To be concerned at the number of people lying to get weight loss jabs?

[sahah]

Not to mention the people buying the unlicensed stuff off of the streets?

I’ve seen it so much lately, this surely can’t end well.

I do worry about some of the people who post on the groups saying they have hit the target and the before photo shows that they were slim to begin with. It’s a blatant disregard to the medical professional they have lied to.

I have used weight loss drugs. it worked very well for me. I've stopped as i'm a healthy weight and so far havent gained.

I think it is crazy that these medications aren't being utilised by the NHS. I think that is a scandal in itself having used them and successfully lost weight on them. People will buy unlicensed crap due to not being able to access it via the NHS.

I would not have been able to lie and obtain through the suppliers I had used. I had to send pictures of ID and photos which included my face, so they knew it was me.

It’s de rigeur on here to take jabs rather than control calories.

it’s depressing. YANBU

The injections are to help you control calories. That's what they do. They don't magically melt the fat away whilst you eat cake.

@Manyshelves You could say that about anti depressants and self affirmations in the mirror each morning. 😂

If people are lying about their weight or using fake photos then surely they could change it to be appt face to face only and weigh them?

I don't understand what your problem is. I'm more concerned about county lines and vapes than weight loss jabs where people are actively trying to lose weight and as a last resort scrimping and saving to improve their livelihoods with weight loss injections. Get a grip.

Johann hari has a great book on this with extensive research

You mean a book with definitive inaccuracies and outdated claims written by a serial plagiarist and fabricator. Hmm, not sure I'd consider that a great book.

I take it you don't know all that much about Johann Hari?

The only way you can lose weight on . MJ is by controlling calories, ya muppet! Maybe better not to embarrassed yourself posting about things you don't understand

Have you ever been part of a Slimming World or Weight Watchers group? There are always people there who are slim with a normal BMI who want to lose weight. And I'm not talking about the people who were once obese and are now slim. Weight loss drugs are not the issue. The real problems are social pressure, poor mental health, and the eating disorders that result. People who suffer from this are the ones who abuse these drugs. It is not the drugs that are hurting people.

Why doesn't it bother you? Would you be happy if you found out your teenager was taking this? What an attitude!

You can eat what you like on the drugs if it works like you say it does.

Because it turns your mind into that of a thin person who 'eats what they like and never gains weight' but if you look at what they eat its small portions of mostly healthy food and little of the junk that makes people gain weight, because that's what they like to eat.

Plus if you don't get into the habit and cycle of addiction to sugar and UPFs it's a lot easier to not eat them regularly.

I suppose with Ozempic etc the idea would then be to carry on with the good habits you've learned when you've lost weight and not go back to the unhealthy eating habits that made you gain weight in the first place, just like every weight loss programme.

But the trouble is that we live in an obesogenic environment where its a lot more effort and probably more expensive to eat well than it is to eat badly especially if you want to eat while out and about.

You clearly have too much time on your hands op. Not understanding why it is concerning to you really? Feel like this is just another weight loss injection bashing goady post to wind up people. If it's truly worrying you perhaps see your GP about getting some help.

Slimming world is what people should be more concerned about. It's like an obesity factory disguised as helping. Disordered ways of describing foods and wierd rules about mashing things etc. You come out of there having eaten a ton of carbs, unhealthy levels of sweeteners and chemicals. Ultra processed rubbish but as long as it has no fat you're OK. No don't eat that beautiful healthy avocado it's syns! Have a cake made from processed chemical sweeteners and yogurt instead. Make your own haribo sweets from processed jelly and crap processed muller light. Here have some crisps made from pasta sheets. And Fry light.... Don't get me started on that plastic chemical liquid that they're touting. It's like a cult that makes you fatter than you started. Rant over.

Although I don't spend time worrying about people I don't know, I am also concerned about a friend who is now very thin and frail and still taking Wegovy. It's only human nature to worry and that doesn't mean I think wegovy etc are bad in themselves. They are clearly amazingly helpful for people who meed to lose weight for medical reasons. Refusing to believe that people aren't lying to get it for vanity reasons is naive.

Currently on the 5:2 diet, and going for sturdy/fast 2-3 mile walks, five or six days a week. I have lost 12 pounds in 6 weeks. BY EATING LESS AND EXERCISING MORE. I know radical right?! 😆 Hell would freeze over before I would have surgery - or injections to lose weight. I can't believe people do it ... It's batshi

I am pleased that works for you. But do you not think fat people have TRIED THAT?! I have done that. It made zero difference. Unless I eat less than 800 calories a day until the end of my life, then I will be fat. Maybe if people could understand that not every body is the same and what makes one person lose weight isn’t the same as another it would help. My friend lost weight by not eating 3 chocolate bars a week. Lovely for her. That would make literally zero difference to me.

One of the MOST annoying things people do is assume that in fact everyone is the same, fat people are stupid and should just walk up the stairs instead of taking the lift etc and that will help. For some yes it will. But in the same way some people are naturally thin and can eat like a horse (and no one minds them do they), some people are naturally fat and their body is different. Lots of people are in between and do what you are doing but not everyone. So yes we do have to resort to “batshit” things and deal with ignorant people.

I am going to admit that I would be amazed if someone did the 5.2 properly and walked 3 miles a day and still didn't lose any weight.

It is possible to think that and also not have any issue with people using wegovy if it makes it easier for them.

This thread is derailing.

OP wasn’t talking generally about weight loss injections. She was talking about people lying to get them.

And FFS can people stop with the “wHaT’s It To YoU ThOOoooo?!🤪” nonsense. It’s a fucking discussion website and the OP wants to discuss it. Don’t be a patronising twat. If you don’t like the discussion, kindly eff off.

I think using injections is as valid as any other diet. I did think the whole point was to get you to a place you could maintain. @mozempic and other users - is it your plan to remain on this forever? (This is not a loaded Q, I know nothing about these drugs at all.)

Does anyone have any medical studies they can cite regarding long term issues? @sahah do you know what caused the hospitalisation of the young girl? I’m assuming (as a non medical professional) that given diabetics remain on similar meds long term the impact on health generally from the medication alone is well studied. But perhaps there’s a form of drug-supported ED like anorexia that can be a result from taking it when you shouldn’t?

I've decided against injections, but have done a lot of research and my adult DD (38) is on Mounjaro. A maintenance dose can be prescribed, they don't have the same cut off weight if your weight loss has been via injections.
As for wasting resources, sit in A&E and see how the shit head behaviour of young men is filling the beds and police cells. It's always women's behaviour that's pounced on.
Unregulated anything is an issue, drugs and things like botox/lip fillers etc.

@BigComfyTracksuit there's an article on it. When you are prescribed them properly you are warned about side effects and when to seek medical help, also alcohol etc.
www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-67414203.amp

Lying to get it is bad news all round. Its like the aesthetic practitioners who just keep doing procedures on us and make us look like Madonna (RIP Madonna's face)

money talks common sense is ignored

so she can't stop, and now it's the turn of the weight loss injections. We won't stop and we will all look like Sharon osbourne or Madonna 😢

Public health concerns are everyone's concerns.

Do you only ever think about things that directly impact yourself? How odd!

Firstly, it will potentially affect everyone (via the NHS burden) if folk end up suffering ill effects of overuse/wrong use, or even worse taking what they think is one drug but it actually something else.
Secondly, discussions like this may make someone think twice about whether it's actually a good idea to lie regarding medical situations.
@sahah it worries me too. These drugs are an aid, not a magic cure, and lifestyle changes really need to be made alongside.