Feral children

[Overbearingndn]

Several children, have been arrested in connection with the death of an 80 year old dog walker.

What is wrong with children today? I remember the Bulger case and it sent shockwaves around the world, now people just accept that children kill.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/sep/03/five-children-arrested-over-murder-80-year-old-man-in-leicestershire

opening post edited by MNHQ

Really? Do you live in the real world?

A man has been murdered by by all means continue your sniping and stereotyping, extremely helpful.

And you believe your contribution is helpful? In what way exactly?

Yes indeed, the killers of Yusuf Mackie were quite affluent and at private school. Their wealth didn't stop them turning into monsters, it did seem to go a long way in lessening their sentences though.

@PyongyangKipperbang DS2 by 14 was physically bigger and stronger than me. If he was so inclined to play truant or leave the house and do stuff like this, I couldnt stop him.

This is why it bloody annoys me when parents, but especially single mothers get taken to court because her 6 foot, 12 stone,15 year old son wont go to school and she is in trouble for not getting him there. How on earth can she reasonably be expected to do that?

You have the most bizarre perspective on this. First of all, a 6 foot 15 year would be a tiny percentage of teenage boys, probably 3% or less of all boys. Second, what's physical strength got to do with anything? My mum is tiny and that never stopped her from putting her foot down or telling me what to do. Your son's size has absolutely no relevance to anything, and it just sounds like a really sad excuse for not being a proper parent.

According to Sky News, 4 of the children have now been released without charge. One 14 year old still in custody.

It's more helpful than speculation and stereotyping, yes. Or do you think that people should just be free to run their mouths about poor people on benefits, single parents, those with tattooes, white people etc without being challenged.

My post was deleted and I’m not sure why. I feel I raised perfectly reasonable points.
I’m assuming someone didn’t like what I had to say about today’s parenting.

The truth will come out soon. It was probably recorded on Snapchat.

I smiled when I saw your first post saying jitty. I grew up near Derby, and I've not heard it since I left the area at 18. Fifty years ago! The jitty near my house was a major feature of my childhood!

@shuggles
leave it out, how disingenuous can you POSSIBLY get!! 🙄

@soupfiend I'm only on page 1 and I agree.

We have interaction with young people and I Wonder how shielded we are from real life.
Many "children" are not raised or have anything any regular people would even begin to imagine as family or home life.

Oh my god, I clicked on this thread expecting a rant about children being allowed to run wild in public or something like that.

Absolutely horrified, that poor man must've been terrified.

Its not really rocket science though is it to understand what kind of childhoods these kids will have had.

There has been speculation by neighbours if it was racist and I think another Asian man was assaulted or racially harassed very recently in the same area. Someone else said it wasn’t the first time he’s been bothered by teens - on another occasion they threw stones.

It’s horrific I agree but similar thing happens in my town about 18 years ago. I was coming back from uni for the holidays and the night after I arrived there were policemen going door to door as an older man up the road about 65 years old i think, had been killed by some teens coming out the local pub . There wasn’t much media coverage. I wouldn’t even have known had the police not came to my door. It just makes you think how the media can have a big impact on how we perceive crime trends.

Would be interesting to look at stats as it does feel things are getting worse but I’m not sure if that’s accurate.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clynp35n353o it's crazy what's going on out there.

You need a licence to own a dog but not a child....

Yep that's how kids used to be parented. A big problem is parents becoming so defensive of their kids these days and believing they can do no wrong. That didn't used to happen where parents automatically took their kids side and made everyone else into the villains. But that's where we're at now. But they always want society to pitch in and help and "it takes a village" with everything else.

There were people on this thread calling for all of them to be named. 🙄

Has any person on this thread heard of contempt of court or prejudicial content?
Suggest you all google it before the trial of these children becomes unsafe and they are unable to face justice

Yes. But the other day posters there was a huge argument over how innocent 12-13 years old are. So I won't be surprised if there are posters coming to excuse these kids.

So it’s as I guessed. One murderer and the others were unfortunately there. How much do you want to bet the culprit is male?

Just reading the article from The Mirror...it's utterly heartbreaking. He had Osteoparosis and they broke his neck, leaving him screaming in pain. He was 50 yards from his home.

Then reading about the antisocial behaviour...It could have been written about my hometown recently - we've had lots of the same issues, though not racially motivated.

This is outing but I don't care. I'm from Lytham. It's not cheap to live here and there aren't many working class kids nor kids in the care system in Lytham itself. One of the schools, Lytham St Annes High, has some children from rougher areas, and some in the care system brought here from other areas of the UK but it's certainly not the "tattooed, different fathers, living on benefits" demographic some people above are mentioning. The other state senior school is a "good" Catholic school and the other is a large private school.

Our louts are firmly middle class. Every other day there's something on our street's FB pages about children on roofs throwing rocks, beating younger kids and filming it, vandalism, mugging - always, "if anyone knows these little brats in North Face/Canada Goose/Moncler jackets then tell them to stop x" usually with CCTV/Ring doorbell footage. Always white, "naice' looking kids whose parents have no idea what they are up to. Can't imagine for a second they'd do anything wrong. Benign neglect.

Recently a beautiful young girl in the town took her own life as a result of horrific, relentless bullying (by another girl, mainly) and nothing was done by the police to hold her bullies accountable, despite evidence. A couple of months ago there was a horrible video of a young girl in nearby St Annes being hounded whilst walking down the street and physically attacked by a slightly older teenage girl and boy (14/15). Police attended school the next day but again, no charges brought.

I agree we are at the point now where as well as the children facing criminal records, parents should be also be prosecuted. Even the naice middle class ones who buy their kids £1k coats and let them have free range to "explore" over the summer. Some of them are probably even mumsnetters, shock horror.

Yup. I think I even read a pp calling for them to be put down!