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Babysitter left the house

152 replies

Piano737 · 05/09/2024 07:56

Au pair living with us, age 20. She babysits approx one night a week, has done so for about six months, kids (4yo twins) have never woken when she has babysat but she knows they do wake occasionally.
Recently she has a new boyfriend who she is spending every waking moment with other than when she has other commitments. We have said he is welcome in the house but not overnight between midnight and 7am - this was our agreement with her before she moved in.
Last night she was babysitting and our front door camera pinged on my phone so I checked the notification and saw that she had walked out of the house and closed the front door. I thought it was odd but thought maybe she had gone out to put something in the bin (right outside front door) so waited a minute or two and then checked to see if she had returned - she hadn't. I panned the security cameras around the front of the house to see if I could see her and could not. They cover the whole of the driveway so probably about 5 metres from the house plus neighbour on one side's driveway.
At this point I panicked that she had forgotten she was babysitting and called her. She said she had gone out to talk to someone and was right outside the house - demonstrably not true as cameras couldn't see her. Boyfriend also drives a distinctive van so I would have seen that on the camera too if it was across the street or next to the house.
I said I was not comfortable with that and could she go back to the house, and reminded her that she could have a guest inside if she wanted to. Three or four mins later she went back inside alone. As soon as we got home around 10.30pm she went out with boyfriend until 4am.
Ironically about an hour after I had asked her to go back inside while babysitting, DD did wake and she needed to settle her which she did successfully - they are very comfortable with her, she does the school run and after school care three days a week.
I have asked to speak to her straight after kids bedtime today as want to understand what was going on in her head to make her leave two four year olds alone out of earshot with no way of her knowing if one of them was crying/looking for an adult in the house. I am feeling really anxious about this and want to check if I am being unreasonable.
YABU - stop stalking her with your cameras, kids are fine.
YANBU - this is crazy behaviour and needs a serious conversation about responsibilities around children.
To add, until boyfriend appeared we were very happy with her. Since boyfriend she has been very distracted and trying to wriggle out of some of her responsibilities to us, but nothing that has made me feel the kids were unsafe until this point.

OP posts:
Aswad · 05/09/2024 07:59

Zero excuse to leave the 4 year olds at home alone. What was she like when you saw her again, remorseful? Or nonchalant?

Isthisexpected · 05/09/2024 08:04

I don't think I'd ever be comfortable trusting her again so would be looking for someone else and installing internal nanny cams so that I could phone her constantly if she were ignoring the children or otherwise neglecting her duties. I would tell her that I felt she breached my trust and until earned back (or she is replaced!) I would tell her about the cameras but not the location.

IamnotSethRogan · 05/09/2024 08:04

Um I duno. Maybe she knows where there's a camera blind spot and stood there to talk to whoever it was for a bit of privacy. I think if she was generally on the property for 5 mins chatting to someone it's hardly the end of the world.

I would absolutely hate being filmed to this degree.

IamnotSethRogan · 05/09/2024 08:04

Isthisexpected · 05/09/2024 08:04

I don't think I'd ever be comfortable trusting her again so would be looking for someone else and installing internal nanny cams so that I could phone her constantly if she were ignoring the children or otherwise neglecting her duties. I would tell her that I felt she breached my trust and until earned back (or she is replaced!) I would tell her about the cameras but not the location.

I imagine she would just leave if you did this.

MelainesLaugh · 05/09/2024 08:06

Not acceptable at all. Especially not closing the front door. She wouldn’t have heard the children if they’d woken up

JustHavinABreak · 05/09/2024 08:08

Definitely not unreasonable. If there had been a fire, she doesn't sound like the type to run inside again.

Even something less dramatic like a fall from the bed. She wouldn't hear the thump and the crying.

It's lovely that she's found someone special, but the kids come first

sunsetsandboardwalks · 05/09/2024 08:10

I find it a bit creepy that you're watching her to such an extent.

If you don't trust her, find someone else.

Maray1967 · 05/09/2024 08:10

I was an au pair years ago. I did one evening’s babysitting each week, and my youngest child was 7. I would not have left the house at all.

Isthisexpected · 05/09/2024 08:11

IamnotSethRogan · 05/09/2024 08:04

I imagine she would just leave if you did this.

Well yes that's why I send I'd be looking for her replacement!

Maray1967 · 05/09/2024 08:11

And I was 18-19 then, so younger than her.

Itsjustmeheretoday · 05/09/2024 08:12

Interestingly she must've been close of she came back within a few minutes so I wonder what she was doing. I think this is the problem with an Au Pair, it's a cheap version of a babysitter who is there to travel so this probably is inevitable especially once a boyfriend is on the scene. Personally I think I would find it hard to trust her, and it doesn't sound like you do anyway if you are checking the cameras whilst you are not home.

DesTeeny · 05/09/2024 08:13

I'd be looking for someone else. If she can't bear to be parted from him for one night whilst she does her job then maybe she shouldn't have said job. I know relationships can be all consuming and intense and amazing, but she has to understand the dangers of leaving the children alone, both for the children and for herself (losing her job).

Edingril · 05/09/2024 08:14

If she did leave it is wrong but I would not work in a house with cameras for neurotic people, dressing the cameras up as security or 'concern' it's still creepy and wrong

StuckOnTheCeiling · 05/09/2024 08:15

It’s absolutely not ok and she needs to know that.

But, this is the difference between an au pair and a nanny. They’re not trained, they’re not experienced, they’ve not been parents themselves, they may not have had younger siblings. Their ability to judge a situation is generally not going to be the same as a professional or a parent.

Blobblobblob · 05/09/2024 08:15

Just sack her. The trust is gone.

Dolliesdisasterousdayout · 05/09/2024 08:16

Could she have had a baby monitor with her or something? Just trying to think why she might have thought it was ok?

Didimum · 05/09/2024 08:17

She’s not responsible enough to have sole charge of two young children. I would sack our nanny immediately if she did this.

FrenchandSaunders · 05/09/2024 08:18

If she was out until 4am what time was she due to look after your kids this mornings?

Morph22010 · 05/09/2024 08:19

Didimum · 05/09/2024 08:17

She’s not responsible enough to have sole charge of two young children. I would sack our nanny immediately if she did this.

She’s not a nanny though and I guess she’s paid a lot less than you pay your nanny. Not saying it is right what she did but where things are done on the cheap you can’t expect the same level of knowledge or skills

Wtafdidido · 05/09/2024 08:21

The trust is broken and you will not feel relaxed leaving her again so time to look elsewhere

GRex · 05/09/2024 08:21

I would sack her immediately, you have no idea now what care she will or will not give the children.

All this stuff about extra cameras is bonkers. Just get a proper nanny and they won't leave children to fend for themselves.

Newmumatlast · 05/09/2024 08:25

Edingril · 05/09/2024 08:14

If she did leave it is wrong but I would not work in a house with cameras for neurotic people, dressing the cameras up as security or 'concern' it's still creepy and wrong

I really don't understand this or other comments people have made about the current cameras (beyond any comments related to suggestions to get more cameras). The current set up does seem to be for security - ring doorbell cameras are really common. A PP said it was creepy watching her - ring doorbell apps notify you when there is movement at the door of the property. OP wasn't monitoring. However, upon seeing that the babysitter had left the house and knowing her children were then inside without childcare how is it unreasonable for her to have then watched to see where babysitter went to make a judgement call about if her kids were now safe?

HarrietHedgehog · 05/09/2024 08:31

She has broken your trust and needs to go. Ignore the comments about your door cam. It’s lucky you have one or you wouldn’t have realised that she’s become unreliable.

Piano737 · 05/09/2024 08:37

Glad that most think I am not being unreasonable! If she had left the door open I would have been less concerned, and if I could see her in the driveway I would also probably not have phoned her. We do not generally stalk her but our front door cameras notify us when someone leaves or enters - if I am not expecting anyone to leave or enter I check the notification, and when I saw she had gone out and shut the door I was understandably very concerned. I will have to think carefully about whether we can keep her on.
She wasn't supposed to have the kids this morning, but there have been other mornings since boyfriend when she has returned home at 4am and had the kids from 7.45 for the school run.
Maybe those saying I should sack her are right.

OP posts:
Didimum · 05/09/2024 08:41

Morph22010 · 05/09/2024 08:19

She’s not a nanny though and I guess she’s paid a lot less than you pay your nanny. Not saying it is right what she did but where things are done on the cheap you can’t expect the same level of knowledge or skills

Au pairs are cheaper because they are live in and because of experience level. Not leaving two 4yr olds in a house alone is at the very base level of appropriate knowledge, even for a teenage babysitter. You can absolutely expect an au pair not to do that.