To be concerned at the number of people lying to get weight loss jabs?

[sahah]

Not to mention the people buying the unlicensed stuff off of the streets?

I’ve seen it so much lately, this surely can’t end well.

why? why does it bother you? it doesn't affect you, so why do you even care?

mind your own business

What do you mean by can't end well?
What dangers do you think there are?

How do you know how many people are lying to get them and why does it bother you so much?

I completely agree, it's concerning.

I agree and the only two people I know getting them ranted so much about the Covid vaccines and how people don't know what they are putting into their body.

No issue with anyone using the with medical support but they easy with some people will use the unlicensed stuff is baffling.

I see it everyday here, and people are ending up in the hospitals. One girl, a teenager who was already a healthy weight to start with when she started taking it, nearly died. It’s a serious drug that has to be properly monitored. I’m not sure why something has to directly affect me for me to be concerned about it.

‘An A&E doctor has told C+D that on “every” recent shift, a patient who should not be on weight loss drugs has presented with complications after illicitly obtaining Wegovy. ’
(C+D is a site for healthcare professionals - pharmacy related).

The GPhC are aware of the existence of issues and will take action against any regulated providers who they consider are not doing sufficient due diligence. I think that things like video consultations might eventually be necessary if there are too many cases of people faking photos and lying about their details.

People who take drugs obtained from unregulated sites could be taking anything. In some cases it was insulin that was provided instead of semaglutide for example. It's beyond stupid to buy and take drugs from an unknown and unregulated source.

What is the issue that concerns you? I mean so long as people are getting it prescribed rather than buying it from God knows where.

It concerns me when they are lying to get it and then end up in a&e taking up beds and resources.

The teenage girl I mentioned above got hers from lying to Boots.

The unlicensed stuff is just wild to me, injecting themselves with god knows what.

Why the hostility to OP, from you and others? Is it really that weird to be concerned about people engaging in risky behaviour that could 1) make them seriously unwell 2) encourage others to do the same and 3) take up medical resources unnecessarily?

Surprisingly people aren’t too chipper about people on heroin or having drug overdoses either. Funny that.

Are you taking it then? Presume so from your hostile response

It's more than lying though, you'd need to provide someone else's current dated photos and possibly even someone else's ID.

There was a thread earlier that was discussing what happens when people stop taking the meds. The bottom line is, they get their appetite back and old habits will return. As providers will stop prescribing meds when people get to a certain weight, I'd imagine there's even more scope there for people to try and keep getting the drugs by being dishonest about their weight loss.

I completely understand why people want to take these medications, but it does feel
Like a medical scandal in the making.

I think a lot of this faux concern is envy-related.

I'm someone who has taken it for a while, first because I was obese, but having reached my target weight and come off it, weight did start to creep back on, so I decided to take it occasionally to try to maintain my new weight, so every couple of months or so, and yes, I have to lie about my weight to get it, but I see it as a long-term investment in my health. I exercise six days a week and try to watch what I eat, but without it it's more difficult.

I think there should be some sort of way to take it legitimately, without having to lie, at low levels to maintain your weight once you've reached your target.

The only medical scandal is that the NHS prescribes crappy CBT to people who desperately need proper help with their weight and who go on to have life changing weight loss on these new medications.

CBT is completely useless in my opinion but hey, saves the NHS a buck or two i guess.

I think a lot of this faux concern is envy-related.

Envy of what?

There was a feature on woman's hour about this recently. I think talking to a journalist who had looked into it - and one woman she'd spoken to was getting it from some guy who brought it round in his car, and apparently delivered to a few of her friends as well. I think the reason was the increased scrutiny of online prescribers.

That's nothing to be envious about, and it's not beyond belief that people would find it concerning. I know that's different to people lying to get it, but I don't see why that would spark envy either tbh.

Lots of people have various concerns around online prescribing, whether it's to do with the continuation of abortion pills by post, or whether it's weight loss injections. I'm sure some people lie about having had their blood pressure checked when they order the contraceptive pill online - that is also concerning.

The unlicensed stuff is one thing and the lying to get the injection from a reputable company is a different thing. Which one are you concerned about?

I doubt those who get theirs from places like Boots, etc (even through lying) would end up in hospital because they were injecting glucose or something else instead of semaglutide.

The unlicensed ones are unsafe.

The lying to get to from reputable places is a grey area. Some people are desperate and soon it would become as accessible as botox, etc and the lying will stop.

I doubt those who get theirs from places like Boots, etc (even through lying) would end up in hospital because they were injecting glucose or something else instead of semaglutide.

“A “young girl” had to be treated in A&E after presenting with life threatening symptoms after taking weight loss drug Wegovy obtained through Boots Online Doctor, an A&E doctor told C+D this week”

www.chemistanddruggist.co.uk/CD138263/It-terrifies-me-Girl-landed-in-AE-after-buying-Wegovy-from-Boots

I think a lot of this faux concern is envy-related.

Envy of what exactly?

What I mean is that Boots wouldn't be selling fake drugs. Yes there are people who react to the actual drugs due to other health issues or their body system simply don't agree with the drug.

Why would you be concerned about adults using medication, whether they meet the criteria for a prescription or not? Plenty of adults abuse other prescription medications and illegal drugs, are you concerned about all of them as well?

I think a lot of this faux concern is envy-related.

Why do you think this? That’s quite a strange reaction.

It’s great that it is helping to tackle obesity when used appropriately but that isn’t what op posted about.

@sahah if what this "young girl" told the A&E doctors is truthful. She may have lied to them about where she got it from. By "young girl" I assume they mean an 18 year old or older. So a young woman in actuality. Who knows what she did. She might have injected all 4 doses at once, or once a day instead of once week. Once people are prepared to lie and deceive to get what they want then any other behaviour is possible.

She obviously managed to find someone to create dated photos for her, or did some decent photoshopping. You can't just upload any old online photo of an obese woman.