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Valentina Petrillo shouldn't be allowed to compete in the women's race

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AhBiscuits · 07/09/2024 15:19

Valentina Petrillo only started transitioning 5 years ago and previously competed as a man. How can that be fair? I appreciate that she did not make the final, but she's taken the place of a woman who has worked her arse off, but couldn't surpass Valentina's natural advantage.

Valentina Petrillo shouldn't be allowed to compete in the women's race
Valentina Petrillo shouldn't be allowed to compete in the women's race
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WickedSerious · 07/09/2024 16:17

GrumpyPanda · 07/09/2024 15:52

And to top it all off, Petrillo had the sheer nerve to whine to Italian TV about having been provided with private toilet access rather than having the free run of the women's toilet and changing facilities. Ffs. It's not like Petrillo was being stuck in with the men..

After he bleached his hair too,poor bloke.

Helleofabore · 07/09/2024 16:31

lifeturnsonadime · 07/09/2024 15:49

If the science wasn’t clear there wouldn’t be a separate female category in the first place.

There is no valid argument for destroying the female category.

Trans people are not prevented from sporting participation by retaining sex based categories but females are by the fact that the ioc & other sporting bodies put the feelings of males first.

Don’t forget though, apparently there are new discoveries that have turned the world on its head. Apparently, a group of male people should be made happy and female people should shut the fuck up.

Caffeinequeen91 · 07/09/2024 16:35

It’s disgusting that a past it born male athlete cheats and takes the place of a female athlete. He has no shame.

ErrolTheDragon · 07/09/2024 16:36

Helleofabore · 07/09/2024 15:48

Feelings errol. Feelings.

Ah, well I'm very happy to think about feelings - those of female athletes, who are the only people whose feelings are relevant in the context of female sports.

Naunet · 07/09/2024 16:36

He’s an entitled pig, the fact he’s allowed to do this is dystopian.

BrightGreenLeaves · 07/09/2024 16:41

What I don’t understand is why he’s not embarrassed. I find that aspect baffling.

lifeturnsonadime · 07/09/2024 17:08

Helleofabore · 07/09/2024 16:31

Don’t forget though, apparently there are new discoveries that have turned the world on its head. Apparently, a group of male people should be made happy and female people should shut the fuck up.

Oh I know. I’m still in shock at reading about the poor breast feeding councillor in Australia who’s being forced to attend a tribunal to be publicly shamed for daring to be of the option that it’s wrong for a male to nurse an infant with chemically induced secretions. It’s so dystopian that it’s hard to believe it’s real.

The feelings of the male engaging in what she quite legitimately believes to be a fetish must come first 😡and she’s been hauled over the coals for HER wrong behaviour in pointing this out.

The attack on women to appease these males is appalling.

MintyNew · 07/09/2024 17:09

Yanbu, that was a scary sight too! How on earth is it ok for this very obvious man to take the place of a born female.

Naunet · 07/09/2024 17:11

It’s like the last days of Rome. Men getting whatever they demand is never a good thing for anyone, long term.

stripybobblehat · 07/09/2024 17:14

itsgettingweird · 07/09/2024 15:37

It's not fair that para athletics allow this when AB athletics doesn't.

There should not be a difference.

Para sports classes are to allow for impairments and the effect on performance to create a level playing field.

Being transgender is not a disability.

The athlete has a visual impairment I believe. They aren't claiming that being transgender is a disability.

Helleofabore · 07/09/2024 17:19

lifeturnsonadime · 07/09/2024 17:08

Oh I know. I’m still in shock at reading about the poor breast feeding councillor in Australia who’s being forced to attend a tribunal to be publicly shamed for daring to be of the option that it’s wrong for a male to nurse an infant with chemically induced secretions. It’s so dystopian that it’s hard to believe it’s real.

The feelings of the male engaging in what she quite legitimately believes to be a fetish must come first 😡and she’s been hauled over the coals for HER wrong behaviour in pointing this out.

The attack on women to appease these males is appalling.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5159824-5159824-wth-australia

This one? Yes I remember Buckley complaining that women, experts in breastfeeding, were saying that no male should be feeding the artificially induced secretions of unknown composition and drug interactions to any infant. Considering how many of us mothers where told we couldn’t have so many things while breastfeeding, how the fuck can any medical doctor encourage a male person to do this as supposedly Buckley’s endocrinologist did? There is no research done, therefore medical specialists who have encouraged this are experimenting on infants.

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For context, nearly all the states and territories in Australia have Self ID. Since women won't 'behave' they're doubling down on persecuting women....

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5159824-5159824-wth-australia

unsync · 07/09/2024 17:19

We have already seen the IOC stance on this and it is to allow males in female competition.

viques · 07/09/2024 17:22

VickyEadieofThigh · 07/09/2024 15:32

The length of "transition" is irrelevant. This is a 51 year old male competing against elite female para athletes much younger (simply because no female para athlete of that age COULD compete).

This is a male who has shoved out female athletes. It's WRONG.

Not only wrong it is a blatant attempt at cheating and I really don’t understand why the Paralympic Sports Bodies - who go out of their way to make sure that as far as possible Paralympic athletes are pitted like against like - refuse to recognise this.

This is a man who clearly has huge psychological issues about losing, couldn’t win any more against men, so cough transitioned and now (hooray) seems as though he can’t win against women either. He will have to turn his cheating ways to racing against little kids next.

lifeturnsonadime · 07/09/2024 17:24

Yes that’s the one. Thanks for the link. I’d seen it on twitter & literally cannot believe this is where we are at.

The fact that the infant seems to be ignored in all of this is also shocking 😮.

viques · 07/09/2024 17:25

WickedSerious · 07/09/2024 16:17

After he bleached his hair too,poor bloke.

And bought new lippy and earrings!

LocalHobo · 07/09/2024 17:25

those hormones seem to make little impact on male entitlement. 😂but then

Apparently, a group of male people should be made happy and female people should shut the fuck up. actually nothing to laugh about.

TheABC · 07/09/2024 17:27

Can the IOC be sued on the grounds of sex discrimination? Ditto the appropriate sporting bodies?

viques · 07/09/2024 17:30

How the fuck can someone be a “trans mother” when he is the biological father of the baby?

That poor child.

viques · 07/09/2024 17:33

TheABC · 07/09/2024 17:27

Can the IOC be sued on the grounds of sex discrimination? Ditto the appropriate sporting bodies?

It’s not the IOC , it’s individual countries sports bodies who decide in the Paralympics, and as far as the Italian sports bodies are concerned if you say you are a woman you are a woman.

Even if your shorts call you out as a liar.

Hoppinggreen · 07/09/2024 17:50

What baffles me most is presumably in cases where the disability isnt very obvious paralympians must need to somehow "prove" thast they are hearing/sight impaired or similar.
So this person has had to prove they are sight impaired but not that they are a woman?
Someone would have to be completely blind not to see what sex he is

Ofalltheginjoints · 07/09/2024 18:07

Absolutely no question, no they shouldn't be allowed to compete.

I've posted before about my experience of a trans woman in an indoor rowing European championship event, this was a non para event (i had a para classification) and had a transwoman in her 60's racing against women at least half her age, some of these women were in the armed forces so extremely fit. I thought it was great that the trans woman could compete in the race.

The transwoman was bigger and physically stronger and despite the massive age difference won by a clear majority, the three fastest women were all within a couple of seconds of each other. That one race showed to me that biology does matter and that trans athletes (of which you never hear of trans men encountering this problem) shouldn't be allowed to compete.

i had a para classification and then ultimately the classification system changed and I no longer met the requirements to be classified so I can't compete any more, this was heartbreaking and infuriating but I understand it, my heartbreaks more for the Italian VI athlete who may now never get to compete in a Paralympic's due to this.

Errors · 07/09/2024 18:09

Fuck the IOC

itsgettingweird · 07/09/2024 18:12

I realise that stripy. My comment with in regards to in AB athletics you can't run as a woman if you are a transwoman.

So how come in para athletics you can?

My point being it isn't a disability so why the difference in Ab and para?

Believe me I understand para sport extremely well - my ds is a para swimmer!

ElderMrs · 07/09/2024 18:12

I completely agree. A biological male with a penis should not be in a woman's race.

SinnerBoy · 07/09/2024 18:13

Nor, it should be said, even if he's lost his penis.