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Mormon wives

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Stepawayfromthefridgenow · 06/09/2024 22:07

Watching this show ‘The secret lives of Mormon wives’ I had no idea their lives were like that or allowed to be.
Anyone Mormon here or know any Mormons?

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Missingpotatocroquettes · 07/09/2024 06:36

I know some Mormons. The ones I know are nice people but it's most definitely a cult in my eyes.

The history of the church is very interesting though. The founder of the church, Joseph Smith, was a known and convicted scam artist, who married a 14 year old girl, amongst his other ~40 wives.

They also believe in "continuous revelation", this means that members of the church are still recieving messages from god. This gives them a convenient out whenever they're getting too much bad publicity because the new messages can overrule the old ones. Like when they were going to be kicked out of Utah for practicing polygamy and the leader suddenly receives a message from god saying "no, actually polygamy is wrong and forbidden." Or, in more recent history, when God decided that actually black people can join the church.

This is all on a hierarchy too so the head of the Mormon church, who is always about 90, receives messages for the whole church. Leaders of churches receive messages for their individual church. Men can receive messages for their own family and, obviously, women are at the bottom and can only receive messages for themselves or their children.

Dodo23 · 07/09/2024 06:43

ncforcatquestion · 07/09/2024 00:00

But you could argue that we don't really have a choice the other way around. To be a mother means nothing in this society

I often think this is so true, not many women genuinely have a choice. Lots of women in certain parts of the world would love to have a career, but are forced to stay at home due to cultural expectations. Whilst many women would love to stay at home and raise their children, but are forced to work due to the fact that few families can live on one income. There's no right or wrong way, but not many women genuinely have a choice in this.

KateMiskin · 07/09/2024 06:43

I dont really get what is stopping anyone from staying at home, having a passel of kids, making jam all day and dressing conservatively if you so wish without being Mormon. Lots of cultures and religions encourage this.
Personally my worst nightmare.

ncforcatquestion · 07/09/2024 06:45

KateMiskin · 07/09/2024 06:43

I dont really get what is stopping anyone from staying at home, having a passel of kids, making jam all day and dressing conservatively if you so wish without being Mormon. Lots of cultures and religions encourage this.
Personally my worst nightmare.

It is possible but the culture we've grown up in there aren't a lot of men willing to support this

KateMiskin · 07/09/2024 06:47

ncforcatquestion · 07/09/2024 06:45

It is possible but the culture we've grown up in there aren't a lot of men willing to support this

Most women trapped in these kinds of cultures- I am from one such- have no choice.

RoseMarigoldViolet · 07/09/2024 06:50

Where can you watch this programme in the UK?
Sorry if I have missed this in the posts.

TheChosenTwo · 07/09/2024 06:56

I worked with a mormon lady for years. Had no idea she was Mormon until I drew her name in secret Santa and bought her a bottle of gin - someone else pointed out that she couldn’t drink it because she was Mormon! Had no idea because she didn’t bring that side of her to work I guess, other than saying she’d been to church over the weekend - but there are lots of different types of church!
Nothing remotely different about her.

bazoom · 07/09/2024 07:02

FuckThePoPo · 06/09/2024 23:18

Well I'm sure they are great apart from no tea coffee or alcohol, no abortions, no gays. No thanks 😂

I'd struggle without the tea

Latenightreader · 07/09/2024 07:02

ComtesseDeSpair · 07/09/2024 00:53

I think it’s only a small sub-group who believe in doing this though, as mainstream LDS followers are essentially anabaptists who think baptism must be a conscious choice. Though to be fair, it doesn’t strike me as any more weird to baptise the dead than to baptise babies, who are equally unaware.

When we visited Salt Lake City to see (non-Mormon) friends some years ago we went on a tour of the Temple Museum (you can't see the actual Temple). Our tour guide showed us the giant font (full imersion but raised up) where people were baptised, and explained about being baptised for your ancestors so they could go to heaven. She had been done 34 times. I'm pretty sure she said it was voluntary in that the deceased person had to accept the baptism before admittance, but my memory isn't as clear on that.

AgnesX · 07/09/2024 07:29

ncforcatquestion · 06/09/2024 23:54

I think it looks like a good life. I would have liked to be able to stay home with lots of kids, cooking, dressmaking and making jam

The novelty of that would wear off very quickly. Unless someone's spouse earns a lot it would be a lot less ideal than it sounds.

DreadingWinter · 07/09/2024 07:52

ncforcatquestion · 06/09/2024 23:54

I think it looks like a good life. I would have liked to be able to stay home with lots of kids, cooking, dressmaking and making jam

Why would you think that the Mormon women do this? My cousin worked as an estate agent (realtor) for 30 years. Married, had a child, divorced, remarried and had two more DC. My friend, also on her second marriage is an engineer. My other cousin's children all have university degrees and work. The church is a central part of their lives though. Their social lives are entirely dependent on other church members, but their working lives are in the real world so they try to blend in.

ncforcatquestion · 07/09/2024 07:58

DreadingWinter · 07/09/2024 07:52

Why would you think that the Mormon women do this? My cousin worked as an estate agent (realtor) for 30 years. Married, had a child, divorced, remarried and had two more DC. My friend, also on her second marriage is an engineer. My other cousin's children all have university degrees and work. The church is a central part of their lives though. Their social lives are entirely dependent on other church members, but their working lives are in the real world so they try to blend in.

I see. It must be all the tv shows I watched. I thought they were very traditional in gender roles

Ophy83 · 07/09/2024 07:59

DreadingWinter · 07/09/2024 07:52

Why would you think that the Mormon women do this? My cousin worked as an estate agent (realtor) for 30 years. Married, had a child, divorced, remarried and had two more DC. My friend, also on her second marriage is an engineer. My other cousin's children all have university degrees and work. The church is a central part of their lives though. Their social lives are entirely dependent on other church members, but their working lives are in the real world so they try to blend in.

I've been wondering if some posters are confusing Mormon and Amish

sandgrown · 07/09/2024 08:02

In the 60s I was friends with a Morman family who attended our local church of LDS. We were invited to go to Primary (a sort of Morman Sunday school ) we went along but the main draw was the basketball court in the building. I can’t remember much about the religion but there was a scandal when the mum ran off with the Asian guy who drove the local bus .

HotCrossBunplease · 07/09/2024 08:05

Ofthemall · 06/09/2024 23:25

I’d love to be a mormon (can you just become one or do you have to be born into it / marry into it?!) but I love coffee too much so I don’t think they’d want me 😂

Their entire purpose is to convert people!
They send their young people on compulsory missions around the world to gain converts. They would bite your hand off!

MountUnpleasant · 07/09/2024 08:09

ncforcatquestion · 06/09/2024 23:54

I think it looks like a good life. I would have liked to be able to stay home with lots of kids, cooking, dressmaking and making jam

You don't have to be Mormon to do that. 😅 In fact keeping the extra 10% of your income would probably help to make it possible!

Sparkletastic · 07/09/2024 08:13

I recommend you balance your viewing with 'Under the Banner of Heaven' on ITVX

ShortColdandGrey · 07/09/2024 08:19

I was brought up as Mormon. Wouldn't recommend it. As soon as I turned 12, I was told my job was to find a returned missionary and get married as soon as legally possible. The womans job is to obey her husband and pump out as many babies as possible. A religion(cult) that was started by a con artist. They don't tell you that the golden plates he apparently translated he wasn't actually looking at. He had his head in his hat and just shouted out what was on the imaginary gold plates 😆 Then god told him he needed to have about 16 wives, especially the 13/14 year old girls of his followers. Oh, and anybody else's wife that he fancied. I feel sorry for the ones growing up in Utah where you live and breathe it, especially if lgbt.

Haggia · 07/09/2024 08:35

No coffee???

Whats the point of having a sister-wife if she can’t make you a coffee?

RampantIvy · 07/09/2024 08:35

I shared a flat with a couple of mormons. They were lovely, kind and unjudgemental.
One was a mormon from birth and the other had converted. The one who had always been a mormon wore the one piece undergarments.

I also have a cousin who converted to become a mormon. Again she is the nicest, kindest most non judgemental person you could meet.

Haggia · 07/09/2024 08:38

Ophy83 · 07/09/2024 07:59

I've been wondering if some posters are confusing Mormon and Amish

Do Amish have coffee?

If so, count me in for that. No car insurance, no need to shave your legs and lovely fresh bakes every day.

BalmyLemons · 07/09/2024 08:40

DreamTheMoors · 07/09/2024 06:10

Do you think allll the Mormons live in Salt Lake City and no place else?
Have I got news for you.

I grew up with a Mormon girl - very sweet. And her family was lovely - very nice people. And wealthy. Her dad owned a big poultry company and her mother was a housewife. She had much older siblings.
I spent the night once and her parents went out to dinner with friends. When they got home, her mother invited them in “for a drink” - I about fainted, and we followed them inside, where they shared a can of Pepsi four ways.
Later on, my friend married a Methodist.
I remember her telling me the one thing she dreamed of was getting married in the Mormon Temple in SLC, which only Mormons can enter. I was disappointed that I couldn’t attend her wedding.
I didn’t attend her wedding to the Methodist, either, but we’re still long-distance friends.

Caffeine free Pepsi I hope!

Missingpotatocroquettes · 07/09/2024 08:41

Haggia · 07/09/2024 08:38

Do Amish have coffee?

If so, count me in for that. No car insurance, no need to shave your legs and lovely fresh bakes every day.

You can have coffee but they don't believe in buttons so you have to pin all your clothes shut so I imagine that might become a pain. Also no divorce, if your husband turns out to be an abusive shit.

Spiderwmn · 07/09/2024 08:44

The religion started in 1830 so quite recent - something about God gifting golden tablets with his words on which strangely went missing.

KimberleyClark · 07/09/2024 08:47

The Osmonds always seemed to be a nice, pretty normal and happy family. Unless I have missed something huge.

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