding enquiries in her last message about my parents/dds/specific things that she knows will be going on this week. I think it's best not to answer those, just keep it super short and to the point.

I don't think she would cancel once booked, but who knows? I didn't think she'd ever do this, so I'm no judge!

If she books, then cancels or doesn't turn up, I won't arrange another date. If she says she can't do next Saturday, I will offer one more date, then give up. This is clear in my mind now and I will stick to it.

I want to be sure that I've done my bit in trying to book a date now that she's finally offering to talk, but I'm 100% prepared for it not to happen.

Has she got back to you?

<over invested sorry Grin>

EmeraldDreams73 · 08/01/2025 17:19

Gloriia · 08/01/2025 17:03

Has she got back to you?

<over invested sorry Grin>

She has, we agreed a date a while ago (Sat 25th Jan) although not actually settled on a time and place yet! I suggested both a few days ago and she hasn't replied to that. I'm not too worried though, she seemed quite keen to get the date booked in. It'll either happen or it won't, I'm fine either way at this point! I will update after 25th though, whatever happens :)

OP posts:
Gloriia · 08/01/2025 17:31

Oh well fingers crossed, hope it goes ok. Sounds promising!

Eddielizzard · 09/01/2025 07:55

I hope you get some closure somehow. She's being very weird and I hope you get to make sense of it all.

H0TDAY · 22/01/2025 11:38

Are you still on for the 25th OP? Did she actually make a time and date with you?

TheGhostOfTheYearYetToCome · 22/01/2025 11:55

Mainly bookmarking . I hope you get answers

Starryknightcloud · 22/01/2025 13:04

I'm glad you have a date and hope you get some answers x

EmeraldDreams73 · 22/01/2025 15:46

H0TDAY · 22/01/2025 11:38

Are you still on for the 25th OP? Did she actually make a time and date with you?

Thanks all! Yes, still on for Saturday, we have arranged to meet up so I will let you all know...

Feeling quite nervous about it tbh. Assuming she turns up, I intend to do FAR more listening than talking obvs, but still v worried. Partly about getting a character assassination and regretting it/making it worse by snapping back, but then again there's not much to make worse really! I do still want to know, though, so we shall see.

OP posts:
Secondguess · 22/01/2025 16:21

You'll probably know within a few minutes whether you still have the same fondness for each other.

I hope it goes well, and if not, at least that things are resolved.

piscofrisco · 22/01/2025 20:26

Good luck OP! I hope you get what you want from the meeting and come away feeling happier with the situation.

EmeraldRoulette · 22/01/2025 20:33

Good luck with it

i was thinking of this thread because late last night, I got to thinking about a couple of ghosters - the type who send Xmas greetings still. I'm not an angry person but I still feel angry. I suppose in a couple of years I won't give a shit. Let's hope so.

I hope it works out well for you.

Incakewetrust · 22/01/2025 21:07

I've just RTFT! Good luck for Saturday.
I'm glad you've moved past the grief and are in the acceptance phase as it'll make whatever she says on Saturday so much easier to hear.
Keep your chin up and don't let her under your skin.

buttonousmaximous · 22/01/2025 21:44

Yes try not to say too much let her explain. And don't feel like you have to defend yourself. Good luck

HAPPILYMARRIEDSINCE2012 · 23/01/2025 10:36

Hope all goes well on Saturday OP and at least you find out what's going on finally

0123thehollyandtheivy0123 · 23/01/2025 11:31

Hope Saturday goes well. You'll know within a few minutes whether this is a Closure meeting or if you'll see her again.

OVienna · 23/01/2025 11:59

EmeraldDreams73 · 22/01/2025 15:46

Thanks all! Yes, still on for Saturday, we have arranged to meet up so I will let you all know...

Feeling quite nervous about it tbh. Assuming she turns up, I intend to do FAR more listening than talking obvs, but still v worried. Partly about getting a character assassination and regretting it/making it worse by snapping back, but then again there's not much to make worse really! I do still want to know, though, so we shall see.

I suspect it will all be very bland hen you finally get in front of her. Then status quo will return. But let's see.

PeppyGreenFinch · 23/01/2025 13:18

I would have some answers ready. If she mentions the late birthday present don’t just say sorry, tell her the birthday card was on time, the present for unavoidably late.

Don’t let her control the narrative.

Gloriia · 23/01/2025 14:47

OVienna · 23/01/2025 11:59

I suspect it will all be very bland hen you finally get in front of her. Then status quo will return. But let's see.

Yes I bet the friend will act like nothing has happened. Whatever got her goat probably will never be revealed as the friend clearly prefers beating about the bush and giving mixed signals.

They'll probably have a nice, superficial chat and the op will come away none the wiser.

I hope whatever happens you can move on op, you don't need these kind of friends who make us second guess everything Flowers

Bollihobs · 23/01/2025 15:23

EmeraldDreams73 · 22/01/2025 15:46

Thanks all! Yes, still on for Saturday, we have arranged to meet up so I will let you all know...

Feeling quite nervous about it tbh. Assuming she turns up, I intend to do FAR more listening than talking obvs, but still v worried. Partly about getting a character assassination and regretting it/making it worse by snapping back, but then again there's not much to make worse really! I do still want to know, though, so we shall see.

Well I hope wherever you are meeting her has got room for all of us as well because we will all be there with you - you won't be sitting there on your own at all!

Do practice NOT responding to her until you are absolutely composed - have an elastic band on your wrist if you need something to 'do' instead of speaking - as you've said, let her do all the talking, don't be afraid of silences (one of my terrible habits, having to fill silences!) - have a few phrases like "Yes I'm listening" "Mmhmm go on/carry on" or even just repeat the last bit of what she's just said and then "Hmmm, go on" And do have a rough idea of how you'd like to represent to her what it meant and how it felt to you - this may not necessarily be the complete truth of your feelings, just what you want to share with her.

Good luck but I think you have come SO far on this thread in terms of your self esteem and confidence I think you'll be OK.

EmeraldDreams73 · 23/01/2025 17:31

Thanks so much! Love the idea of you all there with me. I'd be amazed if she just chatted as normal without mentioning anything, but if she does I'll definitely be asking.

Wouldn't it be funny if someone who'd seen this thread was actually in the cafe and overheard the conversation - obvs that won't happen, but it would be fab 🤣

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