Early prison release for DV perpetrators *trigger warning DV*

[Usercyzabc]

I’m sure this has been discussed at length but what am I missing with not understanding Starmers thinking in releasing violence men under his SDS40 scheme?

Not sure what my AIBU is, but happy for suggestions.

I won’t link, but I read in the Daily Fail today, that next week this is to go ahead.

I don’t understand.

@MissUnlocked the same people that pay to keep someone in prison. The taxpayer. But it's a much cheaper option.

You made a terrible terrible assumption, so yes best to stop doing so.

Im guessing you don’t work with victims of DV, so in prison system? What is the thinking behind releasing men who are violent towards women, because as you pointed out I’m not getting it hence the thread.

Well you have that wrong. For me it's that my daughter was attacked by her ex . My daughter had to move from her home . Go into refuges /temporary accommodation. Social services heavily involved . Me and my own children also had to be moved under life in danger . My secondary school children had to have leaflet in their bag that had a photo of my dd ex on it . That said. Please can you help me this man has Been realised from prison after he hurt my sister . And he is a risk to me. Please could you call the police .(not exact wording ) Safe guarding at my children's school also has a picture and simlatr note on her ex most recent realise he had found out whete sge lives so she's having to move again.

Hi @Usercyzabc. I’d like to respond to you directly as I’m the poster you mention. I think you’ve misrepresented what I’ve been saying. Maybe I haven’t been clear in what I’ve said and I apologise if that’s the case. I can clarify all of the points I’ve mentioned here if you’d like me to. Let me know.

I do think that you and the 3 other posters I’ve mentioned have all been unnecessarily critical of Starmer and Labour in your posts so far, and I stand by that.

The only thing that Starmer or Labour have ‘done wrong’, if I can frame it like that, is to have this early release scheme in the first place. This scheme is an emergency measure. They have done it because they have found their hand has been forced by the inaction and neglect of the previous government who were in power for 14 years.

And Labour are now doing everything they can - as it says in the Richmond and Twickenham Times link in one of my posts on this thread - to avoid domestic abusers being included in the groups of prisoners being released early under this scheme, yet that is hard to achieve because acts of domestic abuse is not always recorded as such.

OK where are the actual facts from official sources nor ramblings

And women can actually open their eyes and not be so desperate thry will pick any, it won't stop unless people chose it too

And stop moving on from one man having children with them then the next have more children then let the cycle continue of breeding the next victims and perpetrators

Maybe they need to stick this on posters or add it the endless things schools have to teach because parents aren't doing it

Locking up men and keeping them in prison doesn't stop it for the next lot, it needs to be worked on by parents and society before it happens

I’m so sorry.

@GoldOnyx now do you understand this has nothing to do with that fact it’s starmer per se, this is about real like safety concerns.

Yes sorry tagged the wrong poster. I your point and I hope none of them are released early because the lifelong impact of DV is immense. I was shocked to read this is happening

Sir Keir insisted there were “safeguards in place” in relation to high-risk prisoners, including those convicted of domestic violence-related offences.

Some prisoners released at 40% mark.... then probation take over for the rest of the sentence.

Prison life is now unsustainable... it's dangerous for staff. Men doubled up in cell, behind doors 23 hours a day. It's not safe

What? ‘And women can actually open their eyes and not be so desperate thry will pick any’ can you explain this

I apologise. I am so sorry. I didn’t mean to tag you too. I meant to tag BooToYouHalloween. I’m so sorry about your daughter.

No problem, but I still don’t understand what you mean. Why are you shocked this is happening? The government are trying to do everything they can to not release domestic abusers under the scheme. This has now been mentioned several times on this thread with links to verified sources. What is it that you are shocked to read?

As others have said, the early release scheme's nothing new.
Perpetrators of DA were being released early since before the beginning of 2024.
I know this because I was working with a number of survivors who were desperately trying to move house/get safety measures in place to improve the safety of their home when learning that their perps were being released early.
A lot of work was being done to try & prevent their early release.
It really isn't KS who's influencing things there.
The prison system's not fit for purpose.
There needs to be a load more training for professionals around DA, seeing the signs, coercive control, supporting survivors.
The domestic abuse act 2021 was signed into law over 3 years ago & there's still so much that needs to improve.
In my work, I see all the time the lack of priority & understanding for survivors around housing, the lack of arrests when civil orders are breached, & the general lack of understanding when there are clearly women, children & survivors at risks of harm,
So much can be prevented, & just hasn't been.
I think the new government are going to shine a light on many of these issues & make some significant changes around preventing VAWG.

That at least 3 men, who took pleasure in hurting their partners are to be released. So I’m not seeing how that it trying not to release violent men.

@Usercyzabc what was the original sentence for these 3 men?

Where are you reading that?

Worst offenders than violent men? Like pensioners who posted offensive things on Facebook?

Excerpt : Among the 1,700 set to walk free next Tuesday are a man who told his partner he was 'enjoying' attacking her and another who strangled his partner and broke her jaw, The Times reports.
Under Sir Keir's Starmer's new scheme, Connor Shaw will only serve 13 months of his prison sentence after subjecting his partner to years of mental and physical abuse.
He was originally sentenced 32 months behind bars after breaking her jaw, strangling her, and threatening to throw acid in her face.

And women can actually open their eyes and not be so desperate thry will pick any, it won't stop unless people chose it too
And stop moving on from one man having children with them then the next have more children then let the cycle continue of breeding the next victims and perpetrators

Some village idiot's been knocking back the Victim Blaming Lambrini tonight.

that poster seems to be saying male violence is women’s fault. We shouldn’t go out with them.

its whataboutery to distract from the fact that they don’t want to criticise Keir starmer. So female victims of domestic violence are an easy target

It’s truly awful. Not taking domestic abuse seriously at all. Disgraceful

The times - I can’t access the link now as it’s behind a payway and I don’t subscribe but the daily fail is also reporting and I won’t link to that publication

Why is she shocked at horrendously violent men are being let out of prison early? Why is she shocked that the government isn’t taking domestic violence seriously?

well that’s shocking isn’t it. It is to most women who care about such things

Who else is reporting prisoners names?

Daily Mail and...?

I agree with you. Theses violent men also often move onto another relationship where they then become violent to that partner.

The times, that’s who the DM is pulling the info from