Feral children

[Overbearingndn]

Several children, have been arrested in connection with the death of an 80 year old dog walker.

What is wrong with children today? I remember the Bulger case and it sent shockwaves around the world, now people just accept that children kill.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/sep/03/five-children-arrested-over-murder-80-year-old-man-in-leicestershire

opening post edited by MNHQ

People who live their lives who are poor, overcrowded, are unemployed, have poor school attendance, may have poor MH or drug use but who DONT commit anti social behaviour or crime or bother their neighbours are not the ones who are being judged harshly.

I beg to differ. Throughout the thread, sweeping and bigoted statements have been made about the poor, people on benefits, single parent mothers and other people. There has been talk of sterilising people and sniffy remarks about human rights.

Domestic abuse and sexual assault come from every demographic. There are an awful amount of white collar drug addicts, coke is very popular.

A few years ago i was slated on here for daring to suggest that there are certain women in this country that make a career out of being a single parent. I know more than a few who went out of their way to be a single mum because they wanted the flat and the money. Every single one of them found another wayward bloke to have another baby with once the DHSS said it was time to find a job fast forward another few years and the cycle was repeated. Here we are two decades later and their eldest kids are having kids and their youngest ones are drug addled violent oiks that kick old men to death. We as a society make excuses for every badly behaved child and back every womans right to have a child, well we have got the society we supported.

There are millions of people in the country who do lots of things. How are you going to stop women from having children? Is this thread back to sterilisation again? It's getting very tedious.

Criminals come from every demographic.

The majority of criminals come from particular demographics

DV and SA is more likely from particular demographics with similar factors

There is lots of white collar coke use. That is different to there being a vast majority of middle class addicts

People can be drug users but not drug addicts.

Yes criminals do come from every demographic, we agree.

There are a lot of middle class alcoholics and coke heads.

DV and SA is more likely from particular demographics with similar factors

Do you have evidence to back that up, I'd be very interested. Many thanks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Angela_Wrightson

An unpleasant couple for you here.

@pubsafety doesn't change the fact it's much rarer for girls to do this kind of thing and if there are boys in a group they are far more likely to be the perpetrator/s than the girls are. As seems to be the case in Leicester since they've only charged the 14 year old boy.

Having children who are usually poorly behaved because of their upbringing, yet are then given money by the government for being ‘ND’
Even if all these children are ND, why do the parents need a carers allowance and PIP? What’s the difference between a carer and a parent.
The one without the statemented child accepts it was their choice to have a child and accepts the financial burden, where the one that is statemented gets paid thousands of pounds because apparently it costs more to parent a child with a statement?

A carer gets around £80 a week and can't work because they have to care for their child, 24/7.

PIP is in order to pay for equipment or other items necessary for the child. For example a ND child may only be able to eat certain food or wear certain clothes.

The middle class coke snorters are ruining their own spectrums - we don't care - they don't mug us, beat our grandads to death, steal from us, vandalise our property.

The scum that hang around the streets and public places are the ones that need dealing with harshly and their parents, if they know who their dad is.
You don't get to kill an 80 year old man and live a cushy life.
The 14 year old will meet worse than himself on the inside.

I don’t get it either.

I mean I do - when I read threads where parents have a 5 year old who can’t speak, has no danger awareness and trashes the house, I have full empathy and think they absolutely deserve benefits to fix the damage and pursue private speech therapy.

But in other cases - completely verbal children with what you’d call a few fairly mild difficulties like not liking certain clothes - well, you have to buy clothes for children anyway, so I don’t see the difference. Same with food.

There’s definitely a scale and I feel PIP etc is no longer meeting its original purpose, it just seems to be a ‘nice to have’ for people with regular if unusual expenses. Pretty much everyone I know has an unusual expense - very few people don’t have a mild health condition, or a food intolerance, or a need for something most people don’t have. If they all claimed benefits for that.. well, they literally couldn’t as they wouldn’t be able to make the payments.

I also find it unusual that so many families claim DLA for more than one child. I would’ve thought that an unusual occurrence but it seems very common now.

The middle class coke snorters are ruining their own spectrums - we don't care - they don't mug us, beat our grandads to death, steal from us, vandalise our property.

Unless they're producing coke themselves, they're buying it from drug dealers and perpetuating an industry rife in exploitation and violence.

PP wasn’t saying it’s a moral thing to do.

And when these children go to school the parent still can’t work? Child still requires £800 a month despite being at school wearing a school uniform?

Youre right, most children are fussy about something. Doesn’t mean to say they should get benefits to pay for it.

PIP for those severely disabled children that require adaptions at home etc, totally agree with. Those who has a child with a short attention span/special interest/doesn’t like loud noises etc - then it should be on a voucher basis for headphones/coping strategies but giving a parent hundreds of pounds a month so they don’t have to go to work doesn’t sit right with me

Hopefully PIP will be reviewed next year and this silliness will all stop.

Drugs are responsible for a lot of violence in society. We have a huge problem with gangs, knife crime and county lines in this country which revolves around drugs. You're contributing towards it if you're buying drugs.

The world is corrupt.
Society is corrupt.
People don't deal drugs without the protection of powerful entities.

If someone smuggles coke up their own crack then that isn't what gets our grandads killed, so I don't care.
Some useless life hanging around a park, racially abusing old men and killing him - that I do care about.

Yes, in the same way you contribute to terrifying ‘industries’ if you buy avocados, diamonds, mobile phones or gold.

If the government really cared they'd do something about it.
Anyway, some of us have suggested a proposal. Whoever wants drugs let them have it - then put them out of sight from the rest of us in a walled town.

It's suddenly just something inevitable when it's middle class people doing it, I note. A natural consequence. Different story when it's the 'underbelly'.

Nobody has said it’s inevitable. Your posts are responding to comments that aren’t even real. It’s quite funny

You're easily amused. Which is nice.

Underbelly can snort coke too until their noses drop off - we don't care.
But they can't rob, beat and terrify people in public and their own homes.
They can do what the middle class addicts are doing, get a job and pay for their own drugs.
Do it privately.
Let the affects wear off in private.

Are we any nearer providing links to the posts demanding that benefits fund all sorts of luxuries?

Buying drugs perpetuates violence and crime. The drugs don't come from nowhere, they involve trafficking, gangs, exploitation and often children. Gangs carry knives and guns and are a menace to society. Children get caught up in county lines.

There's no evidence for anything, merely anecdotes and bigotry.