Feral children

[Overbearingndn]

Several children, have been arrested in connection with the death of an 80 year old dog walker.

What is wrong with children today? I remember the Bulger case and it sent shockwaves around the world, now people just accept that children kill.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/sep/03/five-children-arrested-over-murder-80-year-old-man-in-leicestershire

opening post edited by MNHQ

I totally agree that the parents need to be charged too.

The parents of a school shooter in America were prosecuted, the same should apply here.

I do agree that this isn't gentle parenting. Done badly that produces brats, sure, but not killers.

This is the feral dregs breeding but not doing what any sane normal person would recognise as parenting.

Well obviously that is not going to happen.

I’m not sure that parents should be charged with murder but there ought to be some sort ‘allowing a murder to happen’ crime

HAHAHA.

You've never worked in a school with 95% Asian students have you?

We don't know yet. Sharon Carr is still in prison way beyond her recommended tariff.

I suppose because it seems to be becoming less anomalous. But it would make more sense to do that if it was currently set at, say, 13, rather than 10. I doubt it would be moved any lower. Regardless of that, it's obviously exceedingly shocking.

A sort of equivalent of corporate manslaughter?

And castration of course. You forgot to mention.

But why would this case prompt a reassessment given the suspects youngest ages are 12?

Shame on the parent/parents.

I am sick of people with two brain cells getting together with no marks and having every benefit thrown at them because after all they are vulnerable etc etc. They then have these feral kids who are allowed to do what they like with no consequences and this happens. Shame on us for supporting this sort of upbringing.

Yeah something like that

Disgusting I hope they can be charged as adults. This is so sick. This poor poor man.

I know primary school teachers who have said that parents now think it is entirely the teacher's job to stop their child hitting or swearing; who think it is the teacher's job to toilet-train their child or teach them how to use a knife and fork. I even know teachers who have said there are parents who expect them to get their child washed and dressed in the morning. These parents are a deadly combination of feckless and of a mindset that thinks it bad to make your child do anything.

Wtf have I just read. That poor poor man.

I'm sure there are probably some statistics that show that children brought up being abused by violent parents are more likely to be violent themselves.
Or do you plan on beating your children?

Oh I agree with you @Jillybloop393

Agreed.

I suspect the narrative will change to one of the girls being coerced by the boys or were influenced by them or something like that.

Agreed.

@vivainsomnia Of course not. On MN, it's always about male violence and women being victims.

The reality is that young and female crime is on the increase. We really need to focus on violence as a whole, not just male violence on female.

Agreed.

I think video games also contribute to desensitising young people to violence. Young boys particularly from primary school age upwards, allowed to play games which are violent, which normalises for them knife crime, gun crime etc. Children from all social classes are often allowed to have access to games specified for over 18’s. It’s a virtual world that very young children cannot comprehend or differentiate from real life. I actually called at the house of a friend recently where her ds at the age of 11 was playing on Grand Theft Auto. This is a game littered with violent random acts - beating people up, shooting people. I was absolutely shocked, but was told ‘well, all his friends play these games, and it’s not real you know’. Some children might play them and grow up unscathed, but others whose brains are wired differently just won’t.

Why are people assuming that the parents of these children are on benefits?

It’s a shocking case and I haven’t RTFT but the children have been arrested not charged.
If they are charged, unless they plead guilty, a jury will decide if they killed the elderly man.
Innocent until proven guilty is the way the law works in this country, and some of the comments on here which are specifically about this case rather than feral kids in general are contempt of court.

I'm not saying it would (I don't know how these things work), but I suppose my thinking is that if it becomes more commonplace for 12-year-olds to be involved in a murder I would guess that it might then also become more likely for 11-year-olds to be involved, then 10-year-olds, etc. Just looking at it as a trend (in the mathematical sense).

I actually called at the house of a friend recently where her ds at the age of 11 was playing on Grand Theft Auto

Thst is such shit parenting. There are bits where you can watch strippers and then bludgeon them to death.

Fuck knows what gawping at a screen from infancy and then playing violent games before you're even a teen does to developing brains. Nothing good. Hideous real-time mass experiment.

The area where this particular crime took place it is very unlikely the perpetrators were middle class

My parents neighbours house is next to a jitty where kids congregated.

Apologies for the derail, but: Thanks for the vocabulary enhancement!