To be concerned at the number of people lying to get weight loss jabs?

[sahah]

Not to mention the people buying the unlicensed stuff off of the streets?

I’ve seen it so much lately, this surely can’t end well.

@SilenceInside You do you hun.

We do t have to give photos or any evidence here from an online clinic I use in Australia. It does surprise me that they just take my word for my weight each fortnight. I think people take drugs of all sorts they shouldn’t every day though and this is no different unfortunately.

@HeySummerWhereAreYou that poster is simply wrong about how these drugs work. If you want to discuss them, accuracy is surely important?

The drug's users have even been sharing ''codes'' on MN - presumably for money off.

The dodgy pharmaceutical manufacturers are clearly offering incentives to push their wares.

I don't see what there is for individuals to be concerned about. If you don't want or need the drug then there's no issue for you personally. If you do want/need the drug and you can't get it prescribed then you will find another dealer to give it to you. Some of those are regulated and some might not be. It's up to individuals to do their own due diligence.

I think the faux concern (and it is) grates but if randoms want to wring their hands and post on chatboards about it it they can crack on. What's to 'debate' exactly? It's the pharmaceutical/medical industry that needs to be on top of this if they have concern for the public who use these drugs.

@ThePure
Indeed
I've spent all my adult life making sure I don't become overweight. I don't care about the weight loss part but it strikes me a very wrong that I will not get the apparent extra benefits of these drugs as I am not overweight.

I do think there should be tighter controls on it as it is a drug and there’s teenage girls getting their hands on it at a time when there’s also social media pressure and an increase of disordered eating

The other thing that concerns me as a healthcare professional, is the amount of diabetic patients that aren’t able to get their prescription filled due to shortage of supply due to all the demand for its weight loss in the general population. I know those overweight are at risk of multiple co-morbidities, diabetes included. However it’s my general opinion, unpopular or not, that diabetics prescriptions should be prioritised to manage their diabetes due to the risks to them

Turns out it clearly IS an envy thing. How about being happy that people who have struggled with obesity (and people can become obese for various reasons) are able to lose weight when everything else has failed? And take less of those hospital beds someone upthread was moaning about. This is great news at both individual AND societal level. Pitiful that some people can be so envious and spiteful.

Where are you getting this info from op?

Amazing power you have there, to be able to deduce whether a complete stranger’s concern is ‘faux’ or not with such certainty.

Well a really quick google shows that semaglutide is a cancer risk.

IMPORTANT WARNING:
Semaglutide injection may increase the risk that you will develop tumors of the thyroid gland, including medullary thyroid carcinoma (MTC; a type of thyroid cancer). Laboratory animals who were given semaglutide developed tumors, but it is not known if this medication increases the risk of tumors in humans. Tell your doctor if you or anyone in your family has or has ever had MTC or Multiple Endocrine Neoplasia syndrome type 2 (MEN 2; condition that causes tumors in more than one gland in the body). If so, your doctor will probably tell you not to use semaglutide injection. If you experience any of the following symptoms, call your doctor immediately: a lump or swelling in the neck; hoarseness; difficulty swallowing; or shortness of breath.
Keep all appointments with your doctor and the laboratory. Your doctor may order certain tests to check your body's response to semaglutide injection.
Your doctor or pharmacist will give you the manufacturer's patient information sheet (Medication Guide) when you begin treatment with semaglutide injection and each time you refill your prescription. Read the information carefully and ask your doctor or pharmacist if you have any questions. You can also visit the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) website (https://www.fda.gov/Drugs/DrugSafety/ucm085729.htm) or the manufacturer's website to obtain the Medication Guide.
Talk to your doctor about the risks of using semaglutide injection.

sahah, Thanks, it's a skill borne of many years of listening to/reading heaps of meaningless drivel.

That was one person. You can’t then go on to conclude that anyone who has an issue with illegally procured medication is envious? I can go and get it myself as well if I want. How is that envy.

Well of course it's more difficult to maintain weight without it.
This is why it's so problematic. It messes with metabolism and doesn't actually establish healthy habits.

The most recent (2024) research has shown absolutely no increase in thyroid cancers or any other cancers for this taking semaglutide long term.

Eg www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC11050669/

www.bmj.com/content/385/bmj-2023-078225

If cleared through trials for broader use, I support that 💯. I do not support the narrative it’s 💯 safe as NO medication is and proper medical supervision needs to be in place.

What’s dangerous is this perpetuation you’re entitled and should get it by any means. It’s not up to the individual to do their ‘due diligence’ on illegal drugs. Hilarious comment 😂

It's up to any individual what drugs they lob into their mouths/snort up their noses. If the drugs are illegal and/or untested/or just not prescribed for you personally then their own due diligence is about all there is.

Agree with this. So much ignorance about how these injections actually work. They do not magically melt away your fat (if only...). Instead they mute the food noise in your head and mute some of your appetite - this helps you to make healthier food choices and eat smaller portions.

I am one of the 'grey users' with a BMI of 29. I get mine from a fully accredited online pharmacy which I researched extensively. My GP now knows I've started the injections and made an interesting point that my taking Tamoxifen has likely impacted my ability to easily lose weight.

It's not fair that fat people can become thin

I'm considering buying a weight loss injection treatment, but am most definitely 3 stone overweight. What lies are they telling to the pharmacies supplying the meds, OP?

Clearly if people are lying to get drugs which shouldn't be prescribed to them, that isn't great. If they're buying through illegal channels that's worse as they don't know they're getting the legitimate drugs

I do get why people are doing it though. People generally want to be thinner. And the discourse around weight coming from the media and the medical community for decades now seems to me to be a big part of the reason why people feel that way. It's honestly a bit strange that people are now all dismayed like "wonder why they'd resort to drugs to help them be thinner 🤔 "?

So I see both sides really.

Fwiw, my dsis took these (she's a doctor). She ordered them online I believe. She didn't lose noticeable weight and her eating habits have just gone straight back to how they were before...so I don't think they work well for everyone.

The way these drugs have been marketed is a bit iffy to me as well. Someone, somewhere is making a fuck tonne of money

I’m on Mounjaro, legitimately and through a trusted pharmacy who have been very thorough. I worry that it will it will cause a serious clamp down on them making it really hard to obtain. It’s been life changing for me as I’m perimenopausal and have endo
so regular diets were not working.

I have lost 2st and my pain relief is the main benefit!

That’s the thing. When people break the rules, the ones who follow them often end up paying the price. I really don’t know what’s going to happen with this but it’s a legitimate concern to have.

The only way you can lose weight on wegovy and mounjaro os by eating less than you burn? Same as amy other diet.How is it 'cheating ?

As time goes by and our understanding of these drugs go and tge price comes down, it will likely be approved for long term maintenance